ON3P SKIS Discussion

[paal]

Reduced length or height of that tail rocker? (or both?)

[Ghetto.Creek]

I'm still waiting to hear the recommended mount point..


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[SeatownSlackey]

just put my moolah where my moocher is.

Now time to sell some shit before the next cc statement meets mrs. slackey's gaze

[Norseman]

just put my moolah where my moocher is. [emoji3][emoji3]

Now time to sell some shit before the next cc statement meets mrs. slackey's gaze

Fuck yeah man!

[Banh Mi]

just put my moolah where my moocher is.

Now time to sell some shit before the next cc statement meets mrs. slackey's gaze

What flex did you go for?


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[SeatownSlackey]

Tweener. +1.5

Don't you dare go second guessing full Aever now [emoji6]

[Glenfield]

Know this comes up a bit but thought I'd share as saw someone else umming and ahhing about this the other day also. Below is an email chain with the good folks at ON3P re: how to build out a quiver for low-snow around a 186 Jeffrey 114 ... Wanted to share their response for others benefits. Worth calling out that their customer engagement is off the charts too but everyone here has probably picked that up.

Ended up going with a 1. Kartel 108, 2. keeping the Jeff 114 for filled-in powder days and 3. Running a pair of protests for the highest of tides (fingers crossed). I actually reckon Ill sub out the Jeff's next year for a pair of BGs and create a bit of a 2.5 ski that bridges the Kartel into the Protests.

My question:
Hey guys, keep up the good work! Your products rock and your customer engagement on TGR and Newschoolers is unreal ... I'm the proud owner of a pair of 186 ON3P Jeffreys. Great ski but definitely more burly than I was expecting ... totally fine as have ended up skiing them directionally with straight airs and hits only and had a blast. I had bought the J's thinking I'd be popping and spinning all over the hill. Truth is, I don't go big enough in the air with enough conviction and skill to get that out of the ski (particularly at my size ... I know others do). I'm trying to work out whether I play to my strengths (fall line, straight hits) or try tease out some inner jibbiness that used to be there. So in a round about way, my question is this:1. Is the Kartel 98 too jibby for the low snow days where I might make 1000 turns but only look to spin a couple of times? 2. Is it a good bridge to help me spend 90% of crap days working on said jibbiness that I can translate into my big(ger) mountain riding? 3. Should I just sell the 186 Js and size down in the 108 Kartels and run a 1 ski do everything setup for all but the biggest days?Basically, want to get to a spot where my days on the Jeffrey are more expressive. I'm 5'9" 176lbs (formerly of 185lbs fame) and the best skier on the mountain (jks). know its a dissertation but any help with these existential questions would be much appreciated in these dog days before winterGood folks at ON3Ps response:

Hey Tom,

Thanks for the note and the kind words

At your size, I can definitely see how a 186 Jeffery feels like a lot of ski. Being a similar stature (5'10, 180lbs), I've gone through a similar quiver evolution; I started on a dead center mounted 186 Jeffery 110, and have since moved over to a 181 Kartel 108 mounted at -2. 50/50 all mountain/park skier, and the 108 slays it everywhere, everyday.

Not sure whether you have a Jeff 110 or 114 (the 110 was a little softer than the 114), but either way the main update that the Kartel received from the Jeffery was that we lengthened the effective edge in the tail, giving a little more stability and length in the rear. We also modified the tip/tail taper so it planes more effectively, along with smoother and more intuitive edge to edge transfer. I now feel equal increased agility/playfulness along with increased stability/float on my K108s, even though they're a shorter, slightly narrower ski.

As far as K98 vs. K108 goes, it really just depends on your location and priorities. If you would prioritize hardpack performance and edge grip, the narrower waist of the 98 would obviously be beneficial. However, the K108 definitely holds its own on west coast hardpack, and provides a marked increase in float on bigger days. Overall, I think you gain more float out of the 108 than you gain in edge grip with the 98, if that makes sense. You can always get used to a wider ski in the park, but you can't make a narrower ski float like a wider ski will.

Hope that helps a bit. Feel free to reach out if you have anymore questions. Thanks!

[Kopi_Red]

just put my moolah where my moocher is. [emoji3][emoji3]

Now time to sell some shit before the next cc statement meets mrs. slackey's gaze

Full Aever?

[Banh Mi]

Tweener. +1.5

Don't you dare go second guessing full Aever now [emoji6]

Definitely not second guessing lol. I want a beast for Big Sky..

