Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[The AD]

Agreed, but the same can be said for the Flu where not everyone that gets it is accounted for, right? Somehow we trust those figures of mortality rates for the flu wholeheartedly enough to draw a comparison with Covid to illustrate one's point one way or the other.

Yeah, but there's a huge amount of data from a long period of time for the flu. I trust those numbers a heck of a lot more than the numbers we have right now for COVID-19.

[Benny Profane]

Not sure how I feel about it’s removal given all the bullshit YouTube doesn’t remove. Not because of censorship per se, but because most of my redhat friends had already been singing the praises of the trumpdoc video or at least knew about it. it’s removal just launched them into a conspiracy frenzy. The damage was kinda done already and the deletion reinvigorated them. I lean toward it was prob the right thing to do though now.

Taibbi used to be a decent journo, now he writes everything w his smug cunt spin while pretending to be seeing both sides of an issue. He’s garbage peddler and him latching onto the censorship aspect of the Bako story is typical of him. If he thinks the vid shouldn’t have been removed, removing it was most likely the right choice.

Instead of attacking him on such a base level, tell me why his musings offend you. Be critical.

[Bunion 2020]

Taibbi used to be a decent journo, now he writes everything w his smug cunt spin while pretending to be seeing both sides of an issue. He’s garbage peddler and him latching onto the censorship aspect of the Bako story is typical of him. If he thinks the vid shouldn’t have been removed, removing it was most likely the right choice.

And no surprise another smug cunt wants to know why Taibbi has turned into a joke.

[Bunion 2020]

We can start by not willingly handing over our lives' minute by minute details via contact tracing apps. Simple enough, right?

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Didn't that bird fly when the 1st Smartphones rolled out?

[Mazderati]

How? Because it’s harder to make money on the quantifiable and rational. It’s much easier to be a bullshitter with a brand. That runs from Trump to GOOP.

And goes back to the origin of contemporary America. See Salem witch trials.

[Deebased]

500 Million sounds high. 1% die of COVID. How many more die of heat attacks, strokes, cancer, etc that goes untreated as the world soon out of control with first hospitals crashing, then economies and finally governments? How many die forms eh violence that ensues? Have you not watched the Walking Dead?

half a percent fatality rate that's primarily 65+ isn't going to prompt the walking dead but broken food supply chains sure as hell will.

[altacoup]

H.L. Mencken once said that in America, “the general average of intelligence, of knowledge, of competence, of integrity, of self-respect, of honor is so low that any man who knows his trade, does not fear ghosts, has read fifty good books, and practices the common decencies stands out as brilliantly as a wart on a bald head.”

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/tempor...rus-censorship

Not having been educated in the US, how did your education system fall so low? Ghosts, creationism, climate change hoax, Trump. Probably should shore up critical thinking skills and readin writin ‘n rithmetic, and less on exceptionalism myths. Could take a couple of generations tho.

Well since at least Reagan but also before one of our political parties has been steadfast in its determination to starve the government. They’ve used divisive politics (guns, gays, religion, etc.) to hoodwink half of the country. All the while pushing the wealth created by workers into the hands of the “job creators”. It’s basically a push back towards feudalism/slavery. The boomers in have voted time and again not to pay their fare share of taxes, but rest assured they’ll be wanting all the benefits of social security and Medicare. This country is on a serious down slide. Most working class people are anti union after decades of being fed bullshit from the press. The only way to take it back from the “job creators “ is to organize. They’ve succeeded in dividing. We need to fight back by uniting. Happy May Day!

[Deebased]

all the fucktards on here with the democracy is going to end because of corona is such a fucking stupid fucking arch type that camouflages a basic fear of change due to social forces that they fear are going to marginalize them

Replace Democracy with protecting their own Boomer "I got mine so fuck you" etiquette while pretending its empathy and you've hit the nail on the head.

[Benny Profane]

Well since at least Reagan but also before one of our political parties has been steadfast in its determination to starve the government. They’ve used divisive politics (guns, gays, religion, etc.) to hoodwink half of the country. All the while pushing the wealth created by workers into the hands of the “job creators”. It’s basically a push back towards feudalism/slavery. The boomers in have voted time and again not to pay their fare share of taxes, but rest assured they’ll be wanting all the benefits of social security and Medicare. This country is on a serious down slide. Most working class people are anti union after decades of being fed bullshit from the press. The only way to take it back from the “job creators “ is to organize. They’ve succeeded in dividing. We need to fight back by uniting. Happy May Day!

You're another one who has been hoodwinked into thinking it's just one of our political parties behind this.

[Skidog]

Didn't that bird fly when the 1st Smartphones rolled out?

those are opt in opt out...the discussions in some circles have been tracking programs could be mandatory. They are in places like SK.

[wooley12]

We can start by not willingly handing over our lives' minute by minute details via contact tracing apps. Simple enough, right?

