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Thread: Tecnica ZeroG Tour Pro - 2018- 9 boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslogar View Post
    So why even make a stiff touring boot, if you can't truly use it for inbounds and outbounds.

    I used my Maestrale inbounds, bumps, racing and never had an issue.

    Now I am worried the Zero g won't be able to handle the same?
    The maestrale doesn't ski any better than other bc boots.
    It's a compromise.

    This season, i had to ski my Lange freetours in the resort because of a toe operation i had (easier to get in).

    Ski bumps, everything.

    But this doesn't mean that it skis the same as my Alpine boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslogar View Post
    So why even make a stiff touring boot, if you can't truly use it for inbounds and outbounds.

    I used my Maestrale inbounds, bumps, racing and never had an issue.

    Now I am worried the Zero g won't be able to handle the same?
    If you are happy with your Maestrale's inbounds then you likely be happier with some Zero G's providing they fit. I personally wouldn't ski either inbounds on a regular basis just like I wont use light skis or tech bindings. I see hundreds of people doing it every day I am on the hill though...
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    Zero G arrived. Significantly more difficult to get into and out of than the maestrale. Flex a bit stiffer on the zero G. Instep/top of the foot area is tight AF even WITHOUT the insoles. I'm sort of reticent to put those in.

    I've been able to ski the maestrale without baking the liner. I wouldn't do that with the zero G. Buckles are more fiddly on the Zero G.

    Walk modes are similar - both really nice.

    Will probably spring for a bake and a fitting before I ski it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupreChicken View Post
    Zero G arrived. Significantly more difficult to get into and out of than the maestrale.
    Overlap VS 3 piece
    This should not surprise you

    There's a surprising amount of instep room if you pad and heat. Otherwise I couldn't wear ZGTPs (I use custom insoles).
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupreChicken View Post
    Zero G arrived. Significantly more difficult to get into and out of than the maestrale.
    IME, they break in a bit and get easier to slip on. Definitely want to keep them as warm as possible, though, in the car. I try to keep them on the passenger seat floor with the heater on and put them on as soon as I park.
    Also, I don't love driving with ski boots on, but these are the best driving boots I've owned. And they're pretty narrow. Not sure I'd want to drive stick with them, but on really cold days and an automatic transmission, you could always put them on at home. Doesn't help for multi-overnight BC trips, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hafjell View Post
    Doesn't help for multi-overnight BC trips, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Real men sleep in their ski boots.
    I considered doing that back in the Black Diamond Factor era. Fuck I hated those boots!

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    For those struggling to get the boots on for one reason or another stick the liner on your foot and shove it into the shell.. works very well especially for those with a high instep. I do the same thing when getting out of the boots. Just pull the liner out with your foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couchsending View Post
    For those struggling to get the boots on for one reason or another stick the liner on your foot and shove it into the shell.. works very well especially for those with a high instep. I do the same thing when getting out of the boots. Just pull the liner out with your foot.
    If I use the laces, it's virtually impossible to get my foot in and out without doing that.

    If I don't use the laces, getting in and out seems about the same as any other overlap. Maybe a little easier since the plastic is thin and easy to peel open.

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    First assessment of Zero G

    Here is my assessment of the new zero g.
    Coming from a maestrale v1.0 size 27.5
    shoe size 9/9.5

    Zero g 27.5
    They definitely take a little effort to get on your feet. A little stretching of the shell pieces to get my foot into it

    Toe box is nice an roomy. Heel pocket is firm and tight. I was skiing inbounds today alot of crud. But they performed really well. Good ski feel, and flex index is at least 125, much firmer than the maestrale.

    You definitely can feel the lightness of these boot, either hiking with them or skiing.

    Thing I didn't like is the upright stance and the cuff lean angle is a meager 13 degrees. Really, with all the range of motion, that was the best they could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslogar View Post
    Here is my assessment of the new zero g.
    Coming from a maestrale v1.0 size 27.5
    shoe size 9/9.5

    Zero g 27.5
    They definitely take a little effort to get on your feet. A little stretching of the shell pieces to get my foot into it

    Toe box is nice an roomy. Heel pocket is firm and tight. I was skiing inbounds today alot of crud. But they performed really well. Good ski feel, and flex index is at least 125, much firmer than the maestrale.

    You definitely can feel the lightness of these boot, either hiking with them or skiing.

