Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[Benny Profane]

Are bars in Moab open?

[splat]

My dentist sent me an email. They’re super thrilled as I’m sure you can imagine.

I know right. i'm in the middle of a 8 visit treatment plan. They've stopped calling to remind me to make a new appointment

I blew off a dentist appt and a scheduled MRI last week. I'd rather yank that molar with vice grips than get this shit.

[Dantheman]

Living in SF? Hunker down.

I'm really curious what the fine print is here. Still allowed to go grocery stores and pharmacies like Italy? Allowed to walk your dog around the block?

[splat]

That's a nice fluff piece from one person that tries to directly deflect the blame to from Trump to China.

Can find plenty of other sources refuting this. But that's polyass material. You could start by reading the snopes' summary which has links to the relevant articles showing that the administration did indeed disband the pandemic response team.

vibes.

I posted the Snopes link on that in this thread about a million pages ago.

[LegoSkier]

I'm really curious what the fine print is here. Still allowed to go grocery stores and pharmacies like Italy? Allowed to walk your dog around the block?

Yes. Grocery, etc. treks still allowed.

[MultiVerse]

A few important pieces of information, some new, some from posts in the other thread.

No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sponse-office/
"It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious."

To be clear you just posted an opinion piece by a Trump appointee who goes on to say the Trump administration saw fit to shrink the NSC staff for the sake of efficiency but fails to mention the officials who were forced out were the ones in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

So while technically the pandemic response office wasn't "dissolved" the global health security people were forced out leaving only the biodefense, not public health experts, to pick up the slack.

The team responsible for coordinating the global and domestic U.S. response to pandemic outbreaks with other governments, across federal agencies, as well as with state and local entities was left unfilled.

[KenJongIll]

yes two different school my SIL is a title 1 school. I think i know the high school you are talking about in the high falutin part of the city, but I won't name it for anonymity purposes.
I wanted to fish the Tuck, but was too deep and flowing too fast. good luck

Yes. High falutin...lots of jet set types there(not us). Not surprising.
It’s no secret now as it hit the news.
We are now isolated minus a run to Ingles here in a few. Hope they have food.


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[funkendrenchman]

Living in SF? Hunker down.

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Coming to your town soon.

[skaredshtles]

Some in Colorado have figured out how to use debit cards. So if skared (the person I replied to) is still hoarding cash for dispensary visits, he's going to the wrong dispensaries!

Fucking DEBIT card?!? Never used one of those god-forsaken things in my life.

[PNWbrit]

check back in a week

Arguing with mofro about this stuff is pretty ridiculous.

[Dantheman]

Are bars in Moab open?

Appear to be: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/13/covid-19-closures/

The local business community there has been pushing back hard on any substantial response: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/11/gra...d-19-response/

[Boissal]

My Jr. High French teacher (Mrs. Wolfenstein) lived through the Nazi occupation of Paris. Boy did she have stories to tell - crazy shit. She told me they ate rats.

Just got off the phone with my 87 yo grandma who lived in Normandy during WW2. Her stories are definitely crazy. She didn't have rats to eat, they ran out of potatoes pretty early and finished the war eating a type of beet that is usually given to goats only as it's so fucking hard.
She said the situation in France is starting to remind her of the war. She's quarantined in her apartment with my grandpa who is unmanageable due to advanced alzheimer's. My parents drop off groceries for them but they don't interact directly since they live in a village that had 5 cases in February (a Brit tourist returning from Asia and 4 family members). My parents are done with work for the winter as the ski resort they both work for closed with 20 minutes advance notice. My mom had to hike up the cat track today to get her gear down. My dad is out touring every day, he's definitely handling it better...

We're all gripped for my sister who is 5 months pregnant and works as a nutritionist at a large hospital in Annecy. Thank Jeebus she actually left Paris 6 months ago, it's apparently full-blown chaos out there, all my buddies who live in town have stopped laughing about it and drinking themselves silly.

Ms Boissal is a trauma & critical care PA at the big IHC hub in SLC where most of the patients are being treated. She's been told that people may be re-assigned away from their departments as needed. CC is definitely going to be dealing with the worst of the infected patients. She's fucked which means I'm fucked. I'll continue touring solo until I have a reason not to (read: I get sick). I also will offer violent cock punches to anyone who runs their mouth about the situation being overblown.

[skaredshtles]

Appear to be: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/13/covid-19-closures/

The local business community there has been pushing back hard on any substantial response: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/11/gra...d-19-response/

Moab local business community?

[skaredshtles]

<snip> all my buddies who live in town have stopped laughing about it and drinking themselves silly.

You mean to tell me they have STOPPED drinking?? Or that *instead* of laughing they have STARTED drinking?

[Boissal]

You mean to tell me they have STOPPED drinking?? Or that *instead* of laughing they have STARTED drinking?

They realized they needed at least part of their wits to remain intact so they can be somewhat functional to deal with the situation so they're drinking a lot less. And they're rationing a bit. Fortunately one can get booze at the grocery store in France and those are considered essential businesses so they remain opened for now.
Second round of the municipal elections is on hold all over the country until at least June 21st. It's supposed to happen 2 weeks after the 1st round which was last Sunday...

[splat]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237174846355841024

[seano732]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237174846355841024

Jesus Fucking Christ.....

[alias_rice]

I’m a commercial loan officer for a local financial institution in Utah and shit is now fully hitting the fan. I’ve already requested payment deferments for over $20 million in loans just today. Now I’m on a conference call with local sba lenders and the regional office about sba disaster funds. It sounds like I’m not alone. Banks are about to get crushed.

[Core Shot]

I’m a commercial loan officer for a local financial institution in Utah and shit is now fully hitting the fan. I’ve already requested payment deferments for over $20 million in loans just today. Now I’m on a conference call with local sba lenders and the regional office about sba disaster funds. It sounds like I’m not alone. Banks are about to get crushed.

2 weeks ago Sba was touting all time low commercial rates. Purchase or refi. Like 2.5% fixed for ten years.
Was tempted, but I know that snail pace expensive closing timeline

[ill-advised strategy]

Our worlds are getting smaller.....


The White House has advised people not to gather in groups of more than 10.

Cue mormon couples solemnly debating whether or not to try for that 9th kid.

[Cono Este]

I’m a commercial loan officer for a local financial institution in Utah and shit is now fully hitting the fan. I’ve already requested payment deferments for over $20 million in loans just today. Now I’m on a conference call with local sba lenders and the regional office about sba disaster funds. It sounds like I’m not alone. Banks are about to get crushed.

Thanks for that. Good luck.


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[Benny Profane]

Appear to be: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/13/covid-19-closures/

The local business community there has been pushing back hard on any substantial response: https://moabtimes.com/2020/03/11/gra...d-19-response/

New Hot Spot.

[skiballs]

^but...but.., this response is not overblown, overreacting is the only possible choice now. A fucking nuclear bombing would be less disruptive than a flu virus outbreak.

[bodywhomper]

first confirmed case in eastern nevada county (aka truckee area). https://yubanet.com/regional/nevada-...G3eYCTc2ayWBVU

Note the emphasis still on not testing if you have mild symptoms due to systemic problems.

[BmillsSkier]

Greatest. Ending. Ever.