Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[alewi11]

Those e13 cassettes are absolute garbage. I've had the cogs fold over on me on 2 separate cassettes. 700 miles sounds great. I think I got 200 miles out of one and maybe 300 out of the other. I wanted to like them. The weight and range is good, but never again.

[grskier]

I love the range with the 11 speeds...

Is there another 11 speed to consider, I guess I could do without the 9 tooth and go to 10 and go down to 4x0% with the shimano... box or anyone else any good?

[Dantheman]

Maybe not full rant worthy, but it annoys me that a handlebar swap requires 5+ different tools. Last night's required 2.5/3/4/5 mm hex, a T25 and a Phillips. Lock-ons obviously need the 2.5, but I see no reason why everything else (stem, brakes, shifter, dropper, bell) can't be 4 mm hex.

[smmokan]

I love the range with the 11 speeds...

Is there another 11 speed to consider, I guess I could do without the 9 tooth and go to 10 and go down to 4x0% with the shimano... box or anyone else any good?

Shimano XT 11-46? There’s also Sunrace and Garbaruk.

[dfinn]

Anyone know if the Shimano 11-46 can be used on a SRAM drivetrain? I've heard mixing and matching is OK. Currently running SRAM 11-42 and wouldn't mind just a tad more granny at times.

the internet says yes : https://brokenspokebikes.com/blogs/n...imano-cassette

[Touring_Sedan]

Anyone know if the Shimano 11-46 can be used on a SRAM drivetrain? I've heard mixing and matching is OK. Currently running SRAM 11-42 and wouldn't mind just a tad more granny at times.

the internet says yes : https://brokenspokebikes.com/blogs/n...imano-cassette

I did it for a while till I could afford a new shifter and derailleur. Never had any issues.

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[HankScorpio]

Maybe not full rant worthy, but it annoys me that a handlebar swap requires 5+ different tools. Last night's required 2.5/3/4/5 mm hex, a T25 and a Phillips. Lock-ons obviously need the 2.5, but I see no reason why everything else (stem, brakes, shifter, dropper, bell) can't be 4 mm hex.

Yep, I was just thinking this the other day when simply adjusting the angle of my bar - dropper lever is a 3mm, shifter is a 5mm and brake levers are 4mm.

[volklpowdermaniac]

Not really a new concept to bitch about, but seems to happen all the time in bike world “BRAND NEW” only 50 miles “BRAND NEW” barely ridden!

No, no it’s not.

[dfinn]

I did it for a while till I could afford a new shifter and derailleur. Never had any issues.

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I got all excited and forgot that I'd have to buy a new driver for my hub. Deal breaker, I'll just keep struggling up the steeps.

[One (+) Sentence]

I got all excited and forgot that I'd have to buy a new driver for my hub. Deal breaker, I'll just keep struggling up the steeps.

The E-13 9-46T cassette is 11 spd and uses a XD Driver. Sun Race may make something too.

[californiagrown]

Not really a new concept to bitch about, but seems to happen all the time in bike world “BRAND NEW” only 50 miles “BRAND NEW” barely ridden!

No, no it’s not.

I really want/need a new shock for my bike (have a trail shock on a 165mm travel mini DH bike and am 200lbs with gear on), but the only shocks i can reasonably afford are listed in the PB buy/sell as "lightly used" or "only test ridden"... yeah fucking right.

[jm2e]

Yes: you can mix/match cassettes as long as they’re the same number of cogs.
Yes: needing to buy a new freehub/driver is maddening. Shimano deciding to add a new one out of spite is just plain retarded.
Yes: 4mm cockpit bolts should be the law. Even for grips.


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[jm2e]

Does anyone ever use the 10mm or 1.5mm Allen wrenchs that come with every set?
I don’t think I’ve ever used the 10mm.
I only use the 1.5mm for picking dirt out of bigger bolt heads and for releasing the Shimano brake handlebar clamp. No memory of ever “wrenching” one.


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[jono]

I believe I have used the 1.5 mm and IMS, using it was even more irritating. Nothing should be that small.

[El Chupacabra]

I've only used the 1.5 for releasing Shimano brake clamps.

I think I used the 10mm one on a suspension pivot bolt, but not sure.

