Wagon Stoke

[Gcooker]

Couldn't you just buy a $20 OBD2 scanner and clear codes seconds before the test? Usually takes a few duty cycles for the CEL to pop.

[gravitylover]

Couldn't you just buy a $20 OBD2 scanner and clear codes seconds before the test? Usually takes a few duty cycles for the CEL to pop.

Depends on the state, here in NY it needs to go at least 50 miles with no codes or it fails automatically.

[shroom]

[gregL]

Owned 5 Volvos; been there many times.

[ThreeRidges]

Depends on the state, here in NY it needs to go at least 50 miles with no codes or it fails automatically.

Hypothetically, for a 96 toyota, you can unhook the battery and the emission code will clear, drive it around a bit and head to state inspection.




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[gravitylover]

For obd probably but not for obd2, it logs miles since last reset.

[bad dancer]

Looking at a 2006-07 volvo v50 for about 4k cad. Its pretty mint and immaculate.

Has 178 km but......and its a big but, a new motor was put into it with 165 km on the motor.
Called the dealer and was told that she did not get the timing belt changed with the new motor. Just a swap.
Could not find in the history if it has been done or not. It recommended that it be changed at 190 or ten years.

Someone please talk me into or out of this car. My emotional quotient "EQ" says buy it but my "FQ" financial quotient says don't.

My other option is a a 04 outback with 220 km and a new timing belt just done for $3500

[BmillsSkier]

New Panamera came out and they did a very nice job on the Sport Turismo, which is Stuttgart-speak for station wagon:

[Gcooker]

Looking at a 2006-07 volvo v50 for about 4k cad. Its pretty mint and immaculate.

Has 178 km but......and its a big but, a new motor was put into it with 165 km on the motor.
Called the dealer and was told that she did not get the timing belt changed with the new motor. Just a swap.
Could not find in the history if it has been done or not. It recommended that it be changed at 190 or ten years.

Someone please talk me into or out of this car. My emotional quotient "EQ" says buy it but my "FQ" financial quotient says don't.

My other option is a a 04 outback with 220 km and a new timing belt just done for $3500

That's stupid that they didn't slap on a new timing belt before putting the new (old) motor in. RUN

[simple]

If it is a refurbished engine (top and bottom) end it would have a new timing belt and a whole lot more.

Not everyone knows what a engine replacement entails

[snowaddict91]

That's stupid that they didn't slap on a new timing belt before putting the new (old) motor in. RUN

Gonna have to agree. What other shortcuts did they take?

Also, for resetting an obd2 vehicle before an emissions test, the scanner needs to see the systems as "ready." To accomplish this, a certain number of start-ups and miles (and maybe other parameters) need to be met.

[Ted Striker]

My other option is a a 04 outback with 220 km and a new timing belt just done for $3500

Auto or manual? (both have issues)

Have the head gaskets been done? (EJ25 head gaskets tend to leak externally) If there's any coolant on the engine, or if oil is leaking from the head gaskets, walk.

That motor tends to leak oil from other locations as well (which isn't necessarily a deal breaker IMO)

The frameless windows on that gen suck, and the apex seals at the side mirrors get messed up by idiots using the window to close the doors. That leads to a lot of wind noise when driving at highway speeds.

Cargo space is pretty good for those years. Not as good as the previous gen, but way better than the new ones.

Check to see if the heated windshield is still installed. It works surprisingly well.

Carefully inspect the rear hatch seal. When it leaks water collects in the spare tire and in the rear quarters. Same goes for the rear window seal (where water will also collect in the liftgate itself). Same goes for the tail light gaskets (sometimes you can see water in the tail lights themselves - or evidence that water was in there - green moss, sludge, etc)

[bad dancer]

Ok V50 update.

Just found out that the timing belt and water pump was indeed replaced in 2018 with receipts.
So I have a new motor, seals, belt and pump. Mint car, spare set of snow tires, all service records.
I just can’t for the life of me understand how a motor goes at 175 km when all the regular service has been done.
She said there was a cracked hose that caused the catastrophic meltdown.
Maybe she just didn’t realize it was overheating ?

Anyone have any real world issues with this car and or what to expect ?

As with internet investigations go, you can convince yourself to anything and always find the answer you want to here.