    Thing I didn't like is the upright stance and the cuff lean angle is a meager 13 degrees. Really, with all the range of motion, that was the best they could do.
    Good review especially hearing your experience vs. Maestrale 1.0.

    And Lee, thanks for the info... Will take a look at the Lupo in addition to the XTD. For my needs I don't think the Zero G is the right boot if even fit my wide feet. Step 1 of course is talking to Tom @ Intuition.

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    Just got my zerogs. W/ intution and cork footbed they fit lovely snug in all the right places.

    Def a upright boot- not my favorite. Can anyone let me know if the stock angle out of the box is 12 or 13 deg. I am sure it's in here somewhere but don't feel like scrolling through 17 pages.

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    TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalNomad View Post
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    I know... That is the bummer part of the double ended walk mode is that it doesn't really allow for much change in angle...easily. Maybe if you CNC'd new arms, and would need to mod that inside metal piece as well.

    Honestly I don't get why they choose 12+13...that's kinda a bullshit "adjustment", more of a large tolerance for ease of use. I could understand 13+16 (the TLT6 and TLT5 have 15+18). Then that fulfills having a more upright boot to help alleviate tech ramp, and a more forward lean for when it's in a frame binding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalNomad View Post
    I know... That is the bummer part of the double ended walk mode is that it doesn't really allow for much change in angle. Maybe if you CNC'd new arms you could change it.
    a bridge too far right there. The spoilers help. I think the 13 plus spoiler should get things to a tolerable spot. Kinda sad though- for a stiff touring boot that has so much forward ROM in walk mode ya'd figure they'd find a way to cater to those of us with flexible ankles. Ohwelllll.

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    oh for sure a bridge too far.

    Actually now that I'm thinking about it. Would love to see Wild Snow take off the top buckle, replace it with an Ultralock buckle and delete the whole back locking mechanism and see what happens (probably way softer). yes stupid idea, but that's their duty now with their endless parts bin they've amassed.
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    12 is stock

    13 when you flip the female piece

    Those are pretty modern ski boot angles.

    Add a nice thick spoiler in the back and you shoud be good.

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    Flipping to 13 definitely helped, you could shim your binding heel if you need a bit more.

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    So which is the 13 degree setup? Mine doesnt have an arrow, just a notch on one side. So is it notch up for 13 degrees?

    thanks,
    Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslogar View Post
    So which is the 13 degree setup? Mine doesnt have an arrow, just a notch on one side. So is it notch up for 13 degrees?

    thanks,
    Alex
    If you look at the piece of black aluminum that has the single steel bar through at the bottom of the locking system it is kinda triangle shaped when viewed from the side. If that longer side of that triangle is facing down, it's at 13. If the longer side is facing up, it's 12.

    In this photo it is set at 13 https://www.tecnicasports.com/files/...O_internal.jpg
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    Ok, it seems that there are some conflicting opinions on what is stock angle here.

    NorCal if I read your assessment correctly, the bottommost bar where the walk lever clicks in on the lower shell, installed next to the graphic of +1deg is the triangle you speak of. Is this right? And if so, how would one even go about flipping this piece if it is pinned in to the shell extension that runs up the Achilles on the inside of the boot, which contains the female piece for the upper walk mode component?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerjake View Post
    Ok, it seems that there are some conflicting opinions on what is stock angle here.

    NorCal if I read your assessment correctly, the bottommost bar where the walk lever clicks in on the lower shell, installed next to the graphic of +1deg is the triangle you speak of. Is this right? And if so, how would one even go about flipping this piece if it is pinned in to the shell extension that runs up the Achilles on the inside of the boot, which contains the female piece for the upper walk mode component?
    It's held on by two screws. Undo the screws. Flip it over. The "bottommost bar" is offset. It's really obvious once you look at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    It's held on by two screws. Undo the screws. Flip it over. The "bottommost bar" is offset. It's really obvious once you look at it
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    Ok, I am desperately trying to not be dense here, but how do you flip over a piece pinned into the inner Achilles extension? Have worked in this field for a long time, boot fitting, etc. Feels weird that I am not just seeing this obvious thing, but I allow there is some synapse that just isn’t firing for me right now. Keep working with me you patient mags.

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    Pull out liner, remove those two screws attaching the external lever bracket, go inside shell and pop out silver female threaded insert, flip insert and pop back into shell, and reattach external bracket with screws.

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