Zwift, TR, Sufferfest etc

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I'll pump an old cycling buddies base layer. Look at Knave Wear. I like their logo and motto. Have a knife day was a reference on our rides of bringing the wrong bike to the ride.

https://knavewear.com/collections/all-seasons


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Those look awesome. May have to pick one up.

[Dee Hubbs]

Do I did a bit of trainer/bike maintenance tonight.
I have a Kurt Kinetic R1 (wheel off, smart trainer). When it first came out in Dec 2019/Jan 2020 it got some unfavorable reviews from the high profile reviewers like DC Rainmaker, GP Lama and Slowtwitch. They thought it was noisy, the software program was spotty and not very accurate at the top of the power range (1600w-2000w), abs some serious lag in power data.
In late January early February 2020 Kurt Kinetic put them on sale for 40% off of the $1100 retail price directly from their web page. I also had a proform deal at %40, so this “new deal” was not of any use to me. I called customer service and and spoke to someone and let them know I was trying to buy an R1 online but the discount code was not working. She created a “unique one-off code” for me that I then was able to actually get to work on my online proform, and ended up getting the R1 at 40% off of my 40% off pro-price. It ended up being just over $400 total!
Little did they know they would not have had any issues selling all the models at full price once the pandemic lockdown hit.
Since then Kurt Kinetic has released a few different software and hardware updates, and the machine has since been reviewed as being accurate.
I lube the free hub at the start of the winter season, and adjusted the belt tension after the initial break in period. What I don’t do is calibrate it very often. It’s a pain in the ass to do a 10 minute Zwift ride, stop, un-pair the trainer from Zwift, log into the Kurt Kinetic app, pair the trainer, and then do a spin down calibration. But when ever I have done the calibration the 780ish value is always within 1 or 2 of the same number I always get.
Tonight I decided my chain needed some love, so I pulled my chain and soaked it in the wax crock pot (Whole other thread).
While cleaning a bit of dry wax flakes off of the cassette and the base of the trainer I wondered how accurate my R1 trainer really was?
Has my FTP really increased X amount, am I really that much slower (less powerful) than 10 guys on the TGR ride?
I have a Stages Power Meter Left Crank on my road bike, so I pulled that off of my road bike and installed it on my Zwift bike, with my Garmin Head Unit, along with a freshly waxed chain.
I did a few short NYC laps and then a big climb up Innsbruck KOM.
My numbers on my Garmin that was reading my Stages Power Meter were almost identical to the numbers on Zwift screen. The changes in power showed the exact same numbers simultaneously with no lag in either reading. And after a 45 min ride in Innsbruck all my power numbers recorded on my Garmin were the exact same as my Strava numbers recorded from Zwift.
I’m impressed and happy with my Kurt Kinetic R1, and also feel confident the Zwift numbers are accurate.

[huckbucket]

