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    We have a STRONG squad of moms on my son's hockey team for next season.

    Always makes going to the rink a little easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    little update on this, coach is officially fired..

    there have been two board of ed. meetings with hundreds of parents and former players coming out of the woodworks. shit is crazy. apparently once the coach learned he was officially fired he let a couple emails slip to the press that were between him and the high school AD, who was telling him if he didn't play the BOE president's son more, bad shit was going to happen. priceless!
    Yeah, pretty wild: http://www.nj.com/hssn-mms/2017/05/m..._texts_e-.html

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    A big part of the problem is that AD's don't go to bat for their coaches. If there are health/safety issues or conduct unbecoming, an AD should fire the coach. If not, an AD should support his employees and be the one taking the heat. I live next to a school district where the AD will not support his coaches in any manner with regards to parental involvement and the sports teams are bedlam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtown View Post
    First season of oldest playing travel sports (hockey), I help coach and my wife tells me parents in our team brought a cooler of beer to the stands and we're hammering beers during the game. Now I like a few beers but it's 7-9 yr old hockey and at 12:30pm on a Sat...anyone else seen this? Can't we wait till, say, 4:00 to have a beer? No wonder asshole parents get in fights in the stands
    So in our nape of the woods our sons are pretty heavy into tournament level tennis. a while back MT jr gets a doubles partner in a big regional tournament "jones." Jones is a stud muffin based on his win/loss record and looking back hellva nice kid, MT jr fired up to have him as a partrner.

    The jones' have four kids registered in the tourney, which is one hell of a thing to manage (matches are spread over several days over a 20 mile radius, different times, etc.). So both Jones parents show up about midway thorugh the first round doubles match throwin down screwdrivers. Only time I noted parents drinking, looking back over maybe 200+ tournaments. They offered but it's like a 75 mile drive back after the match so I declined.
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    Girl who 'looks like boy' reason for soccer DQ http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/art...team-looks-boy
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    Nebraska soccer tournament bans 8-year-old girl's team because she 'looks like a boy'

    5:55 PM PT

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    The family of an 8-year-old soccer player said her team was disqualified from a tournament in Nebraska because organizers thought she was a boy.

    Mili Hernandez, who is one of the best players of the Omaha Azzuri Cachorros's 11-year-old squad, was about to play in the finals of the Springfield Soccer Club tournament on Sunday when she was told that her team had been disqualified because she looks like a boy.

    Hernandez's parents claimed they showed organizers her insurance card to prove their daughter, who wears short hair, is a girl.

    "Just because I look like a boy doesn't mean I am a boy," Mili told local TV station WOWT 6. "They don't have a reason to kick the whole club out."

    Mili's father Gerardo Hernandez said his daughter "was in shock. She was crying after they told us... They made her cry."

    After hearing Mili's story, U.S. soccer legends Mia Hamm and Amy Wambach showed their support on Twitter. Hamm invited Mili to her soccer academy and Wambach sent her a message.

    According to WOWT, organizers told Mili's family they can file an appeal to the Nebraska State Soccer Association to challenge the disqualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    Girl who 'looks like boy' reason for soccer DQ http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/art...team-looks-boy
    via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

    Nebraska soccer tournament bans 8-year-old girl's team because she 'looks like a boy'

    5:55 PM PT

    ESPN.com news services

    The family of an 8-year-old soccer player said her team was disqualified from a tournament in Nebraska because organizers thought she was a boy.

    Mili Hernandez, who is one of the best players of the Omaha Azzuri Cachorros's 11-year-old squad, was about to play in the finals of the Springfield Soccer Club tournament on Sunday when she was told that her team had been disqualified because she looks like a boy.

    Hernandez's parents claimed they showed organizers her insurance card to prove their daughter, who wears short hair, is a girl.

    "Just because I look like a boy doesn't mean I am a boy," Mili told local TV station WOWT 6. "They don't have a reason to kick the whole club out."

    Mili's father Gerardo Hernandez said his daughter "was in shock. She was crying after they told us... They made her cry."

    After hearing Mili's story, U.S. soccer legends Mia Hamm and Amy Wambach showed their support on Twitter. Hamm invited Mili to her soccer academy and Wambach sent her a message.

    According to WOWT, organizers told Mili's family they can file an appeal to the Nebraska State Soccer Association to challenge the disqualification.
    That's pretty fucked up. Overly zealous sport parents are the worst.

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    It's literally always some sort of BS going on with coaching hockey.

