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Thread: Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    BEIGE ! IT WAS BEIGE!!!
    ah ffs I was about to delete that cause I’m late... this thread is moving at twitter speed.

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    GF sister’s take today . She is very successful at business and a CCP member. RMB is at the low end of its range and Chinese yield curve is steep. She is real nice lady fwiw:

    “After the G20, the West paid more attention to the economy. The economy of China stood at 5000 billion yuan and did not have a more positive performance on epidemic prevention. This made China see through the true attitude and ability of Western countries, and strengthened self-protection measures. First, to protect national security and significantly reduce the number of people entering the country. The second is to protect national assets, slow down trade and reduce physical exports.
    Why is that?
    When an outbreak occurs in a country for a long time without effective prevention and treatment, the country's personnel isolation, production stagnation, rapid consumption of stocks of goods, And desperately cut interest rates, printing money to carry out the so-called economic stimulus, is in fact the use of paper money to plunder physical assets, when the stock of goods in society is extremely scarce, inflation, paper money cheap as toilet paper, the same power currency. If it is an international currency, it is the physical assets of other producing countries that are plundered. The foreign exchange (international currency) exchanged by the producing country has no purchase value in the country in which the currency is issued because of the epidemic, food, clothing, housing, entertainment and travel, zero interest rates have been depreciating, and holders have suffered big losses. Similar to the euro, the dollar, the pound, the Swiss dollar, are such currencies, gradually power currency.
    Therefore, China understands, which country's epidemic situation is not cured, which country's currency power currency, China should no longer take goods in kind to exchange for the same power currency foreign exchange. Build a high wall, accumulate food, self-circulation, to ensure that the loss of wealth, waiting to barter or the internationalization of the RMB.
    Such a move by China, estimated within a week, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, Indonesia and other commodity-producing countries will also take similar measures to close. We all know, who take kind for power money, who S ratio. The U.S. issued an additional $1900 billion this month, as did the European Union and the Japanese yen. With the world printing money to tide over the crisis, it is important where the renminbi goes. If you don't, the RMB will offset the inflation of other currencies, and the loss will still be yours. So China is playing very hard now, not cutting interest rates, but, RMB bilateral settlement. Buy my things, either in kind, or take RMB, U.S. dollars I do not... There are tall people in my country!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    yes, they were called traitors

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    GF sister’s take today . She is very successful at business and a CCP member. RMB is at the low end of its range and Chinese yield curve is steep. She is real nice lady fwiw:

    “After the G20, the West paid more attention to the economy. The economy of China stood at 5000 billion yuan and did not have a more positive performance on epidemic prevention. This made China see through the true attitude and ability of Western countries, and strengthened self-protection measures. First, to protect national security and significantly reduce the number of people entering the country. The second is to protect national assets, slow down trade and reduce physical exports.
    Why is that?
    When an outbreak occurs in a country for a long time without effective prevention and treatment, the country's personnel isolation, production stagnation, rapid consumption of stocks of goods, And desperately cut interest rates, printing money to carry out the so-called economic stimulus, is in fact the use of paper money to plunder physical assets, when the stock of goods in society is extremely scarce, inflation, paper money cheap as toilet paper, the same power currency. If it is an international currency, it is the physical assets of other producing countries that are plundered. The foreign exchange (international currency) exchanged by the producing country has no purchase value in the country in which the currency is issued because of the epidemic, food, clothing, housing, entertainment and travel, zero interest rates have been depreciating, and holders have suffered big losses. Similar to the euro, the dollar, the pound, the Swiss dollar, are such currencies, gradually power currency.
    Therefore, China understands, which country's epidemic situation is not cured, which country's currency power currency, China should no longer take goods in kind to exchange for the same power currency foreign exchange. Build a high wall, accumulate food, self-circulation, to ensure that the loss of wealth, waiting to barter or the internationalization of the RMB.
    Such a move by China, estimated within a week, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, Indonesia and other commodity-producing countries will also take similar measures to close. We all know, who take kind for power money, who S ratio. The U.S. issued an additional $1900 billion this month, as did the European Union and the Japanese yen. With the world printing money to tide over the crisis, it is important where the renminbi goes. If you don't, the RMB will offset the inflation of other currencies, and the loss will still be yours. So China is playing very hard now, not cutting interest rates, but, RMB bilateral settlement. Buy my things, either in kind, or take RMB, U.S. dollars I do not... There are tall people in my country!”
    huh? .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    GF sister’s take today .