However I am thinking of getting another pair, with the 1.5x carbon. Would like to have one pair 2x, and one pair 1.5x.

I have to sell 3 pairs of skis before I do that though.


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[iggyskier]

Reduced length or height of that tail rocker? (or both?)

Similar length, 1.75cm lower final tail height.

[Bdevil17]

Definitely not second guessing lol. I want a beast for Big Sky..

However I am thinking of getting another pair, with the 1.5x carbon. Would like to have one pair 2x, and one pair 1.5x.

I have to sell 3 pairs of skis before I do that though.


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Whatcha gonna sell 😎😎😎

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[Banh Mi]

Hope you like em.

I appreciate this big time, I will do my part and spread the word. I already tell everyone that On3p makes the BEST skis around..

You guys rock!

I’m probably gonna get another pair. Question is, do I go regular flex or 1.5x?

Whatcha gonna sell [emoji41][emoji41][emoji41]

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Hellbents, BG Tours, and idk what else yet.



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[PowTron]

Have a handful of Supergoat orders that came in. Thanks to those that are stepping up!

Remember pre-sale ends 11/6, just sayin'.

[Banh Mi]

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[puma]

I love the concept of these SGs, but am not sure i am man/skier enough for them!

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[Banh Mi]

There’s only one way to find out!


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[undertow2]

I am so on the fence... My quiver is out of control, but holy shit at 6'4" and 205lbs these skis would fit my Clydesdale physique... If I did not have new 194 Qs and brand new 189 108s this year it would be a no brainier...

The Bucks are playing PSU this weekend so no doubt heavy drinking will take place so drunk buying is a very strong possibility...

[Ghetto.Creek]

I am so on the fence... My quiver is out of control, but holy shit at 6'4" and 205lbs these skis would fit my Clydesdale physique... If I did not have new 194 Qs and brand new 189 108s this year it would be a no brainier...

The Bucks are playing PSU this weekend so no doubt heavy drinking will take place so drunk buying is a very strong possibility...

So are you a Bucks or Penn fan?

I say go for it, if you need to sell the Qs just do it.. you know you want the SG. Also, impaired shopping is the best and the worst. That's why I try not to drink too much, because I make bad (good?) decisions...

[Banh Mi]

so drunk buying is a very strong possibility...

LOL. Story of my life. Every time on the fence, a couple beers helps me make the right decision. Truth comes out after a few. No regrets.

You are the perfect size for these bad boys. Who knows when they will make them again. Go with the 1.5x carbon.

[TahoeJ]

Got any pictures of the Gunmetal and Garnet top sheets?

Not going super goat... but may be upgrading my regular goats after 4-5 years and passing along the old ones to a friend.

[iggyskier]

Got any pictures of the Gunmetal and Garnet top sheets?

Not going super goat... but may be upgrading my regular goats after 4-5 years and passing along the old ones to a friend.

First time we've offered them is on the SuperGoats - so no photos yet.

[Banh Mi]

Garnet looks ultra classy


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[OldMil]

I am so tempted to pick up a pair of SG's even though I need another pair of skis like I need a hole in me head. But, since I am a Mt Hood local, I feel like I should own at least 1 pair of ON3P's and these are right up my alley. I've never skied or even flexed a standard pair of BG's so can somebody give me some stiffness reference points to go on? I've been on mostly Bluehouse skis for the past few years as they pretty much gave those things away and I have a garage full of them. I have a couple of pairs of Bluehouse Shoots (191cm) which are the stiffest ski I've ever been on or flexed and they are no problem for me- I even have a pair mounted tele. I am 6' and ~215 lbs and ski fairly aggressively/fast. Should I play it safe and get the 1.5's or step up to the Aevergreene's? Appreciate any input from those experienced with these. Thanks.

[auvgeek]

ON3P doesn't make skis that aren't any fun to ski. I would say go Aevergreene.

[Bruce Springskiin]

Oldmil, I am the same size as you, been on some stiff skis, and Telemark also. I went 1.5. Unlike the shoots and other stiff bastards of years past the shape of the goats will be a lot easier to turn. On the regular 189 last spring, it skied great in spring mashed potatoes but felt much shorter than the 189 might suggest. I am expecting more comfort at speed and a bigger landing platform with a tip that will not tunnel in new snow as much. As a Hood skier, it is about time.