Do I did a bit of trainer/bike maintenance tonight.
I have a Kurt Kinetic R1 (wheel off, smart trainer). When it first came out in Dec 2019/Jan 2020 it got some unfavorable reviews from the high profile reviewers like DC Rainmaker, GP Lama and Slowtwitch. They thought it was noisy, the software program was spotty and not very accurate at the top of the power range (1600w-2000w), abs some serious lag in power data.
In late January early February 2020 Kurt Kinetic put them on sale for 40% off of the $1100 retail price directly from their web page. I also had a proform deal at %40, so this “new deal” was not of any use to me. I called customer service and and spoke to someone and let them know I was trying to buy an R1 online but the discount code was not working. She created a “unique one-off code” for me that I then was able to actually get to work on my online proform, and ended up getting the R1 at 40% off of my 40% off pro-price. It ended up being just over $400 total!
Little did they know they would not have had any issues selling all the models at full price once the pandemic lockdown hit.
Since then Kurt Kinetic has released a few different software and hardware updates, and the machine has since been reviewed as being accurate.
I lube the free hub at the start of the winter season, and adjusted the belt tension after the initial break in period. What I don’t do is calibrate it very often. It’s a pain in the ass to do a 10 minute Zwift ride, stop, un-pair the trainer from Zwift, log into the Kurt Kinetic app, pair the trainer, and then do a spin down calibration. But when ever I have done the calibration the 780ish value is always within 1 or 2 of the same number I always get.
Tonight I decided my chain needed some love, so I pulled my chain and soaked it in the wax crock pot (Whole other thread).
While cleaning a bit of dry wax flakes off of the cassette and the base of the trainer I wondered how accurate my R1 trainer really was?
Has my FTP really increased X amount, am I really that much slower (less powerful) than 10 guys on the TGR ride?
I have a Stages Power Meter Left Crank on my road bike, so I pulled that off of my road bike and installed it on my Zwift bike, with my Garmin Head Unit, along with a freshly waxed chain.
I did a few short NYC laps and then a big climb up Innsbruck KOM.
My numbers on my Garmin that was reading my Stages Power Meter were almost identical to the numbers on Zwift screen. The changes in power showed the exact same numbers simultaneously with no lag in either reading. And after a 45 min ride in Innsbruck all my power numbers recorded on my Garmin were the exact same as my Strava numbers recorded from Zwift.
I’m impressed and happy with my Kurt Kinetic R1, and also feel confident the Zwift numbers are accurate.

Nice.

When you're secretely hoping the trainer was miscalibrated and reading low by 30 watts. Could just as easily go the other way though.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I haven' been able to calibrate my shitty Kurt trainer in like 2+ years. No amount of pulling batteries etc will get my trainer to connect to the app anymore. Maybe it's cause the trainer is like 6 or 7 years old and they don't support it anymore. IDK.

Glad you are having success with that R1 trainer and got such a sweet deal!

[TrueNorth]

I'm upgrading to a wheel-off trainer, and will soon be selling my Tacx Vortex wheel-on smart trainer. I've had it for a little over a year, and done maybe 20 ish rides so it's in excellent condition. The local market is hottttt right now, so thinking of listing locally for $500 CAD with a lightly used trainer tire thrown in. I can figure out a shipping cost if anybody is seriously interested.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I'm upgrading to a wheel-off trainer, and will soon be selling my Tacx Vortex wheel-on smart trainer. I've had it for a little over a year, and done maybe 20 ish rides so it's in excellent condition. The local market is hottttt right now, so thinking of listing locally for $500 CAD with a lightly used trainer tire thrown in. I can figure out a shipping cost if anybody is seriously interested.

Tempting, but I really want a wheel off trainer as well......hmmmm.

[jamal]

Well that sure escalated quickly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peeozS_3bfc

[Dee Hubbs]

You’re gonna scare off any potential new riders. [emoji6]
Don’t worry, the mere mortals at the back of the pack are east to keep up with!

[Dee Hubbs]

8 Riders tonight!
I left the ride early, after already riding 50km earlier in the day for Tour de Zwift, so I missed the fireworks at the end.

Tonight we had:
Dee Hubbs (left early)
jamal (P.L.)
lowagriz (T.A.)
justcuz (K.R.)
huckbucket (PMJ)
Merlyn (S.S.)
EWG (Fur Thur)
Vtskibum (M.P.)

[Iowagriz]

Nice racing guys.

Thanks for letting me back on after the lap 2 sprint, I really was toasted. I pushed the pace over the viaduct to make sure I was with you guys going into the climb. I died about the same spot as last time, halfway up the climb. Still had fun.

