Coronavirus complaint/commiseration thread.

[old goat]

My son’s bday was yesterday. Wife broadcast a drive-by party. No gifts, just honk and wave and say hi. I vocalized my concerns that we would be putting pressure on people and my doubts that anybody would even show up. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Tons of people showed up with signs, throwing small gifts and candy into the yard. Lots of kudos for the idea and thanks for an opportunity for the kids see each other and talk, even if at a distance. Sounds like we’ll be attending some of these ourselves in the near future now that the idea is out. Just a little thing, but the little things are pretty big these days.

Our friend had a drive by party a month ago. They live on a very narrow road. All their friends are old and drive big SUVs and people came from both directions. Talk about a shit show. But it was fun and he enjoyed it.

[Core Shot]

That's awesome.

My 14 y.o. Begged mom not to do the “lame” drive by party.

But I’ve seen it and it’s better than nothing. And not normal. But kids need to feel love on their birthday

[jono]

This is the part I struggle with though. These people could be making decisions that air on the side of caution (it's been a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things) but they aren't making empathetic choices. I'm not really scared of the the virus but with how much we don't know and the longer lasting effects that happen are what worries me. My partners daughter is high-risk so that affects my decision making but I'm not willing to throw caution to the wind and I don't think standard procedures like not having big get togethers, wearing masks or giving a correct phone number (the people outraged by this are fucking mouth breathers, that said they can also not go out to eat) are a bridge too far given what is going on.

I can't get the Slide Zone out of my head on this thing. Every fatality attracts the MMQB and the litany of (often meaningless) differences between any one commenter and the victim. It's been noted there that the attempt to differentiate and avoid empathy is a way to imagine the same thing can't happen to us. COVID is bringing that out in spades. And in people who have just never experienced this kind of shake to their psyche before it's both understandable and infuriating.

Your wife's a husky Latin hooker?

See? I knew I wouldn't have to spell it out for you guys. If only there was some recourse against pimps who won't protect their employees. Some federal office empowered to ensure occupational health and safety for the public good or a state licensure board or a wasn't run by most short-sighted of the pimps. I mean, really, who's looking out for the other pimps when these "workers" pass disease to the client pool and put actual men in danger? The pimps have to see these guys before they leave! And even if they can hire some other female type to handle the money and talk to them and aim the thermometer at their heads and all that, the pimps are still men and we all know men are at greater risk. Besides, as higher earners if we lose a pimp the cost to society is inherently greater. It just seems like a very modest proposal that the pimps should mind their own and enforce some basic safety so that one or two of them don't miss a payment on a jumbo loan or a boat. Because if 2008 taught us anything about contagion it was that we have to look out for the C-suites, the owners and the risk-takers who keep the world on its axis for us every day.

[AK47bp]

I can't get the Slide Zone out of my head on this thing. Every fatality attracts the MMQB and the litany of (often meaningless) differences between any one commenter and the victim. It's been noted there that the attempt to differentiate and avoid empathy is a way to imagine the same thing can't happen to us. COVID is bringing that out in spades. And in people who have just never experienced this kind of shake to their psyche before it's both understandable and infuriating.



See? I knew I wouldn't have to spell it out for you guys. If only there was some recourse against pimps who won't protect their employees. Some federal office empowered to ensure occupational health and safety for the public good or a state licensure board or a wasn't run by most short-sighted of the pimps. I mean, really, who's looking out for the other pimps when these "workers" pass disease to the client pool and put actual men in danger? The pimps have to see these guys before they leave! And even if they can hire some other female type to handle the money and talk to them and aim the thermometer at their heads and all that, the pimps are still men and we all know men are at greater risk. Besides, as higher earners if we lose a pimp the cost to society is inherently greater. It just seems like a very modest proposal that the pimps should mind their own and enforce some basic safety so that one or two of them don't miss a payment on a jumbo loan or a boat. Because if 2008 taught us anything about contagion it was that we have to look out for the C-suites, the owners and the risk-takers who keep the world on its axis for us every day.