[Dee Hubbs]

10mm is not very commonly used. Current SRAM cranks with self extracting bolts have a 10mm lock ring, but you should rarely need to adjust the locking ring, only the 8mm extractor bolt. Some older Shimano octalink cranks have a 10mm extractor bolt. Older Shimano freehubs (pre 14mm free hubs) for steel axles used a 10mm internal hex to remove them.

[Touring_Sedan]

I got all excited and forgot that I'd have to buy a new driver for my hub. Deal breaker, I'll just keep struggling up the steeps.

It's worth it.

XT Cassette ~$65
DT 350 Driver ~$65

GX Cassette ~$130

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[toast2266]

It's worth it.

XT Cassette ~$65
DT 350 Driver ~$65

GX Cassette ~$130

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So for the same price, you can add a bunch of unsprung, rotating weight to your bike. Sounds sweet.

A 10-42 sram cassette will be about the same as an 11-46 shimano cassette if you just drop down 2 teeth on the chainring.

[Dantheman]

Anyone know if the Shimano 11-46 can be used on a SRAM drivetrain? I've heard mixing and matching is OK. Currently running SRAM 11-42 and wouldn't mind just a tad more granny at times.

the internet says yes : https://brokenspokebikes.com/blogs/n...imano-cassette

I got all excited and forgot that I'd have to buy a new driver for my hub. Deal breaker, I'll just keep struggling up the steeps.

I'm confused. Did you mis-type your first post and you actually have a 10-42 on an XD freehub? In that case, you have some options:

Leonardi General Lee 9-45: https://leonardistore.com/collection...l-lee-11v-9-45

Garbaruk 10-46: https://www.garbaruk.com/11-speed-xd.html

SunRace CSMX9X 10-46: http://www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/csmx9x

Hope also makes 10-44 and 10-48 cassettes (https://www.hopetech.com/products/dr...-spd-cassette/), but they only work on Hope hubs or DT Swiss hubs with a OneUp MiniDriver (https://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/minidriver). The E13 cassettes have pretty well documented durability issues, I'd avoid.

No way I'd go back to a standard Shimano freehub. Besides having very limited options for wide-range cassettes that aren't boat anchors, XD just plain works better.

[Dantheman]

So for the same price, you can add a bunch of unsprung, rotating weight to your bike. Sounds sweet.

A 10-42 sram cassette will be about the same as an 11-46 shimano cassette if you just drop down 2 teeth on the chainring.

Yeah, 10-42 is more range (albeit only slightly) than 11-46. That 10t makes a big damn difference. Swapping from 11-42 to 11-46 makes plenty of sense if you need an extra low gear, but swapping from 10-42 to 11-46 absolutely does not.

[Touring_Sedan]

So for the same price, you can add a bunch of unsprung, rotating weight to your bike. Sounds sweet.

A 10-42 sram cassette will be about the same as an 11-46 shimano cassette if you just drop down 2 teeth on the chainring.

Sorry, I'm too busy riding my bike to waste time weighing each hex bolt. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever finished a ride only to think how much better it would have been with less unsprung weight... but then again, there's probably 34.768g of extra chain lube and dirt in my cassette right now. I'll go measure it to confirm.

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[El Chupacabra]

FWIW:
https://www.bike24.com/p2231000.html?q=gx+eagle

12-spd GX shifter, chain, cassette, derailleur, for about $250 shipped to the US. If anyone around Reno/Northern California wants to order one, let me know, I'll pick up a set too and split shipping costs.

[toastybroski]

I got bit by an off leash dog in boulder yesterday while riding. I was so fucking pissed. I hate riding in the front range.

[rideit]

Yes: needing to buy a new freehub/driver is maddening. Shimano deciding to add a new one out of spite is just plain retarded

To be fair, Shimano needed a new platform in order to put a 10t on and compete with SRAM. They certainly weren’t going to use the XD.

[Dantheman]

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever finished a ride only to think how much better it would have been with less unsprung weight...

Says the guy who mostly rides hardtails

The main point though is that 11-46 is less range than 10-42, so it's a pretty pointless swap.

To be fair, Shimano needed a new platform in order to put a 10t on and compete with SRAM. They certainly weren’t going to use the XD.

Well, they could have used XD, and I've got $37 that says they would have sold a lot more 10-xx cassettes that way, but we'll see. I'll be surprised, nay, shocked, if Microspline ever becomes anywhere near as popular as XD. XD has a 6-year head start.