The chainsaw thread...

[zion zig zag]

So who has the Stihl proform? I sent a PM to rontele but got no reply. I have to take this dead Austrain pine down in my front yard. 36" diameter at the bottom and then splits into two 24" inch diameter trunks about 10 feet up. I'd say it's 70ish feet tall.


I'm used to using an ms362 for work and I'm afraid that the ms250 that I can reasonably afford is going to feel a little underwhelming in comparison. I just don't have the opportunity to cut enough personally to justify spending much more.

[XXX-er]

[QUOTE=BCMtnHound;5459664 . A promotional transfer back to Smithers is back on the table![/QUOTE]

lots of folks are moving up here for lifestyle

just about ever body I know is suddenly working for the government, might have something to do with the change in government

a lot of the old scientists are retiring which will open up opertoonities ... don't wait too long

[highangle]

So who has the Stihl proform? I sent a PM to rontele but got no reply. I have to take this dead Austrain pine down in my front yard. 36" diameter at the bottom and then splits into two 24" inch diameter trunks about 10 feet up. I'd say it's 70ish feet tall.


I'm used to using an ms362 for work and I'm afraid that the ms250 that I can reasonably afford is going to feel a little underwhelming in comparison. I just don't have the opportunity to cut enough personally to justify spending much more.

Mmmyeah...That's something I'd call a pro for. A bonded and insured climber will need a boom truck for that one. He's going to have to dangle every limb bigger than about 1" on his way up. Then he's going to have to cut that trunk into about 9 sections while a choker winch is pulling it away from him and the house and anything that might be below... It'll be cheaper if there's no concrete down there and the trunk sections don't have to be lowered.

If it's split as well as dead and prone to barberchair, then every big piece might have to get cut with a cable pulling straight up, which is sorta sketch for the climber...and expensive.

[Bruce Springskiin]

So who has the Stihl proform? I sent a PM to rontele but got no reply. I have to take this dead Austrain pine down in my front yard. 36" diameter at the bottom and then splits into two 24" inch diameter trunks about 10 feet up. I'd say it's 70ish feet tall.


I'm used to using an ms362 for work and I'm afraid that the ms250 that I can reasonably afford is going to feel a little underwhelming in comparison. I just don't have the opportunity to cut enough personally to justify spending much more.

Hum, I would agree, hire a pro unless there is nothing to hit on the side you are standing taking that photo. I did one split trunk once where it absolutely could not go the other three directions. I strapped the two trunks together with everything I had, then back tied it, then gave it one hell of a birds mouth and hinge. It worked but I did not want that split to open up to the cut.

Just buy the pro saw, you know that is what you really want. Tell the wife it is a better long term investment because it will have a better resale.

Or why won’t your work let you borrow the 362?


- I am here for the stoke

[zion zig zag]

What, my old climbing gear and a 3 to 1 rigged up to lower sections won't work?
Hiring a pro to drop it, I'm going to buck up and clean. Hoping the discount is large enough to pay for the saw.

In the past I've just borrowed one from work. But I don't really want to give the impression that I get special privileges, and I'm kind of particular about who I'd want taking my work saw. So good for the goose, good for the gander type thing.

[Bronco]

Regarding the purchase of a pro-saw, I've purchased two used MS460's in the past 20 years. One lasted me 5 years of daily use and the other is still going and starts on the first few pulls after sitting in the garage for several months at a time. I don't know a ton about small engines but wouldn't hesitate to purchase a used saw if it runs well and appears to be in reasonable condition.

[claymond]

What, my old climbing gear and a 3 to 1 rigged up to lower sections won't work?
Hiring a pro to drop it, I'm going to buck up and clean. Hoping the discount is large enough to pay for the saw.

In the past I've just borrowed one from work. But I don't really want to give the impression that I get special privileges, and I'm kind of particular about who I'd want taking my work saw. So good for the goose, good for the gander type thing.

Are you in the salt lake area? I have a husky 372 and can limb and buck it if you want

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[zion zig zag]

Are you in the salt lake area? I have a husky 372 and can limb and buck it if you want

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O-town area. Thanks for the offer, but I'll dig up a saw somewhere for sure.

Update: I got the first bid back 20 seconds after posting ^^^. So the difference in 'cut the tree down and make it all disappear' vs. 'cut it and let it lay where the pieces fall' is only about $250!?! Am I wrong to think that bucking, limbing and hauling of a 75 foot tall tree is more work than $250 worth? Are they selling the firewood or something? At any rate, if the other bids come back like that then it's probably not worth my time to DYI the clean up.

[bodywhomper]

That’s surprising. Are they chipping the slash? Is any part of the tree marketable from the logs to the use for firewood to the chipped mulch?

[Meadow Skipper]

O-town area. Thanks for the offer, but I'll dig up a saw somewhere for sure.

Update: I got the first bid back 20 seconds after posting ^^^. So the difference in 'cut the tree down and make it all disappear' vs. 'cut it and let it lay where the pieces fall' is only about $250!?! Am I wrong to think that bucking, limbing and hauling of a 75 foot tall tree is more work than $250 worth? Are they selling the firewood or something? At any rate, if the other bids come back like that then it's probably not worth my time to DYI the clean up.

I’d go with the full ride. I really hate making dump runs with slash.