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The world is not simple, cupcake. That's what I tell my grandkids and they get it that they don't get it.

[Deebased]

Didn't that bird fly when the 1st Smartphones rolled out?

Bingo, that Bird flu in 99 under the auspices of safety (sound familiar) . https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=6097216

now the feds are finally being honest about using that data.

[altacoup]

No I’m just realistic in our current two choice system that one offers a better chance to a better future than the other. I’ve been involved in left wing politics way before the Bernie movement. I’ve states I support his goals but don’t see his methods as working. He would’ve done much better as a labor organizer than a politician. Same goes for Nader. If either of them would’ve done grassroots organizing on the local/ state level they would’ve accomplished much more in furtherance of their goals that their quixotic goal of being president.

[CarlMega]

Did anyone reasonable ever think China was not lying? The rest of the world fucked up too. They wanted to take China at their word so they would have to do nothing to prepare. And they did nothing too prepare as this thing speed. Well, South Korea and Hong Kong did. But they are not run by a Baffin and know to never take China at its word.

Seriously. It's ridiculous perch from which to cry: "it's not fair!". When was China ever considered a good-faith actor? Never. Our government's job isn't to take China at it's word, it was to protect it's citizens and foundational elements. That means treating any and all intelligence and foreign information as suspect and applying policy, through competent execution, that is focused on our welfare - mitigating risk, uncertainty, known threats, etc. That's the fucking job.

all the fucktards on here with the democracy is going to end because of corona is such a fucking stupid fucking arch type that camouflages a basic fear of change due to social forces that they fear are going to marginalize them

I find this to be accurate^

[mall walker]

those are opt in opt out...the discussions in some circles have been tracking programs could be mandatory. They are in places like SK.

the GPS ones are a joke (like Utah's app). GPS doesn't work for shit indoors, nowhere close to well enough to determine whether you're within exposure distance to another person. it is especially fallible in large buildings (supermarkets, offices, restaurants, etc) which is of course where it's actually needed. it does however surrender intimate privacy details to, in UT's case, gary herbert and the mormon church.

the google/apple whitepapers described a bluetooth based protocol that was fairly privacy-first I thought. I guess not all parts of europe felt it was sufficiently respectful of privacy, but it's a fucking far cry better than a GPS based "solution"

[altacoup]

I was arrested at the WTO protests in Seattle. While you were gaming the stock market! City slicker bourgeois

[wooley12]

Th slippery slope that concerns me is the government, trumpsters and some of the posters here think I should die for the economic benefit of Fatherland. Slippery slope. Buchenwald is next? Not the camp, just the results.

[Ted Striker]

Not having been educated in the US, how did your education system fall so low? Ghosts, creationism, climate change hoax, Trump. Probably should shore up critical thinking skills and readin writin ‘n rithmetic, and less on exceptionalism myths. Could take a couple of generations tho.

[Benny Profane]

No I’m just realistic in our current two choice system that one offers a better chance to a better future than the other. I’ve been involved in left wing politics way before the Bernie movement. I’ve states I support his goals but don’t see his methods as working. He would’ve done much better as a labor organizer than a politician. Same goes for Nader. If either of them would’ve done grassroots organizing on the local/ state level they would’ve accomplished much more in furtherance of their goals that their quixotic goal of being president.

Two choices? Did I miss something? A corrupt old senile rapist vs another corrupt old senile rapist. That's the choice?

[Deebased]

Th slippery slope that concerns me is the government, trumpsters and some of the posters here think I should die for the economic benefit of Fatherland. Slippery slope. Buchenwald is next? Not the camp, just the results.

And you think that your small chance of dying should reduce life expectancy, education, Quality of life and wealth expectations for millions of others.

Another "I've got mine so fuck you" #boomerism

[altacoup]

Two choices? Did I miss something? A corrupt old senile rapist vs another corrupt old senile rapist. That's the choice?

Might not be the best but it’s that the choices we’ve got. You can decide for yourself how you vote. But continually playing into the GOP’s ploy of dividing us as you are prone to doing isn’t going to help

[Benny Profane]

Might not be the best but it’s that the choices we’ve got. You can decide for yourself how you vote. But continually playing into the GOP’s ploy of dividing us as you are prone to doing isn’t going to help

Are you even aware that Nancy Pelosi is worth more than 100 million dollars?

And sure as shit didn't get there by working for it.

[wooley12]

So what?

[Skidog]

Might not be the best but it’s that the choices we’ve got. You can decide for yourself how you vote. But continually playing into the GOP’s ploy of dividing us as you are prone to doing isn’t going to help

im waiting to see if other states cancel primaries. I think NY was a big deal, why wouldnt they want Joe to have those delegates if he's "the guy". Maybe a coup? Ill hold out hope. Far reach but......

[Benny Profane]

So what?

Jezuz h Krist.