    Thanks. I was going to ask you for some of those at the very beginning of the thread but didn’t want to put you on the spot. Feel free to post all of those you want. I’m currently talking via dating app to about 30 women from around the planet getting input from all these various points of view. Have to take it with a lot of grains of tequila, but still interesting. Several Asian, a few African, several Europe (one German woman super defiant nothing had changed an iota in her life!) a few in South America. Brazil is nervous. I didn’t realize how segmented Africa is beyond South Africa. 1 in Turkey but no one in India. Last I looked India was calling low percentage test pos but don’t think they are testing the at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    the words you are looking for are “jobs creator”

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    GF sister’s take today . She is very successful at business and a CCP member. RMB is at the low end of its range and Chinese yield curve is steep. She is real nice lady fwiw:

    “After the G20, the West paid more attention to the economy. The economy of China stood at 5000 billion yuan and did not have a more positive performance on epidemic prevention. This made China see through the true attitude and ability of Western countries, and strengthened self-protection measures. First, to protect national security and significantly reduce the number of people entering the country. The second is to protect national assets, slow down trade and reduce physical exports.
    Why is that?
    When an outbreak occurs in a country for a long time without effective prevention and treatment, the country's personnel isolation, production stagnation, rapid consumption of stocks of goods, And desperately cut interest rates, printing money to carry out the so-called economic stimulus, is in fact the use of paper money to plunder physical assets, when the stock of goods in society is extremely scarce, inflation, paper money cheap as toilet paper, the same power currency. If it is an international currency, it is the physical assets of other producing countries that are plundered. The foreign exchange (international currency) exchanged by the producing country has no purchase value in the country in which the currency is issued because of the epidemic, food, clothing, housing, entertainment and travel, zero interest rates have been depreciating, and holders have suffered big losses. Similar to the euro, the dollar, the pound, the Swiss dollar, are such currencies, gradually power currency.
    Therefore, China understands, which country's epidemic situation is not cured, which country's currency power currency, China should no longer take goods in kind to exchange for the same power currency foreign exchange. Build a high wall, accumulate food, self-circulation, to ensure that the loss of wealth, waiting to barter or the internationalization of the RMB.
    Such a move by China, estimated within a week, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, Indonesia and other commodity-producing countries will also take similar measures to close. We all know, who take kind for power money, who S ratio. The U.S. issued an additional $1900 billion this month, as did the European Union and the Japanese yen. With the world printing money to tide over the crisis, it is important where the renminbi goes. If you don't, the RMB will offset the inflation of other currencies, and the loss will still be yours. So China is playing very hard now, not cutting interest rates, but, RMB bilateral settlement. Buy my things, either in kind, or take RMB, U.S. dollars I do not... There are tall people in my country!”
    A Chinese person looking inward and shunning the west - no surprise there

    Not that we are any better

    There was a time when our country stood for free trade - those days are over


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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    This is a pretty difficult concept to understand...
    shouldn’t be for any follower of Christ. like a real one. Follower, not Christ himself. Although he would be amused at his flock.
    Last edited by Lvovsky; 04-16-2020 at 08:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Escaped from a lab? Trevor Bedford has an opinion (from Feb)