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[EWG]

Do I did a bit of trainer/bike maintenance tonight.
I have a Kurt Kinetic R1 (wheel off, smart trainer). When it first came out in Dec 2019/Jan 2020 it got some unfavorable reviews from the high profile reviewers like DC Rainmaker, GP Lama and Slowtwitch. They thought it was noisy, the software program was spotty and not very accurate at the top of the power range (1600w-2000w), abs some serious lag in power data.
In late January early February 2020 Kurt Kinetic put them on sale for 40% off of the $1100 retail price directly from their web page. I also had a proform deal at %40, so this “new deal” was not of any use to me. I called customer service and and spoke to someone and let them know I was trying to buy an R1 online but the discount code was not working. She created a “unique one-off code” for me that I then was able to actually get to work on my online proform, and ended up getting the R1 at 40% off of my 40% off pro-price. It ended up being just over $400 total!
Little did they know they would not have had any issues selling all the models at full price once the pandemic lockdown hit.
Since then Kurt Kinetic has released a few different software and hardware updates, and the machine has since been reviewed as being accurate.
I lube the free hub at the start of the winter season, and adjusted the belt tension after the initial break in period. What I don’t do is calibrate it very often. It’s a pain in the ass to do a 10 minute Zwift ride, stop, un-pair the trainer from Zwift, log into the Kurt Kinetic app, pair the trainer, and then do a spin down calibration. But when ever I have done the calibration the 780ish value is always within 1 or 2 of the same number I always get.
Tonight I decided my chain needed some love, so I pulled my chain and soaked it in the wax crock pot (Whole other thread).
While cleaning a bit of dry wax flakes off of the cassette and the base of the trainer I wondered how accurate my R1 trainer really was?
Has my FTP really increased X amount, am I really that much slower (less powerful) than 10 guys on the TGR ride?
I have a Stages Power Meter Left Crank on my road bike, so I pulled that off of my road bike and installed it on my Zwift bike, with my Garmin Head Unit, along with a freshly waxed chain.
I did a few short NYC laps and then a big climb up Innsbruck KOM.
My numbers on my Garmin that was reading my Stages Power Meter were almost identical to the numbers on Zwift screen. The changes in power showed the exact same numbers simultaneously with no lag in either reading. And after a 45 min ride in Innsbruck all my power numbers recorded on my Garmin were the exact same as my Strava numbers recorded from Zwift.
I’m impressed and happy with my Kurt Kinetic R1, and also feel confident the Zwift numbers are accurate.

Its pretty clear to me that you have too much time on your hands. Hopefully that changes soon.

[VTskibum]

Fun one tonight, well done Jamal. Tough time keeping my dinner down at the end there


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[huckbucket]

Well that sure escalated quickly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peeozS_3bfc

Thanks for posting!

Was messing with the new bike tonight and my first time with Di2. Third time up on the climb was in the little ring and discovered Di2's clever trick to avoid cross-chaining by locking you out of the two smallest cogs. Not that I would have hung with you and Mike (way to go Mike!) but I ran out of gears halfway up the climb when Mike hit it.

As always ... lots of fun and thanks for organizing D!

[jamal]

I thought you had me when you caught my attack at 1k and then got that little gap. I was going to wait until we were closer but when you used the truck I figured I better not give you any more time to catch your breath.

[VTskibum]

You definitely caught me out on the false flat with the feather. My counter wasnt gonna stick as you saw. I went pretty deep on those repeated max efforts, haven’t done those in a while.

I’ll have to look at my power numbers as well, did see I PR’ed most of the segments on the backside. Think I took 6+ seconds off my fastest hill to finish time. Will have to check power curve tomorrow, late east coast time now


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[Dee Hubbs]

Its pretty clear to me that you have too much time on your hands. Hopefully that changes soon.

I haven't worked since mid September.
I've skied almost 50 days so far this season.
I have 5 excel spread sheets on the go, just related to Zwift. One (1) for Zwift bikes and wheel purchases, comparing points/levels and climbing/aero/weight ratings. One (2) for the attendance of TGR rides, and TGR names vs Zwift names. One (3) for the routes on Tour de Zwift, comparing the routes lengths and elevation gain in each of the different ride categories, and which ones will get me a new route badge. (4) I also have one with all the Zwift routes with KMs and climbing meters, so I can check them off as I get route badges. (5) And I have one for Watts to W/kg based on my actual weight and target weights.

If waxing my chain and calibrating a power meter is too much time on my hands, you should see how much ski wax I have gone through tuning my own skis lately. I just ordered 900g of PS6 from Swix. I have skied in 9 different pairs of my skis this season.
Yes I am use to being very busy, and I have time off of work that I have not had in 20 years.

