ON3P SKIS Discussion

[steveski]

Weight penalty for sure. But in NW cement not another ski I’d rather tour on. The trip down makes it alllll worth it.


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Yeah but so worth it for inbounds skiing. Anytime I consider putting a pin binding (even tecton, etc.) on an already heavy ski I would rather deal with increased weight sliding along on the skin track.

[kid-kapow]

nice! Good that folks are putting up some action shots to help mitigate the longing for those of us who are unable to ski!

[PNW-skier78]

Has anyone heard any updated on the metal wrenegades or know if this is still happening?

[detuned]

i heard they're gonna have metal in em

[nickwm21]

You guys are looking for a directional 108 ski that’s somewhat traditionally mounted and then more playful than the Wren 108 with more tail rocker but not a full twin. Yeah, I think something like that might be popular. Sometimes you just want to rage, other times you want to screw around a bit and hit every little feature in sight.

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[SupreChicken]

What additional detuning (if any) are people doing for C&Ds?

None. The 2019s are coming from the factory utterly perfect.

I didn’t touch em. They couldn’t be made better with a detune.

[PowTron]

Has anyone heard any updated on the metal wrenegades or know if this is still happening?

Can’t speak for the company any longer, but I know the pair of metal Wren 108 I have and ski regularly are the cats pajamas. Black and purple pair [emoji869]

[Cdubmpdx]

Can’t speak for the company, but I know the pair of metal Wren 108 I have and ski regularly are the cats pajamas. Black and purple pair [emoji869]

[emoji7]Those black and purple are heart throbs

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[kid-kapow]

Can’t speak for the company any longer, but I know the pair of metal Wren 108 I have and ski regularly are the cats pajamas. Black and purple pair [emoji869]

hah, figured as much with yo being all coy in the quiver thread

metal wrens sure must be damp Luckily I am happy as can be with my current ones. Not that the stock ones are soft, but does the metal make them stiffer wrt twisting forces? Or asked differently, does the metal improve their hard snow abilities somewhat?

[PowTron]

They are the best ON3P for hard snow and ice ever built.

[mtskibum16]

Only one day on my 17/18 season Billy Goats but they seem to be tuned perfectly from the factory. Can't imagine people being unhappy with them out of the wrapper. Maybe I got lucky with a good factory detune or I'm just used to sharper hooky skis and these are just loose in comparison or maybe I'll notice more in heavier snow. So far I don't think they need any additional detune though.

[kid-kapow]

That is pretty interesting!

How much weight does the metal add, or is the increase in stiffness negated for with a thinner core making the overall weight gain negliable? Not that weight is the end all be all - it is not, especially for resort skis, but still kinda interesting. Does your w114 sport titanal as well?

[mtskibum16]

I think if you're wanting to add metal to a Wren you would probably welcome the extra weight for resort skiing. I would be curious to know if they have other core changes to offset the metal though.

[PowTron]

That is pretty interesting!

How much weight does the metal add, or is the increase in stiffness negated for with a thinner core making the overall weight gain negliable? Not that weight is the end all be all - it is not, especially for resort skis, but still kinda interesting. Does your w114 sport titanal as well?

My Wren 114 is not metal.

As for weight I don’t notice a difference. They also hand flex almost a little softer than the stiff Wren 108 I used to have, but they absolutely ski stiffer under foot.

[kid-kapow]

Sounds awesome

I am guessing news on the metal project will get plenty of people exited

Mtbskibum - yeah, I fully get that weight is a good thing - especially for resort use - and that a lot of people want more and not less weight (even if feather weight skis is all the rage nowadays). However, it is all about balance, and "just" slapping on some titanal might not give the intended benefits. Both Blizzard, Volkl and Moment has done some very interesting things with both titanal and lightening up their skis of late, so it will be very interesting to see ON3P's approach to the material. I think it is going to be awesome.

And yes - just to put it out there - holy jeebus the graphics on wren96s is awesome! No wonder they are currently sold out (from ON3P's insta - I mean, hot damn! )

[lucknau]

[skiing2skiing]

What's a chargier ski? Supergoats in aeverflex or 11 Wrens?

[kid-kapow]

the uniass is pretty awesome too

It should be made into an uniass meets gryphon - so some lion hind legs, eagle claws in the front and some wings. #instantnewgrizzlycornclassic

[Sessiøn]

What's a chargier ski? Supergoats in aeverflex or 11 Wrens?

If everyone had the balls they say they do, then they would snatch up every 11 Wren that shows up on GS. Based on shape alone the BG's are going to ski completely different, and those wrens will go straight.

[Tailwind]

General question:

I have some current year 190 Bibby’s that I like... but they get kicked around to much skiing fast on variable run outs. I think I notice the lighter weight of the current crop.

Can anyone comment on the overall stability of a 189 Wren 114 (or 108) in variable snow in comparison to the Bibby? I know the shape itself will Ski a bit different also.

[lucknau]

General question:

I have some current year 190 Bibby’s that I like... but they get kicked around to much skiing fast on variable run outs. I think I notice the lighter weight of the current crop.

Can anyone comment on the overall stability of a 189 Wren 114 (or 108) in variable snow in comparison to the Bibby? I know the shape itself will Ski a bit different also.

I can't, but have you considered the Head Monster 108? It will not be kicked around.

[mtskibum16]

What's a chargier ski? Supergoats in aeverflex or 11 Wrens?

The BG is a chargy pow/soft chop ski but not what I would consider a true charger. Hard to compare a pin tail, tapered tip, with lots of rocker front and rear pow ski to an old school square tailed, strong tip true charger IMO. So based on design alone (without skiing either) it has to be the Wren IMO.

[PNW-skier78]

I own the 184 bibby and have skied the 184 wren 114. The wren 114 is a much more stable ski than the bibby. The bibby is more maneuverable and a quicker ski but the wren 114 blows it out of the water when it comes to stability. Honestly I wish I had bought the Wren 114 over the bibby. Another ski to look at if you want a stable soft snow ski is the blizzard bodacious. It doesn't float as well as the wren or bibby but it is one hell of a crud buster.

General question:

I have some current year 190 Bibby’s that I like... but they get kicked around to much skiing fast on variable run outs. I think I notice the lighter weight of the current crop.

Can anyone comment on the overall stability of a 189 Wren 114 (or 108) in variable snow in comparison to the Bibby? I know the shape itself will Ski a bit different also.

[PNW-skier78]

Is the float any different from the non metal version?

They are the best ON3P for hard snow and ice ever built.

[TBS]

They are the best ON3P for hard snow and ice ever built.

Better than Wren 88s?