Ugh, that’s rough man. I don’t know how you handle that emotionally let alone the safety issues.

New Zealand has some safety laws that maybe the industry can take some tips from their playbook


http://espu-usa.com/espu-ca/wp-conte...y-handbook.pdf


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[Flyoverland Captive]

Have you ever been to a backyard BBQ with your wife and you were the only straight couple? I have.

Yes; a few in fact. Fun group of friends from my time in St. Paul, mostly dudes. And a recent party (pre covid) here in OR that was mostly women. People are people, I don’t care who they are attracted to.

[jono]

Ugh, that’s rough man. I don’t know how you handle that emotionally let alone the safety issues.

New Zealand has some safety laws that maybe the industry can take some tips from their playbook


http://espu-usa.com/espu-ca/wp-conte...y-handbook.pdf

Ok that was hilarious. Well played, sir!

[AK47bp]

Ok that was hilarious. Well played, sir!

I was impressed when I found that NZ has a 100 page manual on sex industry protections and benefits. They get holiday pay, bereavement/maternity leave etc.

Slight thread drift.


Anywho.....


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[byates1]

[old goat]

I can't get the Slide Zone out of my head on this thing. Every fatality attracts the MMQB and the litany of (often meaningless) differences between any one commenter and the victim. It's been noted there that the attempt to differentiate and avoid empathy is a way to imagine the same thing can't happen to us. COVID is bringing that out in spades. And in people who have just never experienced this kind of shake to their psyche before it's both understandable and infuriating.



See? I knew I wouldn't have to spell it out for you guys. If only there was some recourse against pimps who won't protect their employees. Some federal office empowered to ensure occupational health and safety for the public good or a state licensure board or a wasn't run by most short-sighted of the pimps. I mean, really, who's looking out for the other pimps when these "workers" pass disease to the client pool and put actual men in danger? The pimps have to see these guys before they leave! And even if they can hire some other female type to handle the money and talk to them and aim the thermometer at their heads and all that, the pimps are still men and we all know men are at greater risk. Besides, as higher earners if we lose a pimp the cost to society is inherently greater. It just seems like a very modest proposal that the pimps should mind their own and enforce some basic safety so that one or two of them don't miss a payment on a jumbo loan or a boat. Because if 2008 taught us anything about contagion it was that we have to look out for the C-suites, the owners and the risk-takers who keep the world on its axis for us every day.

Since there's a Zappa thing in the other thread

[rod9301]

Absolutely, plain hotel rooms suck when you have kids, especially young ones. At minimum, having a door to close when the kid is sleeping is key.

I think the STR thing is great, and have no issues with it as a concept. But I do think it needs to be licensed, taxed, and regulated in many of the ways that hotels are. That will make them cost more and weed out some people from the business, and thus limit the number of STRs on the market, but that's part of the point. Because it's a little ridiculous that a 2 BR house can cost less than a hotel room, as if maid service and having a "front desk" was worth the difference in cost.

I hate staying in hotels.

And in the us, a lot of hotels are charging extra fees to everyone for using the pool, other facilities. These fees are not quoted in advance, surprise when you get there.

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[Core Shot]

Hey Karen. That mask is cutting off the oxygen to your brain.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/driver-cra...ry?id=70346532

[schindlerpiste]

[XXX-er]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...RmNwBft1UO0uYo

According to the latest research, about one in 20 Covid patients experience long-term on-off symptoms. It’s unclear whether long-term means two months, or three or longer

[LegoSkier]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...RmNwBft1UO0uYo

According to the latest research, about one in 20 Covid patients experience long-term on-off symptoms. It’s unclear whether long-term means two months, or three or longer

Yep. A former grad school professor of mine is going on i think his fifth week of on off symptoms. He's on supplemental oxygen at home. He's taken to calling covid "the gorilla" and how every once in a while the gorilla will come roaring back and smack him down.

[m2711c]

[Meathelmet]

Have you ever been to a backyard BBQ with your wife and you were the only straight couple? I have.

Sausage fest living up to its name, huh?