[EWG]

I haven't worked since mid September.
I've skied almost 50 days so far this season.
I have 5 excel spread sheets on the go, just related to Zwift. One (1) for Zwift bikes and wheel purchases, comparing points/levels and climbing/aero/weight ratings. One (2) for the attendance of TGR rides, and TGR names vs Zwift names. One (3) for the routes on Tour de Zwift, comparing the routes lengths and elevation gain in each of the different ride categories, and which ones will get me a new route badge. (4) I also have one with all the Zwift routes with KMs and climbing meters, so I can check them off as I get route badges. (5) And I have one for Watts to W/kg based on my actual weight and target weights.

If waxing my chain and calibrating a power meter is too much time on my hands, you should see how much ski wax I have gone through tuning my own skis lately. I just ordered 900g of PS6 from Swix. I have skied in 9 different pairs of my skis this season.
Yes I am use to being very busy, and I have time off of work that I have not had in 20 years.

I'll be in your neck of the woods Thursday. I will be dropping off 3 sets of skis and 4 bikes. Skis get re-edged at 1.5/1.5 for the wide ones, 2.0/1.0 for the narrower ones. All purpose wax is fine. Bikes should get full drivetrain cleans (just leave the chains bare, I don't do that wax crap.) You'll see one of the reverbs is stuck down and another has the 1" sag thing so full rebuilds on those seatposts please.

Thanks, I'll pick them up next Tuesday. What kind of beer do you like?

Thanks Dee. Appreciate it.

[bennymac]

I haven't worked since mid September.
I've skied almost 50 days so far this season.
I have 5 excel spread sheets on the go, just related to Zwift. One (1) for Zwift bikes and wheel purchases, comparing points/levels and climbing/aero/weight ratings. One (2) for the attendance of TGR rides, and TGR names vs Zwift names. One (3) for the routes on Tour de Zwift, comparing the routes lengths and elevation gain in each of the different ride categories, and which ones will get me a new route badge. (4) I also have one with all the Zwift routes with KMs and climbing meters, so I can check them off as I get route badges. (5) And I have one for Watts to W/kg based on my actual weight and target weights.

If waxing my chain and calibrating a power meter is too much time on my hands, you should see how much ski wax I have gone through tuning my own skis lately. I just ordered 900g of PS6 from Swix. I have skied in 9 different pairs of my skis this season.
Yes I am use to being very busy, and I have time off of work that I have not had in 20 years.

I love seeing people doing shit like this.

[buttahflake]

Looks like some Z-Power shenanigans going on with the jersey boy, just sayin is all!

[huckbucket]

Looks like some Z-Power shenanigans going on with the jersey boy, just sayin is all!

Gonna need this in English please. Kthxbye

[buttahflake]

I’m confused, too many gummies. I thought MP was White Room Guardian, dumb trainer. My bad, carry on

I don’t think I’ve ever had my numbers go red, does that happen only if you’re pushing mega watts?

[huckbucket]

I’m confused, too many gummies. I thought MP was White Room Guardian, dumb trainer. My bad, carry on

I don’t think I’ve ever had my numbers go red, does that happen only if you’re pushing mega watts?

Numbers flash red when you hit your highest w/kg for a given ride. You must have been look during the sprint on lap 2.

[Dee Hubbs]

I’m confused, too many gummies. I thought MP was White Room Guardian, dumb trainer. My bad, carry on
I don’t think I’ve ever had my numbers go red, does that happen only if you’re pushing mega watts?

I've provided a spreadsheet, so you should know who's who.

If a riders w/kg goes over their FTP, their avatar will stand up. If a rider’s w/kg goes above 8w/kg, the number will go orange.

[buttahflake]

No wonder I’ve never seen orange, damn!

[VTskibum]

Avatar also stands up if your cadence is under 70rpm I think. I don't tend to run the color line at the bottom, generally know pretty well my power numbers and certainly can feel it.