East Coast Roll Call #??? 20-21 Covid closures and hard core touring! Be Fit or Sit

[slatham]

Except when I go out I’m masked and only spreading amongst my community, I’m not traveling beyond my county. My parents 1 hour north haven’t seen their grandkids since school started and the one time they saw me, I was masked and never entered their house.

I don’t make the rules and I trust the VT Gov to have the citizens of VT in his best interest. I guarantee if the state epidemiologist thought wide spread travel was wise they would tell us so, but this is not the case. Nearly every state within driving distance of VT has some measure of lockdown, it’s unnecessary and a disservice to VT to not abide by your states requirements or ours. .

Yeah, it sucks, ski season will be rough, places will close, passes next year will be more expensive, second home owners will lose money and not enjoy places they love. However, it’s a pandemic and everyone is or should be making sacrifices. If you can’t or disregard these measures you are an asshole and you deserve to be publicly shamed for not having the intelligence to understand the gravity of the situation.

Agreed. The point I was trying to make was that local Vermonters also need to heed Peruvians advice.

And for the record, I have and will continue to follow VT's guidelines.

[ex-powderbroker]

For the record, I am also telling everyone to heed all rules and not be stupid assholes. I just have low expectations based on recent evidence of people being incapable of doing the right thing. There will be beer and powder in everyone's future after we get through this.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Vermont just fucked itself. Morning news cataloging spreader events: Halloween party in Milton, bowling league in Colchester, etc. WTF people? We had the virus mostly back in the genie bottle and now....No discipline.

Except when I go out I’m masked and only spreading amongst my community, I’m not traveling beyond my county. My parents 1 hour north haven’t seen their grandkids since school started and the one time they saw me, I was masked and never entered their house.

I don’t make the rules and I trust the VT Gov to have the citizens of VT in his best interest. I guarantee if the state epidemiologist thought wide spread travel was wise they would tell us so, but this is not the case. Nearly every state within driving distance of VT has some measure of lockdown, it’s unnecessary and a disservice to VT to not abide by your states requirements or ours. .

Yeah, it sucks, ski season will be rough, places will close, passes next year will be more expensive, second home owners will lose money and not enjoy places they love. However, it’s a pandemic and everyone is or should be making sacrifices. If you can’t or disregard these measures you are an asshole and you deserve to be publicly shamed for not having the intelligence to understand the gravity of the situation.

This

Discipline people or nobody gets to ski this year. Besides, skiing in December and January sucks. It's a necessary evil to get to February and March.

[Benny Profane]

For the record, I am also telling everyone to heed all rules and not be stupid assholes. I just have low expectations based on recent evidence of people being incapable of doing the right thing. There will be beer and powder in everyone's future after we get through this.

And I am starting to have very low expectations from a crawling snake like you who won't give me a man up response as to why you fucked with one of my posts. Who the fuck are you and who the fuck do you think you are?

[m2711c]

benny has questions and he wants answers.

[Breakwater]

26 Pages of endless rambling, and not one single ski resort open. Let's get this baby up to 100 before anything opens and 1,000 pages at season's end. Should be easy when the resorts shut down in December.

[prsboogie]

I am and I blame us. The restrictions were working but in-staters took it for granted that we had this and started doing stupid shit. And here we are. I'm glad I can walk to skiable terrain, with or without lifts.

I only wish I lived close enough to hike to terrain but I don't. I also wished people would listen and obey the restrictions in place but they won't. This is part and parcel why we are even having resurgence like we are. We have had a dramatic increase of sick patients over the last three weeks at work.

One thing I have noticed with the new admissions this time through is, while they are sick, they are slightly less critical as they were in March, April and May.

Bottom line wear your mask, stop hanging out and stay home when you (the collective you) don't need to be out.

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[prsboogie]

71% of new cases associated with private events, yet he closes bars and restaurants? I’m confused.

People go to bars then private parties days later, spreading their virus breathe everywhere. Or vice-versa

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[Peruvian]

26 Pages of endless rambling, and not one single ski resort open. Let's get this baby up to 100 before anything opens and 1,000 pages at season's end. Should be easy when the resorts shut down in December.

You must be new here.

[geomorph]

Serious question: if all sports (non-school related) in VT are closed how is skiing supposed to happen? It's not a sport?

[Laps]

I think it is indoor team sports for club and rec leagues.


But, given that we can’t even walk with a neighbor, I am not so sure how skiing will work.


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[Wookiee]

I think it is indoor team sports for club and rec leagues.


But, given that we can’t even walk with a neighbor, I am not so sure how skiing will work.


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I played hockey all growing up and throughout college; out of any sport if one kid has it a significant number of other kids will have it. You are mouth breathing profusely in close proximity to everyone within a close rink with no airflow.

[Breakwater]

That You Rog?
Looks like Covid is Knee to waist high. Shit.

[krp8128]

I have been watching this evolve since January in Wuhan as it affects my daily work.

I haven't been outside my county since February, haven't been to a bar or restaurant since March. I just broke my no takeout food rule last month for a single meal, and am right back to avoiding food I don't prepare myself. I did chance seeing my parents once, their town has 300 people in it, (next closest town is 25 miles and only has 1500 people), they drove out when the overall load was low, no stops along the way and didn't leave my house. I'm glad I saw them because this isnt going away anytime soon. I wish I could see my grandmother turn 91 this next weekend, but that's not going to happen. This is probably her last birthday.