[zion zig zag]

That’s surprising. Are they chipping the slash? Is any part of the tree marketable from the logs to the use for firewood to the chipped mulch?

Yeah, I have no idea what the market is for firewood/mulch. I can’t imagine it’s good for anything other than that. But damn, that seems like a lot of labor for $250ish unless it’s worth something right?

[bodywhomper]

Yeah, I have no idea what the market is for firewood/mulch. I can’t imagine it’s good for anything other than that. But damn, that seems like a lot of labor for $250ish unless it’s worth something right?

Even if they are getting firewood of it, it still doesn't pencil out ala carte style in my mind. I saw hundreds of large pine trees dropped in my hood the past few years by the utility contractors. They'd have much smaller crews if they were not chipping/hauling and much bigger crews if they were hauling the whole thing away (this was rare). My obs of them using a bucket truck is minimal.

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[Core Shot]

Yes chain is moving, it bogs further if I hit the throttle right away, then after it settles down it will rev up from what I recall. Would have to do it again to be sure. Fuel vent seems like it would make sense.

Open high speed jet
Need more fuel

[zion zig zag]

Just as an update and another WTF, I have a second bid in for removal of the tree.

1st bid was: $1500 for full service (take down and clean up/haul away) and $1200 for take down only, DYI clean up.
2nd bid was: $3150 for full service and $1100 for take down only.

One of those guys has a very different metric for clean up bidding.

[bodywhomper]

they are definitely thinking about the work differently and have a different bidding method. you could possibly reach-out to rbtree about methods of bidding this type of work to help you be informed.

[Meadow Skipper]

Just as an update and another WTF, I have a second bid in for removal of the tree.

1st bid was: $1500 for full service (take down and clean up/haul away) and $1200 for take down only, DYI clean up.
2nd bid was: $3150 for full service and $1100 for take down only.

One of those guys has a very different metric for clean up bidding.

Makes me think you should be asking for some references on the low bidder.

[Game Over]

Proof of license and insurance at the very least.

[zion zig zag]

they are definitely thinking about the work differently and have a different bidding method. you could possibly reach-out to rbtree about methods of bidding this type of work to help you be informed.

Forgot about RBTree. Has he been around lately?

As far as the low bidder possibly being shady, they are the bigger, well known company around here.

[Bruce Springskiin]

First day out with the battery powered saw this weekend. I was curious what it could do, so I cut with it primarily. For this truck load. Used the gas saw the next day to compare. This is the 160 with a 10” bar


This was the result off of just over one charge. I made 3 more cuts on the big log on top with a fresh battery. Granted it was new, the chain was sharp, and the Wood was dry pine. But it exceeded my expectation.
I will be interested to see how it and the batteries hold up over time. The saw is aimed at the suburban DIY trimming a few branches here and there.
Likes: Quiet, light, safer to walk around with, nimble for limbing, or a less than safe high reach.
Dislikes: slower than gas, you won’t be picking up rugged girls with two stroke fumes at the bar, weight is probably similar or more than a little gas saw.


- I am here for the stoke

[riser4]

How the battery performs over time is my concern. I am definitely in the suburban DIY category. I worry that if I don't use it for many months, will I have a full battery when I need it? And will my sporadic use pattern fuck up the battery? We have a hard enough time with the cordless drills. And my typical cutting needs are maple and cedar.

[whipski]

Beefy plastic pallets deck screwed hold 1/2cord

best girlfriend ever! Love that 20" Stihl too

interior of my backcountry hut

[jackstraw]

First day out with the battery powered saw this weekend. I was curious what it could do, so I cut with it primarily. For this truck load. Used the gas saw the next day to compare. This is the 160 with a 10” bar


This was the result off of just over one charge. I made 3 more cuts on the big log on top with a fresh battery. Granted it was new, the chain was sharp, and the Wood was dry pine. But it exceeded my expectation.
I will be interested to see how it and the batteries hold up over time. The saw is aimed at the suburban DIY trimming a few branches here and there.
Likes: Quiet, light, safer to walk around with, nimble for limbing, or a less than safe high reach.
Dislikes: slower than gas, you won’t be picking up rugged girls with two stroke fumes at the bar, weight is probably similar or more than a little gas saw.


- I am here for the stoke

I think the battery that comes with that is 227wh which is 6.3AH.

The Milwaukee saw comes with a 12.0AH battery. The thing lasts a long time.

The Stihl is 36v and Milw is 18v. Someone can do the math on the power, but the 12.0 I believe will last longer.
I would give the edge to Milwaukee on electric motors since they've been in it so long.

[zion zig zag]

Chainsaw porn. 261 and 461


This tree needed the extra reach of the 461. Rounds were 44” across where I started at the base.

[BCMtnHound]

The sawdust by the bar of the 461 is beautiful. Either a new chain or you know your files. Kudos if the latter

[XXX-er]

yeah i got the 261 i am running about 50 hrs a year, its had 2 oiler problems in 5 yrs but otherwise ran great

we got smaller stems up the hill so Sthil or Husky all the guys I am cutting ski runs with up are running the smaller pro quality saws the 261/346xp/550xp/ 0290 there is no need for anything bigger

Besides lower saw weight these saws just sip fuel which is important if you gotta hike your gear/fuel/oil up and down the run

the new guy has a low end jonsered and it sounds pretty anemic