    I now coach my son and my daughter.

    So the clueless housewife that's the coordinator for my daughter's age group told one of the other dad's that he's the head coach of my daughter's team, because he was the first to volunteer. She did this 3 weeks before registration was over and a week before we registered

    I know the guy. He might just be the biggest fucking idiot on the planet. Zero hockey knowledge...douchebag...negative all the time...yells at his special needs son constantly...barely able to communicate with kids...no experience as head coach (for a reason)...can't manage himself let alone a group of 6 and 7 yr olds.

    I've been a head coach for about 10 yrs and known by everyone in the organization that I'm one of the better ones...well, except the person in charge of picking the coach

    So now I'm the asshole that has to rock the boat and tell this lady he's the worst possibly option and a complete shithead, and that he needs to get to the back of the bus. She's really meek and obviously wants nothing to do with confrontation so this is a nightmare.

    Super fun dealing with this shit every year.
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    it's not that important - seriously - take the kid out - put her on another team

    you can't control what the coordinator does, but you can control what your kid does

    it's not that hard to explain to your daughter. I was in the same position once and put my son on another team. to this day the coach hates me, and they are an ass to my ex-wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    it's not that important - seriously - take the kid out - put her on another team

    you can't control what the coordinator does, but you can control what your kid does

    it's not that hard to explain to your daughter. I was in the same position once and put my son on another team. to this day the coach hates me, and they are an ass to my ex-wife.
    All the girls are on the same team...which is a great idea I think. They'll have way more fun as a group than split up.

    So I don't want her on another team.

    The coordinator is new and just doesn't get it. Unfortunately I have to speak up and be a pain in her ass.

    This guy wasn't even allowed to be an assistant last year (his older daughter was on my son's team last year) because he's so clueless and we had enough guys that aren't
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    Have someone loose his background check approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booner View Post
    All the girls are on the same team...which is a great idea I think. They'll have way more fun as a group than split up.

    So I don't want her on another team.

    The coordinator is new and just doesn't get it. Unfortunately I have to speak up and be a pain in her ass.

    This guy wasn't even allowed to be an assistant last year (his older daughter was on my son's team last year) because he's so clueless and we had enough guys that aren't
    ok. you know best - you know the org and the history and I know you were just venting

    good luck

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    Boomer has anger and control issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Boomer has anger and control issues.
    Let's say you're an expert in your field. You've been doing it for 20 yrs and you're well respected and successful.

    You volunteer to teach a group on the subject...for 8 months...3 days a week

    Then you find out some guy that watched a couple youtube vids on the subject you're an expert in has been told he's going to run the show. This guy also happens to be a douchebag that nobody likes or wants around.

    Make sense now?

    Yer damn right I'm trying to control the situation

    Every parent on the team last year can't stand this guy. Total weirdo too
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    Quote Originally Posted by booner View Post
    It's literally always some sort of BS going on with coaching hockey.

    I now coach my son and my daughter.

    So the clueless housewife that's the coordinator for my daughter's age group told one of the other dad's that he's the head coach of my daughter's team, because he was the first to volunteer. She did this 3 weeks before registration was over and a week before we registered

    I know the guy. He might just be the biggest fucking idiot on the planet. Zero hockey knowledge...douchebag...negative all the time...yells at his special needs son constantly...barely able to communicate with kids...no experience as head coach (for a reason)...can't manage himself let alone a group of 6 and 7 yr olds.

    I've been a head coach for about 10 yrs and known by everyone in the organization that I'm one of the better ones...well, except the person in charge of picking the coach

    So now I'm the asshole that has to rock the boat and tell this lady he's the worst possibly option and a complete shithead, and that he needs to get to the back of the bus. She's really meek and obviously wants nothing to do with confrontation so this is a nightmare.

    Super fun dealing with this shit every year.
    Get a group of moms to express concern over the choice, and provide a list of more experienced coaches who might take over. The director will be less likely to ignore a group of moms saying they're uncomfortable with how this guy talks to kids, and the list of more experienced options gives her a way of removing the guy from the job without coming out and saying he's an asshole.

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    Never, ever get moms involved. They'll turn on you like a pack of wolves and devour the flesh off your bones, leaving your skate-wearing skeleton laying in a pool of blood at the blue line.

    I'd just start a rumor that he abuses Ambien.
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    Ha Yeah I try to minimize unnecessary communication with the parents. Too many crazies out there

    I have someone on the board I can call and ask him to help her with the situation if I can't work it out.

