These days compared to when? 5 pound (shaped) skis have always been considered heavy. Granted, those are wider and probably weigh the same as a lot of 90mm skis in early 2000's, I would guess.
These days compared to when? 5 pound (shaped) skis have always been considered heavy. Granted, those are wider and probably weigh the same as a lot of 90mm skis in early 2000's, I would guess.
Damn it. That's what I was afraid of.
The category of decently stiff, heavy, metal infused skis that are ~105 - 110mm is tiny right now. And its even smaller if you want a reasonably long radius. Options are Cochise, Monster, Invictus, ....
My Cochises died, so I've been looking for a replacement. In the mean time, I've been back on my old XXL's. I'd forgotten how fucking awesome that ski is. I'd kill for an XXL that's identical in every way, just with a tweaked tip shape and some reasonable early rise.
But every goddamn company is making their skis lighter, giving them more sidecut, removing the metal, and basically just creating chattery shit sticks that deflect and bounce around at any speed over 8mph. Ever since Rossi made a killing on the Soul 7, every company has been trying to capture a slice of that pie. But how many fucking options does the gaping majority really need? There's more stiff, heavy, straight chargers in the fat pow ski category than there are in the mid fat daily driver category, which is ridiculous. Comp skis are fun, but not every day's a pow day, and I want something heavy and damp, and a bit narrower for blasting through crud.
Hopefully someone, somewhere will pull their head out of their ass and build a real ski again. There's a reason there's like 10 different "what's an xxl replacement" threads on this forum, and the industry is rapidly moving towards a situation where there isn't a single ski that's even close. That's an underserved demographic.
/rant
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Probably, but I'd point out that
1) lots of companies still make burly skis in the ~115mm+ category. Surely the market for those skis is even smaller than a 105mm daily driver
2) blizzard seems to do well with the cochise - I see them all over the place
and
3) companies are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They're dumbing down their chargers. Which just makes a ski that isn't as accessible as something like a soul 7, and isn't as capable as it could be, so you end up with something that sucks for everyone.
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I liked the OG Cochise because it was like a slightly narrower katana. I like the full rocker even though it was very slight. I have the confession now and wish they still made the katana. But I like slarvier skis. Havent tried the newer cochises, but i assume its the same as the confession is to the katana in terms of profile and how it skis. Gonna scour ebay for OG cochises in 185. I own the 191 carbon V Werks Katana for backcountry and have used them at the resort a couple times and they are way too light. Bring back the metal laminate skis with full, slight, rocker
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Well, there is the Down SD 105 , only in 202 cm length for now. I don't know what the odds are that we'll ever see it in shorter length...
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Not complaining about companies doing limited runs of their iconic chargers from time to time like Blizzard with the OG Bodacious or Dynastar with the LPR 105. Allows to refill the quiver for many years to come. I wish Völkl would do the same with the OG Katanas.
BTW, is Bodacious gone for the next year?
They just need to do a OG Cochise repress as well. No reason to remake a ski that works.
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18/19 Moment Skis preview...
Bibby is now known as the Wildcat. Commander is a new series of chargers (have not been on them yet). Deathwish is a bit stiffer in tip and tail (tried these and loved them.)
http://www.mmntskis.com/
Is the Commander a return of the old Belefonte? Sept with a little bit-o-metal?
FYI, got just a little bit of time on the new Liberty V92 at this weeks WWSRA demo at Mission. Could this be a possible substitute for the M3 Mantra??? Trying to get more time on them in the near future and will file a report if I do.
Wheres the commander 118? The governor was their best ski IMO..
Also, no 190+ lengths on freeride skis? Moments 188 is more like 186.
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That's not all the skis for 18/19...
Deathwish, Wildcat, Wildcat Tour come in a 190...
Pretty sure you can always order and older mold...such as the Comi, Governor etc. Just give them a shout.
i must admit to having pretty much decided to go with the biddy tour and their 106 tour ski, and then - due to being somewhat underwhelmed by Moments correspondance - going with on3p instead. Kinda glad i did. Not because i think the Moments are any less of a ski - they're not - but for ditching the weight focus on my resort/touring combo skis once and for all will leave me happier in the long run i think. I am sure i will get some bibbys (or whatever they are called) sooner or later thoughThat being said, i truly love my current quiver of on3ps and am quite excited for their 2018/19 range - things are looking good ( i won't be getting any of them having completed my perfect quiver
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Phil,
As it was described to me the Liberty V models get progressively more burly as you go up in waist width (i.e. the 92 is relatively more aggressive than the 82) They only had the 179 length available (only a couple of 186's had been pressed) so I was a little worried that I would overpower the ski (5'11" 210lb). I mostly end up on the longest lengths of a ski. This 179 V92, however, was just about perfect for me. Absolutely railed on the bulletproof at speed and didn't at all notice any of the pushed up piles. For the given, refrozen, shitty, bulletproof conditions the V92 was hands down the best ski I tried at the Mission demo. From what I can tell from just a few runs on each the V92 179 is a lot more ski than the M5 Mantra 177. Need to try both in a wider variety of conditions. So, the V92 is definitely worth investigating further. You guys on the east coast need to have this V series on your radar.
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