21/22 Gear Rumors

[SoVT Joey]

eh when you have the same people for dozens of days over years it becomes coaching.

SOVT joey is scared of skiing stowe with me. Says he is a CVA grad, he should be able to easily out class me.

No. I said I don’t waste time skiing with lying fucks that embellish everything that comes out of their mouths. Would you like me to post my response to the message you sent me?

And yes. That’s what my diploma says.

[Bushwacka]

No. I said I don’t waste time skiing with lying fucks that embellish everything that comes out of their mouths. Would you like me to post my response to the message you sent me?

And yes. That’s what my diploma says.

go head. What have I embellished? what Have I lied about? The photo wasnt photshopped by me BTW....

Again this all started as counter to people saying people dont need stiff boots.

[MD12]

You guys are both right and what you’re saying is not mutually exclusive. Pressuring the front of the boot transmits power to the skis down through the spine. Boots with too soft a flex don’t transmit enough power for that person. Boots with brackish flexes that are too stiff for someone to apply the right amount of pressure are uncomfortable and don’t allow the skier to apply enough pressure to the front of the boot. Was just talking about this with a former Olympian and World Cup gold medalist.

[Bushwacka]

You guys are both right and what you’re saying is not mutually exclusive. Pressuring the front of the boot transmits power to the skis down through the spine. Boots with too soft a flex don’t transmit enough power for that person. Boots with brackish flexes that are too stiff for someone to apply the right amount of pressure are uncomfortable and don’t allow the skier to apply enough pressure to the front of the boot. Was just talking about this with a former Olympian and World Cup gold medalist.

This is kind of my point.......the issue is bad alignment gets misstaken for boots that are too stiff all the time.

[buttahflake]

185 lbs? You wish

[Bushwacka]

185 lbs? You wish

I got fatty liver disease and lost 45lb. Ironically is while dieing I feel better than ever.

[SoVT Joey]

No this got interesting as soon as you said boots didn’t have to flex as long as alignment was perfect. And you have back walked that the entire way. Obviously everyone else is capable of reading and that is where you are lacking. And a 30inch thigh and 185? Maybe in your fucking bra.

[buttahflake]

I got fatty liver disease and lost 45lb. Ironically is while dieing I feel better than ever.

Are you a big drinker? I didn’t realize that. Stay off the sauce JM.

I ski on Krypton 120’s and freaking love them!

[Mustonen]

I think I do understand how strong ski racers legs are. I can leg press 700lb and squat 400lb. My thighs are 30 inches around I weigh 185 lb. half my weight is from my butt down.

Hey, is this the same guy who would come in and spray about some inane technique issue and then post a video of him doing some mediocre skiing from the backseat?

I seem to have no issue flexxing and extending. this run is VERY steep 40-45 degrees.I know you wont believe but the Smuggs/Stowe Mag who know what it is well vouch for its steepness

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLAWqvEjO4M/

Here it is from the top.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLB-Sk5D9m1/

I mean if you have an epic pass and want to come to stowe today, I can take you right to this spot and film you coming down it and post it here. It sounds like your a way better skier and know way more than me, Like I said in the first post I am clearly shit.

Yup. Same guy.

[glademaster]

The one and only.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Smells like Telemark Tips in here. Pear body Matta bringing the lulz


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[MD12]

Flex is what gets you to the right boot alignment. Faster you go carving the more forward you want your alignment to be while still providing resistance. The flex when matched to the right skier and style gets the skier into the right alignment while they are skiing. IMO That’s where bushwacka wasn’t being clear and the disagreement ends. Also why racers like two piece boots - more progressive flex pattern that gets stiffer as you get deeper into the flex, allowing more resistance to high speeds to get the right angle.

Who wants to talk about 2022 gear?

[glademaster]

Smells like Telemark Tips in here. Pear body Matta bringing the lulz


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I'm not picking up any patchouli.

[iriponsnow]

Here, you guys can toss tomatoes at me for a bit.....

