Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[ridinshockgun]

Oh yeah, because the greater Seattle metro area isn't densely populated. The testing capacity out here is pathetic. New York can process 7500 tests per day, and we're bragging about having a handful of driveup facilities that case test 50(!!!) people per day.

Nothing like NYC though, not arguing with you that we need more testing but it also makes complete sense that this will spread much faster in NYC. So, probably a bit of both.

[iceman]

RE: Huck's post:Failing the two-part confirmation, presence of antibodies plus time (i.e 2 weeks since postitive antibody test) should be reliable enough to work from I would imagine. Or maybe "hope" is the right word.

[glademaster]

Cuomo is crushing it once again. He's far too much of a New Yorker to ever be electable nationally, but he's managing this well.

[plugboots]

Just heard the Olympics are still on? WTF...

On what?
My B-I-L is a HS teacher and coach in Port Angeles and things are shut down like everywhere else.

[iceman]

On what?
My B-I-L is a HS teacher and coach in Port Angeles and things are shut down like everywhere else.

The Olympic Games, not the Olympic Peninsula my man.

[glademaster]

On what?
My B-I-L is a HS teacher and coach in Port Angeles and things are shut down like everywhere else.

Groan.

[plugboots]

Groan.

Thats hilarious. I was reading the PNW thread and switched. Oops.

[k2skier112]

[SKIP IN7RO]

Italian hospital video.
https://vimeo.com/398334975

[Benny Profane]

Cuomo is crushing it once again. He's far too much of a New Yorker to ever be electable nationally, but he's managing this well.

Yeah, this is his Rudy 9/11 moment.

[MultiVerse]

I've been desperately searching for this data. Can you please link it? Specifically the performance data for the WHO and CDC assays. Thx.

You're better able to evaluate the data than I am but from what I understand you're looking for sensitivity and specificity. This study says if the test is performed with a correct set of primers and not in an environment where there are many carriers then it is probably reliable:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6988269/

Outside of formal papers, there's also plenty of statements from doctors/researchers describing the efficacy of current tests. It's also worth mentioning that if there are more false positives due to an environment where there are many carriers then that's useful information too. More people than necessary may end up quarantined for 14 days but we're already starting to do that now for the entire population because we're flying blind.

[Ottime]

https://slate.com/business/2020/03/t...-the-poor.html......read about the details of the Republic plan...it is not $1200 for everyone,.............Senate Republicans have now released their hotly anticipated proposal to send families direct cash payments, as part of a wider economic aid package aimed at combating the coronavirus crisis. And hoo boy is it disappointing.

Under the plan, the government would provide households an early tax rebate worth up to $1,200 for an individual or $2,400 for a married couple, with an extra $500 for each of their children. (So far, so good). The payments will be based on a household’s 2018 tax return, or if it didn’t submit one, their 2019 filing.

But the checks will shrink for both low and high earners. Americans with little to no tax liability (aka, poor folks) will only receive a minimum payment of $600, unless they earned less than $2,500, in which case they get zilch. Low-wage workers who don’t have a federal tax return for 2018 or 2019—adults generally aren’t required to file one they if earn less than the standard deduction—also won’t qualify for the early rebate. (They could still get it next year if they file taxes for 2020, but by that time it will be a bit late.) Meanwhile, the payments phase down for workers who make more than $75,000 and drop to zero for those making $99,000 and above (double those numbers for joint filers).

Ah, the GOP. Fucking the poor and the needy again and again and again.

No issues with the top end. But fuck the poor. Let them starve and die.

[glademaster]

Yeah, this is his Rudy 9/11 moment.

He seems to be one of the few people in a leadership position who is putting equal emphasis on the severity of the disease/need to contain it and the importance of not working ourselves into a frenzy of panic.

[The AD]

Just heard the Olympics are still on? WTF...

There's a movement afoot to postpone them till next year that makes lots of sense. There's zero reason to have them this July. Athletes won't be ready and there's no reason to have thousands of people traveling to Japan even if things look much better then.

[Benny Profane]

He seems to be one of the few people in a leadership position who is putting equal emphasis on the severity of the disease/need to contain it and the importance of not panicking to the point of hysteria.

And not getting baited into fights with the WH over stupid shit, like Wolf Blitzer asking him three times about the "Chinese" flue label, and being very reasonable and polite about it. We have more important things to worry about.

[Ottime]

Yeah, this is his Rudy 9/11 moment.

Except Cuomo did not spawn from the ninth circle of Hell.

[Benny Profane]

Except Cuomo did not spawn from the ninth circle of Hell.

Almost. Queens.

[gravitylover]

Cuomo is crushing it once again. He's far too much of a New Yorker to ever be electable nationally, but he's managing this well.

He's doing a surprisingly.good job. I can't believe I'm saying it but I'm proud of how he's handling things. We processed 10k tests in less than 24 hours and more capacity is coming online every day. Fkn amazing.

[skiing-in-jackson]

I was listening to someone yesterday, dooming and glooming, talking about the truck loads of dead elderly people in Europe. The mass carnage and bodies piled up outside morgues in the streets.

We all have video cameras on our phones. If a truck has traction problems delivering clean linens to the four seasons, five people are there filming it. Where is the video. Just curious that’s all.

[jono]

Anyone know why the Johns Hopkins map changed from showing 1 recovered in WA to 0? Hoping something other than re-infection.

[gravitylover]

Looks like the shit is hitting the fan. I guess we are all supposed to stay home now. Uggh

[XXX-er]

Hey, the Democrats are gearing up to campaign for a very old, senile, corporate and military owned man for the alternative to Orange Clown, because there's no way they want a candidate who advocates for something we absolutely need right now at this very moment, universal health care. The rich are hoarding and escaping to second homes, and the ten percent will do anything to get stocks back up. Most are fucked for another ten years.

I didn't know what a copay was until I started hanging out on line talking to Americans, any way up here med bills don't go thru an insurance company, an MD has his ID # he knows what he is allowed to bill for and he just bills the gov directly

[dunfree]

I was listening to someone yesterday, dooming and glooming, talking about the truck loads of dead elderly people in Europe. The mass carnage and bodies piled up outside morgues in the streets.

We all have video cameras on our phones. If a truck has traction problems delivering clean linens to the four seasons, five people are there filming it. Where is the video. Just curious that’s all.

bergamos morgue has been overwhelmed and the army is trucking body’s to other towns for cremation - there’s video. There’s also video of an overwhelmed hospital, if you want that. Accounts from Drs nurses too.

[hawkgt]

I was listening to someone yesterday, dooming and glooming, talking about the truck loads of dead elderly people in Europe. The mass carnage and bodies piled up outside morgues in the streets.

We all have video cameras on our phones. If a truck has traction problems delivering clean linens to the four seasons, five people are there filming it. Where is the video. Just curious that’s all.

[Ted Striker]

Ah, the GOP. Fucking the poor and the needy again and again and again.

No issues with the top end. But fuck the poor. Let them starve and die.

It's aimed at voters.