    I've told her we should have a phone call because emailing about shit like this isn't going to get it done
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    my 12 year old plays on one of the top 2-3 soccer teams in the state in his age group. his coach sent this out to the team before the semifinals of a tournament they played in recently.

    "The coach’s role is NOT to provide all the answers so that the kids win the game today. The coach’s role IS to provide ideas and pictures that help kids think in ways that will help them solve problems. A great deal of coaches at the youth level spend too much time organizing and controlling players, step for step, or play by play. The youth coach’s responsibility is to set up environments that allow for these repetitions in some sort of fun, competitive situation that allows for a balance of some guidance and a lot of “doing” by the player. Gaining experience by doing, by trying, by succeeding and by failing – are all central to how kids learn. “Learning is the kindling of the flame, not the filling of the vessel.“

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    Well, did it inspire them?
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    Sounds like he gets it

    I have no respect for the coaches out there, coaching average to below avg talent...kids not even 12 yrs old...saying anyone not coaching to win is doing it wrong.

    Fuck off

    It's about teaching the kids the tools to win and how to work hard to earn it. There's definitely brief moments where you can insert the skilled players for a minute to try to make something happen, but those moments rarely happen.

    And it's about prepping kids for the next level, whatever it may be.

    The coaches that teach kids to do things like, get the ball to the most skilled players and let them do the scoring, are complete pieces of shit IMO.

    My goal this year, with the 12 yr olds on the hockey team, is to help them get closer to being able to be a decent HS player, and just to be able to make the team for some of them.

    I have a below avg talent pool this year and half the kids are on the path of not being able to make their HS team. None of them realize it so my goal is to try to avoid the disappointment they're headed towards.

    Hockey is good around here. Half the kids play 10 yrs just to find out they can't even make the HS team. I don't want to see that happen to the kids I coach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Well, did it inspire them?
    i think it was more targeted for the parents, but they did end up winning the final 4-2 after being down 2-0 early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booner View Post
    I have a below avg talent pool this year
    What about the moms?

    Quote Originally Posted by getoutside View Post
    i think it was more targeted for the parents, but they did end up winning the final 4-2 after being down 2-0 early.
    Nice.
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    My kids just started playing HS soccer. Coach had a meeting with parents and players and had to say that playing time will not be even. No shit! Crazy that in today’s sports world parents need to be told that.


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    Just started the hockey season. Sept to May and I'm always glad when it's over and never excited to start.

    Now that I'm back in it I remember how much I really enjoy it. I'll be done with it and ready to golf by April
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    What about the moms?

    I like where yer head's at

    Today was last day of tryouts and I saw a mom walk in that looked like Eva Longoria's hotter sister. VERY nice girl

    I pray to Jeesas I picked her kid cause I have no idea who she is
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    Had a very disturbing incident last night at practice. 15th yr of coaching and the worst thing that I've been involved in yet.

    We were sharing the ice with another team and I've coached most of the other team...split team scrimmage and couple of the coaches were skating too...myself included

    Back story...The girl involved has a long history...she and her mother are the number one worst child/parent combo I've ever dealt with out of approx 150 kids I've coached. They HATE me cause I've done the unthinkable and told the daughter to knock it off when she's punching people at 7 yrs old, telling people she's gonna fuck them up at 11 yrs old, etc...countless incidents with her and zero accountability from mom...always a victim

    The girl mistakenly went on the ice and had to be told it wasn't her turn and she started yelling at me cause she thought I was stealing her ice time in the confusion...I didn't respond

    Couple shifts later I was talking to all the girls about a coaching point and this girl starts yelling at me about stealing her ice time...YELLING...and won't stop. I don't engage...let her go on and when she takes a breath I say...wow, that's really inappropriate. Any other kid I would have sent packing but I know her well...extremely unstable and angry and that would only make it worse. Never said anything else to her and she left crying shortly after when I was on the ice

    Skate ends and I go right up to the mom and tell her what happened. Mom responds with...well she says you told her she doesn't know what she's doing out her,etc etc. I hadn't even talked to her. Told mom that never happened...mom told me I'm lying

    This woman and her husband are best friends with our GM. Their daughter is really disturbed and scary...like shaking and completely blacked out crazy when she's yelling at me

    I just submitted my application for HC next yr that goes straight to their best friend the GM...who is not a good guy.

    I'm beside myself right now...I barely slept last night
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