Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

**glademaster** · 05-03-2020, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Lone Star

True dat. I hear if we all just talk about rainbows and unicorns we can cut the R value of this bugger in half.

Coffee on my screen from that one. I was getting all excited to post some snarky response to skiball's moronic drivel, but I was beaten to the punch.

**skiballs** · 05-03-2020, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lone Star

True dat. I hear if we all just talk about rainbows and unicorns we can cut the R value of this bugger in half.

Hi Karen, hope you have a nice day.

**skiballs** · 05-03-2020, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Coffee on my screen from that one. I was getting all excited to post some snarky response to skiball's moronic drivel, but I was beaten to the punch.

Hi Karen's son, hope you have a nice day.

**wooley12** · 05-03-2020, 07:59 AM

It's tough on everyone. So I'll give a pass. We used to believe we measured our country on how we took care of the weakest. Now some would rather gas them. f
Figuratively of course.

**zion zig zag** · 05-03-2020, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by KQ

Life will never be the same. Our nation is broken. So sad.

After employees receive threats, one city is forced to nix rule requiring face masks in businesses

There is a big sign at the front door of the local Costco that states everyone in the store must wear a mask. About half of the people walking in had no mask, and the employee standing there didn't say a word. Not sure why they have a policy posted if they clearly aren't enforcing it.

**glademaster** · 05-03-2020, 08:20 AM

Why should that employee risk getting coughed on or physically/verbally assaulted by a member of the deplorable class who refuses to wear a mask for the whopping $9.50 an hour they're being paid to stand there?

**zion zig zag** · 05-03-2020, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Why should that employee risk getting coughed on or physically/verbally assaulted by a member of the deplorable class who refuses to wear a mask for the whopping $9.50 an hour they're being paid to stand there?

Why have the sign?

**jono** · 05-03-2020, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Why should that employee risk getting coughed on or physically/verbally assaulted by a member of the deplorable class who refuses to wear a mask for the whopping $9.50 an hour they're being paid to stand there?

Time to start walking in with a mask on and leaving the card in the pocket.

**Ottime** · 05-03-2020, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Why should that employee risk getting coughed on or physically/verbally assaulted by a member of the deplorable class who refuses to wear a mask for the whopping $9.50 an hour they're being paid to stand there?

At least around here, Costco pays much better than that.

They have no problem turning away undressed mounted around here. No face covering, no service. Even the few MAGA looks around here know if you want to get inside, cover the face hole.

**glademaster** · 05-03-2020, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Why have the sign?

Could be a CYA/liability thing for Costco? Not sure how liability is going to play out with all of this, but it seems like it could be something along those lines.

Originally Posted by Ottime

They have no problem turning away undressed mounted around here. No face covering, no service. Even the few MAGA looks around here know if you want to get inside, cover the face hole.

And up here in a suburb of Seattle, I couldn't buy 5 single bottles of craft beer yesterday because the cashier insisted that I take my mask off to prove that I was the person on my ID when I got to the register.

I told her I wasn't willing to, since I had just been walking around the store handling things.

**Lone Star** · 05-03-2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by skiballs

Hi Karen, hope you have a nice day.

lighten up, snowflake

**zion zig zag** · 05-03-2020, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Could be a CYA/liability thing for Costco? Not sure how liability is going to play out with all of this, but it seems like it could be something along those lines.

Yeah, I could see that angle. My other observation on masks: half of those "wearing" masks don't seem to grasp the concept. Constantly with their fingers under it, pulling it down to talk to people, etc.

**Core Shot** · 05-03-2020, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by glademaster

Could be a CYA/liability thing for Costco? Not sure how liability is going to play out with all of this, but it seems like it could be something along those lines.

And up here in a suburb of Seattle, I couldn't buy 5 single bottles of beer yesterday because the cashier insisted that I take my mask off to prove that I was the person on my ID when I got to the register. I told her I wasn't willing to, since I had just been walking around the store handling things.

Cash is still king.
Drop cash on counter. Walk out with beer.
Let them call the cops. Who wont do anything.

**glademaster** · 05-03-2020, 08:42 AM

Wow. You know, you really are an asshole. She refused to ring them up, but because I've worked retail/service sector jobs, I have a little more respect for the people doing those shitty jobs than you clearly do.

