East Coast Roll Call #??? 20-21 Covid closures and hard core touring! Be Fit or Sit

[jhyatt]

My prediction on the VT rules: lots of folks have moved to second homes or just moved to VT to escape COVID and work from home so there will be those people. There will be IKON/EPIC daytrippers who don't follow the rules. Neither of those groups spend much money on lodging/food/drink/lessons/rentals/day tickets.

The family of 4 in the X3 with Jersey plates buying 3 days of lodging/tickets/lessons/rentals over MLK weekend will not come, but they would have spent more money on that one weekend that many of us spend on a 50+ day ski season.

Skiing in NH will be incredible busy.

[Hammer-Down]

Good to see some (post) action shots. Report I got was lot 1 had a lot of activity yesterday afternoon.

Resorts have some chance (likely slim but a chance) of staying operational with just local patrons but absolutely none if there is an influx of out of starters in conjunction with a spike in cases statewide. Scott will not hesitate to force resorts to close regardless of whether cases can be attributed/traced to non Vermonters ignoring quarantine guidelines to come ski/ride/snowmobile etc. to avoid a larger and much more costly statewide lockdown. If you want there to be more than a one month season, respect the quarantine rules and there is a chance that can happen, the alternative sucks even more for everyone.

i can't speak specifically to this scenario in Covid times.....but I know the establishment I ski at regularly will often ask folks in your position to not ski when terrain is limited going into big holiday weekends. I think it is only common when going into the something like Xmas week and they have been dealt a complete shit-sandwich forecast and things look grim. So will they ask the same during Covid? Probably.

[Boreas]

I’m a little pissed at myself for not skiing this morning.

[Jonathan S.]

[disclaimer: cross-posted to FB]
Has anyone received any emails from any VT ski resorts -- alpine or nordic, although special bonus points for Stowe alpine -- explicitly stating that masks will be REQUIRED when skiing (i.e., "skiing" as in actually, you know, like, skiing, not riding a lift, or waiting in line, or hanging out in the base area, or entering the lodge).
The VT ski resort "mandatory guidance" released yesterday simply references the statewide mask rule, which in turn specifically cites "where it is not possible to maintain a physical distance of at least six feet" and further specifies "Nothing in this Order or any other State health and safety guidance shall require the use of a mask or cloth facial covering when someone is engaged in strenuous exercise or activity [...]"
I also quickly checked out the Stowe website, which still has the standard Vail text:
"Do I have to wear a face covering while I’m skiing and snowboarding?
While face coverings are not required during the physical acts of skiing and snowboarding if the guest is maintaining proper physical distance and is not in the vicinity of others, it is recommended guests do so. Otherwise, face coverings are required in every part of our operation, including while loading and riding on chairlifts and in gondolas, inside all buildings, and during all ski and snowboard lessons."

[m2711c]

No.

[Boreas]

[disclaimer: cross-posted to FB]
Has anyone received any emails from any VT ski resorts -- alpine or nordic, although special bonus points for Stowe alpine -- explicitly stating that masks will be REQUIRED when skiing (i.e., "skiing" as in actually, you know, like, skiing, not riding a lift, or waiting in line, or hanging out in the base area, or entering the lodge).
The VT ski resort "mandatory guidance" released yesterday simply references the statewide mask rule, which in turn specifically cites "where it is not possible to maintain a physical distance of at least six feet" and further specifies "Nothing in this Order or any other State health and safety guidance shall require the use of a mask or cloth facial covering when someone is engaged in strenuous exercise or activity [...]"
I also quickly checked out the Stowe website, which still has the standard Vail text:
"Do I have to wear a face covering while I’m skiing and snowboarding?
While face coverings are not required during the physical acts of skiing and snowboarding if the guest is maintaining proper physical distance and is not in the vicinity of others, it is recommended guests do so. Otherwise, face coverings are required in every part of our operation, including while loading and riding on chairlifts and in gondolas, inside all buildings, and during all ski and snowboard lessons."