[wooley12]

I didn't feel any stranger than I do showing up in Lot 4.

[glademaster]

I didn't feel any stranger than I do showing up in Lot 4.

I hope there was less dog shit and public urination at the backyard BBQ you went to.

[muted]

Mine just turned 9. Had two Zoom birthday parties. This year he wanted a big park party. We did these over the years. Make sandwiches and snacks, bud a piñata together, invite every friend he has ever had, and get a group of 30-50 kids raging together. Then the virus and Zoom. He seems to be handling it well.

He is fully aware of the virus, and its outcomes. He is also learning about how some people don't believe it is a big deal, or just like the flu. Even at his age, he can read statistics better than a lot of adults and sees clearly that health workers are dying fro exposure, and knows it is not the same. He will socially distance himself when outside. He sees the neighborhood kids and plays in the streets. Has bike rides with friends, but is really missing his social life. Distance Learning is really hard. Asking him to look at a computer screen for 6 hours a day is really hard.

Kids are way more resilient than adults. At least the kids I know. Especially when I compare them to their parents. I feel like we are always winging it as parents. Now we are just winging on something that is completely new to us. Those hugs and kisses still will go a long way and kids will weather this better than most adults.

So he is adapting and that's great, he sounds like a bad-ass. My kids are adapting to their day-to-day also. I've talked about this 'kids are resilient' theory to a few people since you posted it though, it just seemed a bit simplified. What I learned or concluded from these talks is young kids don't have the tools emotionally from a developmental standpoint to be truly resilient or have the freedom, like an adult has, to make their own choices in order to weather this storm. So without adult help (as needed) young kids can't possibly do better than adults who are more emotionally prepared and have many tools/solutions at their disposal. (alcohol!) Will some kids be fine by themselves? Sure. All these kids will be changed in some ways after this.

What happens to your kid if you get sick? What happens to my 6 year old if her Nana dies? Things could get more complicated for them and for us. I'm not sitting up mulling this over, I'm the least stressed guy you will ever meet, but I'm saying, again, check yer kids, watch for stress signs, and hope the bubble we are in stays inflated. Because young kids can be resilient only to a point, and yeah you are totally spot-on with saying, now I think about it, that hugs and kisses do help a shitload.

[XXX-er]

Have you ever been to a backyard BBQ with your wife and you were the only straight couple? I have.

Were they just boring gay couples?

Face book has 58 different gender options

[Sluff]

My favorite restaurant closed. Damn it. RIP Pazzaluna.

[seano732]

My favorite restaurant closed. Damn it. RIP Pazzaluna.

Vibes. That sucks..... More coming I’m sure.

[Name Redacted]

My favorite restaurant closed. Damn it. RIP Pazzaluna.

Yup, one of our favorites is up for sale/closed. Knowing the owner, we thought if anyone could make that shitty location work, it was him, and he was making a pretty good run at it. Unfortunately the 'Rona took it out.

I just take consolation in that in the long run, this situation will filter out a lot of our shitty but long standing restauranteurs who have just skated by on the tourist teat for all these years and hopefully some new blood comes in to revive our restaurant scene. Unfortunately, it'll probably just open the window for a bunch of chain restaurants.

[Benny Profane]

You have to wonder if all these failed restaraunts just won't pop back at the right time. It's not as though these spaces are going to be rented to anybody else in the short term depression. So, the thought may be, shut it down, stop the money drain, and start it all back up when the time is right. It's a pretty unstable startup situation anyway, with a really bad failure rate. I think that most die within the first year or two. Sure, the chains could survive, but that's a market real money scoffs at, and real money is what will survive, as usual. That real money that survived all this will be chomping at the bit to back a cool place to eat and drink locally.

[wooley12]

Were they just boring gay couples?

Face book has 58 different gender options

I passed on looking at the photos another couple took on their trip to Thailand. The Bering Sea fishing boat captain had dome stories to tell and an interesting way of telling them.

Restaurants have had a hard time ever since the majority of the customers started paying with plastic. Made it much harder to cook...............the books.