I am not a dentist. Both are reasonably cheap and would be foolish to think that there are no problems moving forward with any car that is 14 years old.

Thanks kids

[liv2ski]

Go to https://forums.swedespeed.com/forumd...0-(2005-2012)& and read

[simple]

I've replaced engines on a few cars now. Most failures are sudden and due to age. For a turbo engine they don't last long with low oil or coolant due to a leak. It happens. There is a V50 down the block from me with a blown engine and has sat for over 5 years. I've thought about fixing it but I have my own project in the works. Anyone want to guess how many bent valves it has?

[Gcooker]

I've replaced engines on a few cars now. Most failures are sudden and due to age. For a turbo engine they don't last long with low oil or coolant due to a leak. It happens. There is a V50 down the block from me with a blown engine and has sat for over 5 years. I've thought about fixing it but I have my own project in the works. Anyone want to guess how many bent valves it has?

Interference motor.... so 16?

[simple]

Non interference engine 3SGTE
My guess is 3

[fatnslow]

Ok V50 update.

Just found out that the timing belt and water pump was indeed replaced in 2018 with receipts.
So I have a new motor, seals, belt and pump. Mint car, spare set of snow tires, all service records.
I just can’t for the life of me understand how a motor goes at 175 km when all the regular service has been done.
She said there was a cracked hose that caused the catastrophic meltdown.
Maybe she just didn’t realize it was overheating ?

Anyone have any real world issues with this car and or what to expect ?

As with internet investigations go, you can convince yourself to anything and always find the answer you want to here.

I am not a dentist. Both are reasonably cheap and would be foolish to think that there are no problems moving forward with any car that is 14 years old.

Thanks kids

If it's a private party car you should have a ppi at a Volvo shop. Do you have any idea on the history of the replacement motor ? For all you know that motor has 300k if it came from a dismantler. They all claim under 80k miles in america. If you really want good opinions find a local Volvo shop and talk to th.about the v50's.
Anecdotaly speaking that era V50's all seem to be offered for well under $5k in Portland, quite a few need head gaskets or transmission work offered as mechanic specials. It could just be they were inexpensive and owners neglect quality/frequent oil and coolant service that leads to overheating or head gasket failures.
If you're going to owns 14 year old Volvo you should be prepared to fix some shit or it'll $500 repairs you to poverty.

[Gcooker]

Non interference engine 3SGTE
My guess is 3

Ahhhh gotcha, good luck with the rebuild.

[bad dancer]

If it's a private party car you should have a ppi at a Volvo shop. Do you have any idea on the history of the replacement motor ? For all you know that motor has 300k if it came from a dismantler. They all claim under 80k miles in america. If you really want good opinions find a local Volvo shop and talk to th.about the v50's.
Anecdotaly speaking that era V50's all seem to be offered for well under $5k in Portland, quite a few need head gaskets or transmission work offered as mechanic specials. It could just be they were inexpensive and owners neglect quality/frequent oil and coolant service that leads to overheating or head gasket failures.
If you're going to owns 14 year old Volvo you should be prepared to fix some shit or it'll $500 repairs you to poverty.

I did speak tot the dealer and the motor swap was a motor with 150k
She has done all service at dealer except for the last timing belt which was a private shop. I am ok with a wrench and have no problems fixing things myself. It s the big stuff I wont touch.
I think I will pull the trigger and roll the dice. Its a nice car and seems to have all the right work service done to it.
Thanks everyone ! Pics to follow

[simple]

Ahhhh gotcha, good luck with the rebuild.

Thanks! Going full replacement. Gen 1 3SGTE are not worth the rebuild. I have a used Gen 3 engine going in

[Art Shirk]

Ballard.

The guy who wrenches on my s4avant is just around the corner. Been towed by this place many times and then walked to get a Slooper-sized brew.

[Mazderati]

Thanks! Going full replacement. Gen 1 3SGTE are not worth the rebuild. I have a used Gen 3 engine going in

Fabled Toyota engine. Did I miss what it's going in?

[simple]

It isn't a wagon or a MR2

[BmillsSkier]

25 examples? That’s it?

2020 workin it again I guess.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ame...s6-nogaro-blue