I was annoyed by it, but I wasn't rude to the cashier. I told her that I wasn't going to touch my face, but I did have two forms of gov't issued photo ID with me, and that if she didn't want to sell me the beer, I would be happy to just but the other items I had and be on my way.

She's following an idiotic policy because she doesn't want to jeopardize her job so some bearded dufus can drink bougie microbrew as he "shelters in place" while she's out there interacting with 100 strangers a shift.

**jono** · 05-03-2020, 08:44 AM

Yesterday I went for a ride on a formerly quiet, litter-free local trail. Bouncing along with a jingling bare bell, I came around a corner to see a young lady squatting not 4 feet from the side of the trail, unable to move. Must have been urgent because she had to have heard me. As I came into view she threw both hands over her face. Bet she wished she'd worn a mask.

**Ottime** · 05-03-2020, 08:51 AM

The fuck?

Trails are more crowded these days but no turd droppers.

**Name Redacted** · 05-03-2020, 08:53 AM

Noam lays it out like only Noam can:
https://truthout.org/articles/chomsk...-failed-state/

**The SnowShow** · 05-03-2020, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by jono

Yesterday I went for a ride on a formerly quiet, litter-free local trail. Bouncing along with a jingling bare bell, I came around a corner to see a young lady squatting not 4 feet from the side of the trail, unable to move. Must have been urgent because she had to have heard me. As I came into view she threw both hands over her face. Bet she wished she'd worn a mask.

Hot. Didn’t take a video?

**Casey E** · 05-03-2020, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Name Redacted

Noam lays it out like only Noam can:
https://truthout.org/articles/chomsk...-failed-state/

Some humor from Latin America

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Going back to work? These guys never stop...

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**jono** · 05-03-2020, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ottime

The fuck?

Trails are more crowded these days but no turd droppers.

I didn't actually ask if it was 1 or 2. Her friends were all waiting for her below the next switchback, so she'd managed to get a little social distance from them, but how she settled on that spot in all the wooded terrain I'll never know. Brains atrophy, too, I guess.

**mall walker** · 05-03-2020, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by jono

Yesterday I went for a ride on a formerly quiet, litter-free local trail. Bouncing along with a jingling bare bell, I came around a corner to see a young lady squatting not 4 feet from the side of the trail, unable to move. Must have been urgent because she had to have heard me. As I came into view she threw both hands over her face. Bet she wished she'd worn a mask.

just pissing, or leaving a steamer?

e: ^ ah I see. I can totally see taking a quick piss and gambling nobody will come down the trail while you're going... but if it's number two...

**LeeLau** · 05-03-2020, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by subtle plague

From a European perspective the comparison makes sense.

Absolutely

**DougW** · 05-03-2020, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by huckbucket

Re-read Multiverse's post from a few pages ago:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...87#post5974487

He's right. Herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine would be a loss, plain and simple. Easily 1MM people could die on our way to 60% infected. Obviously that number could be worse if we don't rush to spread and immunize naturally, but the BEST path is to continue to slow the spread as much as possible among everyone until we have a vaccine.

Maybe your right. But I would not capitalize even the word maybe as its too definite at the present time. Alot of smart people on both sides of the Swedish / total lockdown debate. I certainly see Old Goats position as it is very close to my own but I don't have a lot of faith in my own position. I was just pointing out that in the Swedish model the nursing home thing didn't work out was planned. In 12-18 months time we will all see what was the best approach. Even the Swedes see eventual herd immunity as just a byproduct of their approach. The more I learn about this the more the worst case gets worse and the range of uncertainly gets larger. Or maybe the TGR experts are just so pessimistic.

**jono** · 05-03-2020, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by mall walker

just pissing, or leaving a steamer?

e: ^ ah I see. I can totally see taking a quick piss and gambling nobody will come down the trail while you're going... but if it's number two...

I'm just glad I managed not to crash. Although that might have been a perfect response in the long run.

My wife was behind me and apparently her wits worked better--she's just related their conservation now: "Need a potty break?" "Yeeaaah" 10 seconds later: "Anyone else need a potty break?" Laughter.

We're guessing this group is in violation of our state's 14-day visitor quarantine. But we're smug locals, so who knows.