Why arent Releasable poles straps the standard?

[Dee Hubbs]

You must be talking about this clip.

https://youtu.be/9d96xmVH91I?t=104
blocking pole plant.
Chute is 45 degrees you go much more across the hill than something more mellow.

Your fucking protractor must be broken? Did you pass grade 5 math? 45 degrees?

This "hip dragging turn" on a 12 degree run was also claimed to be 45 degrees.
You have to stop throwing "45 degrees" out there.

OR are you confused with SLOPE DEGREE vs SLOPE PERCENTAGE?

How do you convert degrees to percent?
To convert, use this angle degrees to percent of slope formula:
Percentage = [ Tan ( Degrees ) ] x 100
Example: An angle of 22.23 degrees would be:
Percentage of Slope = [ Tan ( 22.23 ) ] x 100Results:
An angle of 24.23 degrees converts to:
45.00 Percent of a Slope

[Bushwacka]

Your fucking protractor must be broken? Did you pass grade 5 math? 45 degrees?

This "hip dragging turn" on a 12 degree run was also claimed to be 45 degrees.
You have to stop throwing "45 degrees" out there.

OR are you confused with SLOPE DEGREE vs SLOPE PERCENTAGE?

How do you convert degrees to percent?
To convert, use this angle degrees to percent of slope formula:
Percentage = [ Tan ( Degrees ) ] x 100
Example: An angle of 22.23 degrees would be:
Percentage of Slope = [ Tan ( 22.23 ) ] x 100Results:
An angle of 24.23 degrees converts to:
45.00 Percent of a Slope

I never claimed that to be 45 degrees its 15 degrees at best.

Go back and read the thread.

I love how you guys keeping this up to the top for me.

[Dee Hubbs]

You must be talking about this clip.
https://youtu.be/9d96xmVH91I?t=104
blocking pole plant. Chute is 45 degrees you go much more across the hill than something more mellow.
it looks behind from the behind view for sure. The first one I am using the pole to block my rotation and get the first turn to happen. This will help get a turn started in a very difficult situation.
Modern skiing is pole touching close to the our boots than towards our tips. Blocking pole touches even further behind especially on steeper slopes. More gentle pole touches are just slightly ahead of the boot out to the side.

You're calling this "chute" 45 degrees right?

[glademaster]

Serious question: I've heard all the " uh you can't swim in an avie argument", but I've never seen a victim with poles attached to them. (maybe there are). And I've heard of few people who were in such a mellow avie that they actually tried to swim. Usually it's more like "I ragdolled and hung on for dear life". And if the avie releases my skis (which are way more of an anchor pulling you down) , it certainly "releases" my poles. I've never had them on me when I crashed hard. And how do you destroy your shoulder with them In the trees? I mean for the pole to get stuck and not destroy the basket, or just pull you out of the strap you'd have to be really unlucky?
Having said that, I must admit my straps are usually very loose. Maybe that's the difference.

I really don't get it.

Okay, fuckface, nobody in this thread other than you has said anything about "swimming in an avalanche." Poles strapped to your wrists are anchors in a slide, anchors that in the grand scheme of things are located pretty close to your airway. I can recall several avalanche reports that have noted the use of pole straps as a contributing factor in a fatal burial, including on that happened earlier this winter.

Shoulder injuries related to pole straps are even more common and well documented than them acting as anchors in an avalanche. Your ignorance is showing.

Make sure you strap your poles on extra tight from now, mkay?

[Bushwacka]

yes I am calling that chute 45 degrees.

I can go back with a BCA slope meter and take pictures...

here is another video from the same chute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxswUl5j0T4

they looks pretty rough in there. The guy in the green jacket blows up, the POV skier cant ski it, and this is generally what happens when I take people there.

This is me in the same chute with no new snow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKY8wkJifyQ

many Mags have skied this chute and they will attest to how steep it is. If your in Vermont I ll take you right there.

[Dee Hubbs]

yes I am calling that chute 45 degrees.
I can go back with a BCA slope meter and take pictures....

[Bushwacka]

it might even be steeper.

Gpetric or Thincover and whiteroom skis have all skied that chute.

ask them directly.

Again it looks less steep in my video because I actually know what I am doing.



watch these guys, the green guys get back due to his sloppy fucking arms and blows up, the POV skier cant ski it and rotates his shoulders.

[Dee Hubbs]

Why do you have to run every thread?
Then I realized you're the OP of this thread. Sorry, so I'll say this:
You're right, why aren't releasable straps the standard.

[Mustonen]

yes I am calling that chute 45 degrees.

This is me in the same chute with no new snow.

