2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

[galibier_numero_un]

I have semi-overlap, and entirely too many skis.

I wish I still had my first pair of GPO I sold to Tone (RIP).

With all of the new Praxis models, the GPO seems to have been overlooked the past 2-3 years. It was my first (and still) favorite Praxis model and tied with my Down CD 114s my favorite ski.

... Thom

[Self Jupiter]

In the same vein, I think the MVP is overlooked around here. Recently took out my stock enduro 193s out on 12’’ of cement on top of rocks, frozen rocks, waterbeds and EC ice and they were fantastic. Such a ridiculously fun pow ski for 110 under foot imo. Total playful chargers for me at 5’7’’ 185. The bases on the ~5 y/o MVP are a lot more durable than my old school camouflage Pows from ~10 years ago, for whatever that’s worth. But I think a big factor in why I personally like them so much is because they ski so similarly to my PJs, which are my daily driver here in NE, which I also happen to think are also way fun in pow considering their width. Plug and play.

[meter-man]

Mounting up some 14/15 Protests with carbon. Anyone know the recommended drill bit size? I don't see it on Praxis's website.

3.5x9.5?

Planning to buy from Slidewright... https://www.slidewright.com/alpine--...drill-bits.php

[SeatownSlackey]

Correct. No metal = 3.5mm

[PeachesNCream]

Some MVPs should be in the mail in the next couple days, stoke is high. What's the thoughts on mounting point? Skis: 193 MVPs , 4 flex, veneer, mounted with Shifts. Me: 6'3, 200lbs, more neutral stance, 50/50 resort/touring, ski in the PNW and Idaho, lots of tree skiing.

[Self Jupiter]

I like mine on the line but I haven’t tried them anywhere else. At 5’7’’ I can ski from a neutral stance or drive ze tips

[undertow2]

What SJ said... 6’4” and 205 lbs rocking the 193 for 6 years now and went line... Can pressure the front of my boots or ski neutral and zero issues... I am sure you can move them from the line but I have zero complaints on the line...


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[PeachesNCream]

What SJ said... 6’4” and 205 lbs rocking the 193 for 6 years now and went line... Can pressure the front of my boots or ski neutral and zero issues... I am sure you can move them from the line but I have zero complaints on the line...


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Sounds good to me. Does anyone know how far back the line is?

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[skuff]

Some MVPs should be in the mail in the next couple days, stoke is high. What's the thoughts on mounting point? Skis: 193 MVPs , 4 flex, veneer, mounted with Shifts. Me: 6'3, 200lbs, more neutral stance, 50/50 resort/touring, ski in the PNW and Idaho, lots of tree skiing.

I went 1cm behind the line on 193 MVPs with a 3+ flex, slightly softer than stock. 6' 2" 180lb, like a more forward stance, all inbounds skiing. Skis great there, haven't tried a different mount location though.

I asked Drew Tabke, The Champ, and he suggested on the line, no more than 1cm back.

[YaBoyBlue]

I went 1cm behind the line on 193 MVPs. 6' 2" 180lb, like a more forward stance, all inbounds skiing. Skis great there, haven't tried a different mount location though.

I asked Drew Tabke, The Champ, and he suggested on the line, no more than 1cm back.

I ran my 187 stock MVP at the line and -1cm, I felt like -1cm gave a slightly better amount of float in pow as well as slightly more to lean forward on when it was super firm or icy. I saw no downside to -1cm.

[Shu Shu]

2013 vintage concepts with some fresh pivots. Back in regular rotation after a season on the sidelines. Just in time for the great east coast wash out of 2020.

[skibrd]

Just put my custom Protests up for sale. Sad day, but it’s time for someone else to love them. 196cm, veneer Tusnami top sheet, 4 flex, enduro w/ carbon core. Great skis, just going in a different direction. Took them to Japan last year, had a blast, just don’t see myself skiing them much and they need to be loved.


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[2FUNKY]

Damn. Don’t need a third pair but that would round out my protest quiver nicely. 188, custom 192, these. Lol.

[skibrd]

Damn. Don’t need a third pair but that would round out my protest quiver nicely. 188, custom 192, these. Lol.

I think you do need a third pair. Different Protests for different days. It’s pretty simple math actually.


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[Kopi_Red]

Moar ProTests = Moar Betterer

[glademaster]

I sure hope Keith offers a custom order window in the spring like he has the last few years again.

My skinny Quixotes are one of my all-time favorite skis.