    https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1230634136102064128
    My answer to the Chinese germ warfare theory people is: So then, why were we so badly prepared? I mean, sure, general health is the responsibility of the Invisible Hand in this country (and, turns out, the Invisible Hand doesn't give a fuck), but if this was a calculated attack, then it was up to the Department of Defense to anticipate it, and to prepare for it. And we do have a very, very well funded Department of Defense, with "intelligence" responsibilities, and massive budgets for materials to be used in response to even the most remotely unlikely kinds of attacks on us. So still, blowing this pandemic worse than nearly all other countries in the world is very much our country's failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    My answer to the Chinese germ warfare theory people is: So then, why were we so badly prepared? I mean, sure, general health is the responsibility of the Invisible Hand in this country (and, turns out, the Invisible Hand doesn't give a fuck), but if this was a calculated attack, then it was up to the Department of Defense to anticipate it, and to prepare for it. And we do have a very, very well funded Department of Defense, with "intelligence" responsibilities, and massive budgets for materials to be used in response to even the most remotely unlikely kinds of attacks on us. So still, blowing this pandemic worse than nearly all other countries in the world is very much our country's failure.


    It’s not an answer, it’s a different, and valid subject.
    Where are you reading warfare though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    India was calling low percentage test pos but don’t think they are testing the at risk.
    India quietly took measures early and escalated. I think they will surprise everyone and be low

    Sister was correct in reading the debt market. China hasn’t take stimulus measures yet. Keeping powder dry. They could always sell treasury and get paid in dollars.

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    That would be great if India did well.
    Horrible stories of starving mass exodus of the workers from cities though.
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    IMF calling for zero percent gain GNP in Asia 2020

    https://blogs.imf.org/2020/04/15/cov...nce-the-1960s/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Hey, cut that out Actually my wife has been quite the baker while we've been in this predicament. We've had three different fruit coffee cakes, a couple of batches of Passover cookies and a cake, a birthday cake and right now she's finishing a chocolate cheesecake.


    Yum! Those cookies are amazing. Major chocolate going on there. I use Hershey's Special Dark Cocoa and Baker's Bittersweet Chocolate. If you're anal like me you can weigh them when you're dividing the dough (makes them all cook the same). Each raw cookie is 1.95oz .

    I only do one cookie sheet at time.



    CHEWY CHOCOLATE COOKIES

    Makes 16 cookies.

    WHY THIS RECIPE WORKS:
    We wanted an exceptionally rich chocolate cookie recipe with a sturdy, not crumbly, texture. The fat in melted chocolate made our dough too soft, so we replaced the chocolate with cocoa powder. Eliminating egg yolks further improved the structure of the cookies. For chewiness, we replaced some of the white sugar in our chocolate cookie recipe with brown sugar and added dark corn syrup. Adding bits of bittersweet chocolate to the dough gave us extra chocolate flavor without compromising the texture we had worked so hard to achieve.
    We recommend using the test kitchen’s favorite baking chocolate, Callebaut Intense Dark L-60-40NV, but any high- quality dark, bittersweet, or semisweet chocolate will work. Light brown sugar can be substituted for the dark, as can light corn syrup for the dark, but with some sacrifice in flavor. A spring-loaded ice cream scoop (size #30) can be used to portion the dough.


    INGREDIENTS
    • 1/3cup even more sugar granulated sugar (about 2 1/2 ounces), plus 1/2 cup for coating
    • 1 1/2cups unbleached all-purpose flour (7 1/2 ounces)
    • 3/4cup Dutch-processed cocoa powder
    • 1/2teaspoon baking soda
    • 1/4teaspoon table salt plus 1/8 teaspoon table salt
    • 1/2cup dark corn syrup
    • 1large egg white
    • 1teaspoon vanilla extract
    • 12tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter , softened (70 degrees)
    • 1/3cup packed dark brown sugar (about 2 1/2 ounces)
    • 4ounces bittersweet chocolate , chopped into 1/2-inch pieces

    INSTRUCTIONS
    1. Adjust oven racks to upper- and lower-middle positions and heat oven to 375 degrees. Line 2 large (18- by 12-inch) baking sheets with parchment paper. Place ½ cup granulated sugar in shallow baking dish or pie plate. Whisk flour, cocoa powder, baking soda, and salt together in medium bowl. Whisk corn syrup, egg white, and vanilla together in small bowl.