I'm going back to only going to work (we aren't allowed wfh) and the grocery store every 2 weeks at odd hours. I went last night and the damn bowling alley had a packed lot for league night.

What I see on a daily basis just baffles me. Supposedly educated adults making poor decisions, like this is all still a hoax 11 months later. People just don't get it, they want they're freedoms at the price of death and suffering (financial, mental and physical) for others. Stay the fuck home. If you must got out, wear a fucking mask and stay away from people.

If we can all just get over ourselves for a god damn month this will get a while lot better. 3 weeks, that's all we need. Stay the fuck home. If your are essential, as in medical or life safety, due your diligence but keep it to a minimum.

[FussyDutchman]

But, given that we can’t even walk with a neighbor, I am not so sure how skiing will work.


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This makes absolutely no fucking sense, I can go to a restaurant and sit inside with God knows who visiting from anywhere USA but can't walk 10ft apart outside with my neighbors who I know are as cautious/conscious about being spreaders as my wife and I are, pure stupidity there!

[Laps]

Yup. Not sure what the reasoning was behind a lot of the news restrictions, seems a bit scattered.


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[prsboogie]

Its not the visitors for God fucking know where that is causing the increase. Its your native Vt'ers. Stop blaming out of towers for everything

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[danmelon]

benny has questions and he wants answers.

He just mixed up his meds again man.

Pipe down Benny

[Brownski]

Yup. Not sure what the reasoning was behind a lot of the news restrictions, seems a bit scattered.


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When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail

[iriponsnow]

I have been watching this evolve since January in Wuhan as it affects my daily work.

I haven't been outside my county since February, haven't been to a bar or restaurant since March. I just broke my no takeout food rule last month for a single meal, and am right back to avoiding food I don't prepare myself. I did chance seeing my parents once, their town has 300 people in it, (next closest town is 25 miles and only has 1500 people), they drove out when the overall load was low, no stops along the way and didn't leave my house. I'm glad I saw them because this isnt going away anytime soon. I wish I could see my grandmother turn 91 this next weekend, but that's not going to happen. This is probably her last birthday.

I'm going back to only going to work (we aren't allowed wfh) and the grocery store every 2 weeks at odd hours. I went last night and the damn bowling alley had a packed lot for league night.

What I see on a daily basis just baffles me. Supposedly educated adults making poor decisions, like this is all still a hoax 11 months later. People just don't get it, they want they're freedoms at the price of death and suffering (financial, mental and physical) for others. Stay the fuck home. If you must got out, wear a fucking mask and stay away from people.

If we can all just get over ourselves for a god damn month this will get a while lot better. 3 weeks, that's all we need. Stay the fuck home. If your are essential, as in medical or life safety, due your diligence but keep it to a minimum.

^ this

I can’t understand how ppl can’t get it. It’s not an elitist local Vermont resident slant, y’all gotta keep ur petri dish out of the next petri.

It’s an interesting case study in humans’ need for interaction.

FWIW, I am hearing that ski areas will push back to January 1 - several independent sources confirming.

My concern is that if they miss Turkey day & Xmas/NYD..... it’s game over- not spinning this season.

Skins are already on the skis bros.

[Skidog]

It’s an interesting case study in humans’ need for interaction.

Yep. Pretty much


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[AdironRider]

Irip, while I believe you really do want the best outcome, you gotta realize that not everyone is as secure with their employment and financial security through this as you are, and to just say shut it down really fucks over a lot of people and you should probably be more cognizant that a lot of businesses will not just be able to bounce back from this. Health care and your job aren’t going anywhere, but that is just a small slice of the Vermont economy pie and a financial bailout is not guaranteed for the people who are paying financially for your security.

[krp8128]

Irip, while I believe you really do want the best outcome, you gotta realize that not everyone is as secure with their employment and financial security through this as you are, and to just say shut it down really fucks over a lot of people and you should probably be more cognizant that a lot of businesses will not just be able to bounce back from this. Health care and your job aren’t going anywhere, but that is just a small slice of the Vermont economy pie and a financial bailout is not guaranteed for the people who are paying financially for your security.

What's better, a 1 month hard closure or dragging this out for 1.5 years?

[AdironRider]

We already basically did a hard closure once, and yet here we are.

Flatten the curve has now turned into any uptick in cases is not acceptable. Obviously no one is wishing this on anyone but come on man, over half this country lives paycheck to paycheck and just saying shut it down is a non starter for them.

I typically hate this saying, but a lot of people need to check their privilege on this and realize they are at the top of the food chain so to speak here and the ramifications for them are basically non existent vs what the majority of the country, and the neediest of people, are facing when you say, shut it down for a month.

[SoVT Joey]

We already basically did a hard closure once, and yet here we are.

Flatten the curve has now turned into any uptick in cases is not acceptable. Obviously no one is wishing this on anyone but come on man, over half this country lives paycheck to paycheck and just saying shut it down is a non starter for them.

I typically hate this saying, but a lot of people need to check their privilege on this and realize they are at the top of the food chain so to speak here and the ramifications for them are basically non existent vs what the majority of the country, and the neediest of people, are facing when you say, shut it down for a month.

Exactly. What’s better. Let virus kill people or tell them to stay home and starve to death while drinking, and doing drugs and becoming depressed. I’ll take my chances with the virus. The later will definitely kill you.


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