And you don’t see the double pole plant?????

[Bushwacka]

And you don’t see the double pole plant?????

there is no time when I swing both poles and both poles at the same time.............



its pretty clear watching either video.

[Mustonen]

there is no time when I swing both poles and both poles at the same time.............



its pretty clear watching either video.

Whaaat? Where it’s almost like you’re trying (but not quite succeeding) in pushing yourself out of the backseat as you push your tails from turn to turn?

[Bushwacka]

Whaaat? Where it’s almost like you’re trying (but not quite succeeding) in pushing yourself out of the backseat as you push your tails from turn to turn?

dude you so funny.

here is the deal.

If you can some here and ski that chute with out stopping and with out falling Ill give you 1k.

seriously.

for all I know you sage fucking catabringa and you come school me.

I mean Ill even cover travel expenses if you live away.

otherwise your just another nameless troll who does nt know skiing.

PM if you want to do this.

[bodywhomper]

Lol. This is such a fun topic! 45*? Ha! You call that powder?!

I learned to not use pole straps a few decades ago from a patrol friend who is now a patrol director and is a pretty damn good skier (somebody want to touch me?). I used straps all the time before then, especially when bashing bump lines for hours on end. I’ve taught my kids to not use straps. They all ski like their dad taught them and they only half listened.

Most importantly, we are all having fun.

If I’m doing the real nordic thing, I’ll use straps and show my kids how to use their straps.... I’m still debating about a lycra suit.

[Pseudonym]

dude you so funny.

here is the deal.

If you can some here and ski that chute with out stopping and with out falling Ill give you 1k.

seriously.

I mean Ill even cover travel expenses if you live away.

PM if you want to do this.

Speaking of nameless trolls, here I am!

otherwise you're (sp) just another nameless troll who does not (sp) know skiing.

You cant even pay $50 to a mag for a pair of used skis they sold you.
Now you're offering $1000 to ski anyone who can ski a 23 degree chute, and you'll even pay their travel expenses?

[Mustonen]

I’m not Sage, but I could ski that chute without falling or stopping. My arms would do weird shit too, but my arms are all over the place and I like it that way. Not that it fucking matters that I can ski that. Does it matter? Why would it matter?

And I’m 65% getting you going but 35%, seriously, you’re doing some weird stuff with your uphill arm. Even weirder than my arm stuff.

And $1k plus travel? Shut up. Why?

[Bushwacka]

1k plus travel, if you can ski that chute with out stopping or falling and not just sideslipping the whole thing. cereal.

I think the weird stuff in that chute both times is the trying to lift the uphill arm up to avoid touching the hill because its so steep.

I pay a 3rd party on the forum and video and let the forum decide if you could do it or not. The only thing I get out of is video of you doing it or not doing it.

[AK47bp]

dude you so funny.

here is the deal.

If you can some here and ski that chute with out stopping and with out falling Ill give you 1k.

seriously.

for all I know you sage fucking catabringa and you come school me.

I mean Ill even cover travel expenses if you live away.

otherwise your just another nameless troll who does nt know skiing.

PM if you want to do this.

Whoa.

All expense paid trip AND $1000 to ski a chute in Vermont?

Dude, take this offer.


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[Bushwacka]

Whoa.

All expense paid trip AND $1000 to ski a chute in Vermont?

Dude, take this offer.


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he only gets it if he can indeed ski it.

[Mustonen]

Do I get the travel expenses either way?

[Bushwacka]

No. well maybe? where do you live?

I mean you sound pretty confident you can ski this 23 degree chute shouldnt be much of a risk.....

[Pseudonym]

Do we get the payment this year? or 11 years later, only after you get called out on TGR?

[Bushwacka]

Do we get the payment this year? or 11 years later, only after you get called out on TGR?

Can you read.

If he does it I pay a 3rd party member so I cannt back out.

[Dee Hubbs]

PM'd with my Star Alliance Frequent Flyer number, my seat preference and my desired departure airport.
Should I expect a BOS arrival? How is ground transportation handled, how I pack my gear depends on ground transpo.
Speaking of gear, is this "chute" acccessed from the lift, or do I need a touring setup? Skins and touring binding, or just a walk mode boot (propperly canted of course)?
Should I PM you for these details?

[AK47bp]

Do I get the travel expenses either way?

Be sure to request a rental car upgrade and pre pay for gas.




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[Pseudonym]

If he does it I pay a 3rd party member so I cannt back out.

Because thats your specialty, backing out of payments after skis already get shipped to you. Only to pay 11 years later?
We are sorry you lost your job for sexually harassing girls you worked with, but you need to pay your debts here.