Seems pretty clear, if you or anyone is not able to maintain the as currently determined distance of 6 feet, masks are required. Seems like a pretty reasonable guideline for a sport that many wear masks for regardless of temperature.

Fairly positive at this point If the state issued a guideline to use scuba gear while scuba diving, 49.9% of America would take offense and find some way to prove the state is fucking with their “freedoms.”

[Jonathan S.]

Agreed - on both counts.
The reason I'm asking is that someone claims that VT requires mask when skiing.
And that a recent email from Stowe confirmed that.

[Generalstark]

Pretty sticky and slow going, even above 4000’ but a great early season tour was still had. The objective:



Nice scenery along the way:



Slow sliding the sticky snow:




November snow is always a treat but rarely sticks around...


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[Core Shot]

Can’t understand why ppl see this as such an issue- stay in ur home state this year. Vermont does not need ur Covid Ass keeping our economy running. We’re doing fine with artisanal cheeses and beers, maple syrup and antiquing. .

Good luck with that

[Benny Profane]

Now that's a dynamic economy.

[iriponsnow]

Good luck with that

Bitch- if you’re going to quote me, don’t fabricate shit.

[retirwntm]

I’ll stay away for the skiing and beer but you’ll need to pry the antiquing out of my cold, dead, COVID hands.


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[FussyDutchman]

I’ll stay away for the skiing and beer but you’ll need to pry the antiquing out of my cold, dead, COVID hands.


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I'll send you the beer but you'll have to wait on the furniture [emoji41]

I will need jackstraw to send me some Swish just to get the shipping container back!

[Vt-Freeheel]

I’m a little pissed at myself for not skiing this morning.

I hear you there, mountain looked so nice at dawn yesterday which made me wish I was on the summit taking it in.



Dr. Douches lastest justification for his planned ignoring of the travel rules. Glad he isn't my Doc..

[akokskis]

man, this is gonna be a fun year


still, skiing is FUN!

[buttahflake]

I fucking hate skiers

[yellofin]

I fucking hate skiers

Care to explain

[buttahflake]

The fucking entitlement dude, the corporate bullshit, the small co-op smugness, the fucks who leave skis in the lift line on a pow day, the cunts who wear spandex on Hagans, all the players bother the fuck out of me. I miss the 70’s. Skiing in jeans with a bota filled with blackberry brandy and some shitty Mexican ditch weed.
Pete Townshend was right.

[Timberridge]

What's with the potty mouth? There's no need for that here.

[buttahflake]

You forgot to switch your alias, ecmod.

[Peruvian]

The fucking entitlement dude, the corporate bullshit, the small co-op smugness, the fucks who leave skis in the lift line on a pow day, the cunts who wear spandex on Hagans, all the players bother the fuck out of me. I miss the 70’s. Skiing in jeans with a bota filled with blackberry brandy and some shitty Mexican ditch weed.
Pete Townshend was right.

I wouldn’t mind if it snowed like it was the early 70s again.

[Greenstateofmind]

I hear you there, mountain looked so nice at dawn yesterday which made me wish I was on the summit taking it in.



Dr. Douches lastest justification for his planned ignoring of the travel rules. Glad he isn't my Doc..

How does one have the energy? Benny, get off the bench and get in there

[yellofin]

The fucking entitlement dude, the corporate bullshit, the small co-op smugness, the fucks who leave skis in the lift line on a pow day, the cunts who wear spandex on Hagans, all the players bother the fuck out of me. I miss the 70’s. Skiing in jeans with a bota filled with blackberry brandy and some shitty Mexican ditch weed.
Pete Townshend was right.

Well said and I do agree.
I had ski poles that I filled with brandy and smoked a lot of cheap weed.
I also miss those days, but I still love riding up on the single and will be there next year because I have to.

[yellofin]

What's with the potty mouth? There's no need for that here.

You are not as funny as you think you are.
In the words of a true mag
Take a lap beater

[Timberridge]

For the record. I'm not ecmod. But I'm a fan.

You are not as funny as you think you are.
In the words of a true mag
Take a lap beater

Ok jello dick.