    2. In stand mixer fitted with paddle attachment, beat butter, brown sugar, and remaining 1/3 cup granulated sugar at medium-high speed until light and fluffy, about 2 minutes. Reduce speed to medium-low, add corn syrup mixture, and beat until fully incorporated, about 20 seconds, scraping bowl once with rubber spatula. With mixer running at low speed, add flour mixture and chopped chocolate; mix until just incorporated, about 30 seconds, scraping bowl once. Give dough final stir with rubber spatula to ensure that no pockets of flour remain at bottom. Chill dough 30 minutes to firm slightly
    (do not chill longer than 30 minutes).

    3. Divide dough into 16 equal portions (195 oz each); roll between hands into balls about 11/2 inches in diameter. Working in batches, drop 8 dough balls into baking dish with sugar and toss to coat. Set dough balls on prepared baking sheet, spacing about 2 inches apart; repeat with second batch of 8. Bake, reversing position of the baking sheets halfway through baking (from top to bottom and front to back), until cookies are puffed and cracked and edges have begun to set but centers are still soft (cookies will look raw between cracks and seem underdone), 10 to 11 minutes. Do not overbake.

    4. Cool cookies on baking sheet 5 minutes, then use wide metal spatula to transfer cookies to wire rack; cool cookies to room temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    My answer to the Chinese germ warfare theory people is: So then, why were we so badly prepared? I mean, sure, general health is the responsibility of the Invisible Hand in this country (and, turns out, the Invisible Hand doesn't give a fuck), but if this was a calculated attack, then it was up to the Department of Defense to anticipate it, and to prepare for it. And we do have a very, very well funded Department of Defense, with "intelligence" responsibilities, and massive budgets for materials to be used in response to even the most remotely unlikely kinds of attacks on us. So still, blowing this pandemic worse than nearly all other countries in the world is very much our country's failure.

    Good points.

    One might imagine the DoD was relying on the BWC to prevent this from happening

    It's also certainly plausible that this is more cultivated than manufactured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    It’s not an answer, it’s a different, and valid subject.
    Where are you reading warfare though?
    I don't buy it. (Certainly possible that this was an Ice Spiders scenario, though, where it was a lab virus that accidentally got out.) My point is, the US has no excuse for not being prepared for this, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    My answer to the Chinese germ warfare theory people is: So then, why were we so badly prepared? I mean, sure, general health is the responsibility of the Invisible Hand in this country (and, turns out, the Invisible Hand doesn't give a fuck), but if this was a calculated attack, then it was up to the Department of Defense to anticipate it, and to prepare for it. And we do have a very, very well funded Department of Defense, with "intelligence" responsibilities, and massive budgets for materials to be used in response to even the most remotely unlikely kinds of attacks on us. So still, blowing this pandemic worse than nearly all other countries in the world is very much our country's failure.
    Per George Carlin: “all of national security can be combined in two departments. 1. WTF was that? and 2. WTF are we going to do about it now”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    I don't buy it. (Certainly possible that this was an Ice Spiders scenario, though, where it was a lab virus that accidentally got out.) My point is, the US has no excuse for not being prepared for this, regardless.
    Not to put on any tinfoil but there is a lot of upside in not being prepared if you are ruthless enough to exploit that.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Has this site already been discussed?


    https://covidactnow.org/us/fl/county/leon_county

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Not to put on any tinfoil but there is a lot of upside in not being prepared if you are ruthless enough to exploit that.
    Man you could chase your tail forever on that.

    Occam says it transferred from wildlife, as many other viruses have before.

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    People studying wildlife, or people eating wildlife?

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    Or fucking, or whatever.

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    Times are tough.

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    News reported tonight that it looks like stroke is possibly a complication of CV19 and they are seeking it in people well under the age for stroke. Great.
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    ^ 5 of the top 10 comorbities as reported in NY are cardiovascular.

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    Friend just posted this.

    I don't really get it - does she think the virus is too deadly to be stopped or fake?

    Why do med prof wear them then?

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