Lil sequence from the weekend in new Krypton on a 168 WC SL ski, DIN & trying to keep hand off the ground.

[buttahflake]

Good looking turn, like the flexing during transition in the second shot. Very Harald Harb, which is way better than PSIA

[iriponsnow]

^155 pounds ; "C" cuff

[buttahflake]

What’s the flex rating on the c?

[glademaster]

Wow, that one piece is...something. It looks like a survival suit.

[kootenayskier]

I have un flexable boots. I modifed some KR2 pros to the point I literally cannt move them while standing and honestly I think they only flex alittle in GS turns, IMO its more than the skis and boot pressing into me flexes the boot. I also ski in some Dalbello WSC 170s and a pair of Tecnia Mach 1 130s. The Mach 1 I use mostly to coach very beginner lessons but anytime I ski them for real I tire really quickly and my achilles tendon hurts from being over extended. The alignment of all the boots is the same.

I use my knees, hips and upper body to compress and extend ankles are very small part of this. Well I am sure my liners compress alittle as well. No ski is a brick wall. The correct angle will be different for different people as the tib/fib to femur ratio is what should determined ramp/forward lean.

I think I do understand how strong ski racers legs are. I can leg press 700lb and squat 400lb. My thighs are 30 inches around I weigh 185 lb. half my weight is from my butt down.

I seem to have no issue flexxing and extending. this run is VERY steep 40-45 degrees.I know you wont believe but the Smuggs/Stowe Mag who know what it is well vouch for its steepness

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLAWqvEjO4M/

Here it is from the top.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLB-Sk5D9m1/

I mean if you have an epic pass and want to come to stowe today, I can take you right to this spot and film you coming down it and post it here. It sounds like your a way better skier and know way more than me, Like I said in the first post I am clearly shit.

A valid issue, but I don’t think you’re quite getting it. Perhaps you should start your own thread and see if you get any takers to argue over the minutia of boot flex, stance, and technique. All posters should be required to include videos when they start spraying, as the reality check is illuminating.

[iriponsnow]

Good looking turn, like the flexing during transition in the second shot. Very Harald Harb, which is way better than PSIA

What’s the flex rating on the c?

My coach has worked with HH & learning a flexing transition has been a focus.

"C" works out to ~120 in Dalbello lingo

[iriponsnow]

Wow, that one piece is...something. It looks like a survival suit.

2 piece item from Onyone of Japan. This is from their 2022 professional line. Our current test outfit over at ExoticSkis.com

[smooth operator]

so if a crowbar doesnt flex (bend) it cannot transmit power?

As much as I enjoy this flexing stuff, maybe start a separate topic and lets get back to talkin new fancy gear here?

[123ski]

I’ve never encountered an “inflexible” boot.

If a boot feels “inflexible” to you, it’s probably too stiff.

Even WC boots flex easily when i ski them down the fall line.


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[dcpnz]

JFC guys, way to kill a good thread on new gear.
Please take this $hit elsewhere.

[ZomblibulaX]

Here, you guys can toss tomatoes at me for a bit.....

Lil sequence from the weekend in new Krypton on a 168 WC SL ski, DIN & trying to keep hand off the ground.

Minimal-extension transition like Hirscher and then you extend reaching in to the top of the turn? Your boots are clearly flexing! Your technique is a festering pile of maggot-infested elephant dung and you’ll never amount to anything as a human being! You should be ashamed of yourself in your not-quite-SteepTech-fartbag! If you don’t bolt your cuff to your clog with a steel plate you’ll never be able to turn!

Leave it to fucking PSIA to take every bit of fun out of fucking skiing. Over analyzing shit, staring at your tips and telling everyone how much better you are than them because you paid to get your cert 2. You’re better than average, bushwhacka. Congratulations.

Back on topic:

Any idea why tyrolia would combine the attack 16 & 18 into the “new” 17 and not make it 9523 compatible? Guessing their team is breaking sliding afds, just surprised they still don’t have a MN/AT option over 14.