[SupreChicken]

Skinny Qs are on my WTB list

[galibier_numero_un]

Funny ... their weakest attribute (to me) is hard snow squirrely-ness. As much as a skinny-Q wouldn't work for me, I can easily see a fat-Q, perhaps even over a C&D. I hadn't thought of this until now.

... Thom

[glademaster]

Skinny Qs are on my WTB list

They're stellar. I know ordering a semi-custom ski is always a bit of a crapshoot, but mine turned out to be a perfect fit for me. I have mine mounted with G3 Ions and it's my quiver of one backcountry ski. I've skied them in all conditions and they're eminently predictable, which is a quality I value highly in a touring ski. FTR I'm 5'7" and weigh about 155 pounds, my skinny Q's are 181cm, flex 3, heavy core, carbon laminate, veneer topsheet customs. I tour in La Sportiva Spectre 2.0 boots, to give you an idea of what I'm driving the setup with. I mounted them at -1 cm from recommended.

I love the rocker profile of them and can't say I've given the asym design a second thought: it's much more pronounced in the tails than the tips, so it isn't like the skis look wonky as you're standing atop a line. For me, they're one of the more intuitive skis I've ridden. Here's a pic from about 1/2 way down my first run ever on them, skiing the SW Chutes on Mt. Adams. (photo credit Norseman)



I also find them to be equally at home skiing thigh deep Kootenay powder. I would buy another pair of the exact same ski.

[Self Jupiter]

I have a pair of -1 Qs, 188s I passed along to a buddy that he now wants me to help him sell. Great condition but two mounts. 4 flex, heavy hitter core, no carbon. Once owned by the legendary Aeverbetel. Now that I’ve lost a few lbs (I’m about 185 now, 5’7’’), I’m kind of keen to try them about again. They were cool- surprising great and predictable on firmer stuff, floaty and loose in pow. I had them mounted on the line, and from there demanded a neutral stance exclusively, imo. Both Betel and I found them to be a little too eager to turn and have the tails wash out, with the note that I felt that way when I weighed closer to 200. I could spin around if I tried to get on the tips. I prefer skis that I can situationally ski from center or drive the shovels, so that’s why I moved on. I wanted them as an EC touring ski of one with occasional use in shallower pow at the resort.

[TBS]

2013 vintage concepts with some fresh pivots. Back in regular rotation after a season on the sidelines. Just in time for the great east coast wash out of 2020.

Heh, some flex 5 GPOs to match your protests

[Muggydude]

A Fat Q actually sounds dope. My one complain on the skis is a bit of lack of float (but I sized down to the 182 mind you). 188 Fat Q would be sweet me thinks


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[galibier_numero_un]

A Fat Q actually sounds dope. My one complain on the skis is a bit of lack of float (but I sized down to the 182 mind you). 188 Fat Q would be sweet me thinks


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I hadn't considered a skinny-Q, 'coz I view it as a soft snow biased ski. Reading the above comments however, it could have its moments for the guy who wants to mount it as a do it all touring ski.

Having said that, I had been mulling over a C&D, but the idea of how quickly you can shut down and/or turn a Q in tight places, is fostering dreams of a fat-Q ... if Keith ever reinstates a Spring custom run.

... Thom

[N1CK.]

Customs are back!

ouch, not inexpensive, but yea, they're back.


Unrelated, I now have two days on my The Ski customs. Heavy core + carbon. These skis are amazing. Perfect amount of camber, tons of pop, DAMP and stable inbounds. I haven't had them out if anything very deep, but enough soft snow to know they float just fine. Full on pow days would see the GPO or Protest anyway.

I mounted on the line, did zero detuning, and wouldn't change a damn thing.

[galibier_numero_un]

Been doing some ski testing this week. I really want to thin the herd.

On this trip, my 182 Down CD 114s, 187 GPOs (Enduro/Veneer/#4) and 2014, 186 Billy Goats. It's been the perfect week in the Wasatch for these 3 skis.

At this point, the odd man out is looking like the GPOs. If that's the case, I'll offer 'em here before gear swap, to minimize the riff-raff.

I'm seeing the GPOs as the 'tweener skis of the 3. I was however, quite surprised how much more predictable in deep stuff the 187s are than my 182 Enduro/Carbon/Nylon/#4 GPOs.

This feels more like the added length and longer turn radius of the 187s, although they are also damper (veneer and no carbon - not a big deal in soft snow).

On 0-6" days, I'd grab the Downs, due to their shorter length, and on deep days, it's the Goats by a hair, although a surprisingly difficult choice between the two.

And there ya have it.

... Thom