MAKE TAHOE DEEP AGAIN ~ 2016/17 OFISHUL SNOW/FOOD/WHINE & STOKE THREAD

**Powcruzer** · 05-02-2017, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Robojerry

^ Not saying it won't rain this weekend but if you're getting your weather forecasts from weatherwest you are going to be sorely disappointed in the longrun. Daniel is a climatologist running a meteorology blog. He forecasted noah's ark flood conditions all fall going into last winter (and maintained that forecast deep into the winter when ever single data point suggested something else), then predicted a return to dustbowl-like drought this fall into the wettest winter in history. And that's nothing compared to the idiots posting in the comments thread on his blog.

For what it's worth, Mark Sponsler's stormsurf (http://www.stormsurf.com/) weekly forecast has hit the nail directly on the head consistently week after week in the 3 years I've been following it.

Hear ya. weather west only mentioned cause I poached his image of cut off cause hadn't seen it on other outlets and don't have bias pro con on guy he just another resource. Regardless a pattern change is afoot on all models.

**mcski** · 05-02-2017, 07:07 PM

Ya opensnow for one has been pretty on updates since march.

**dookeyXXX** · 05-02-2017, 07:54 PM

Sunday at AM was decent. Rode from 9ish until 2 with an uber short lunch break. Snow stayed decent all during that time (i.e. no stickiness, and I was on skinny sticks with no recent waxing).

Monday, Sunrise Bowl at the top of Tahoe/Donner was semi-corn near the top of Donner Ridge around 11 am. Got a little schloppy on my way back to the truck, but I got some quick/easy laps in.

A week ago Friday, when I was at Boreal, I noticed a few wet slides on some of the aspects on Donner Pass ("Poop Chute", for example). Also, the road into Castle Peak is still about 5ft+ hight at 80. Long skin in or sleds needed. The parking lot at Boreal was surrounded by at least 10ft+ snow walls (you couldn't see 80).
Heard that Jackson Meadows/Mt. Lola area is similar (heard that during a recent search/rescue the Forest Service blew up a coupla sleds just trying to get skiers out to the search starting point; road is covered something deep).

**mcski** · 05-02-2017, 08:54 PM

Dookie - where u been? You don't post much anymore. Kinda patchy attendance

**Robojerry** · 05-02-2017, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Powcruzer

Hear ya. weather west only mentioned cause I poached his image of cut off cause hadn't seen it on other outlets and don't have bias pro con on guy he just another resource. Regardless a pattern change is afoot on all models.

Yeah, gotchya. That comes from tropical tidbits (http://www.tropicaltidbits.com) which is another really good resource for anyone else that enjoys wasting away hours of their life pining over things out of anyone's control as much as I do.

**Ottime** · 05-03-2017, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Robojerry

Yeah, the surf report. If you watch his weekly videos he goes deep into ocean oscillations, teleconnections, etc. That is what drives the weather on the coast.

Weatherwest's forecasts are based almost entirely on statistics. He also tends to hyperbolize.

Weatherwest loves the hyperbole. It seems like every post is just one before the end of times.

Never watched (or knew they existed) the storm surf videos. Will add to to do list.

**dookeyXXX** · 05-03-2017, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by mcski

Dookie - where u been? You don't post much anymore. Kinda patchy attendance

just not the same thread w/o Raccoonface.

plus, i work all season teaching folks how to properly twist their legs down the slopes and nobody around here wants to hear me ramble on about Gnarthstar's amazing conditions.

however, given that i mostly engage in spring/summer patch skiing, patchy attendance seems rather apropos, no?

**Skiwald** · 05-03-2017, 01:31 PM

Anyone been up pyramid lately?

**gimpy** · 05-03-2017, 07:57 PM

Yesterday even east lines at cp at 9:00 were not great from lack of freezing temps and I'm sure today was even moreso. Sposed to lock up again this weekend but until then, the groomed and skier compacted slopes on closed resorts/side country is gonna perform best

**Powcruzer** · 05-03-2017, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by gimpy

Yesterday even east lines at cp at 9:00 were not great from lack of freezing temps and I'm sure today was even moreso. Sposed to lock up again this weekend but until then, the groomed and skier compacted slopes on closed resorts/side country is gonna perform best

True dat. Ran last 2 days. Early. Last night snotel cp temps crept up just a couple degrees from night before. Big dif in snowpack. Rot moved up mtn and was one n done on solar aspects. Interested to hear a thought or comment on how north performed in what is sitch of record/near record temps popping up around our home zone. Btw aint going into groomed or side country cause my bike is whining for a spin. South aspect rim and corral i hear is kinda good. Big skier upside is huge snowpack gonna recycle after this disturbance (which could be a few days +) and the corn harvester gonna gas up again.

**TahoeBC** · 05-03-2017, 10:29 PM

South side of Tahoe mountain is worth hitting up for a local mountain bike ride right now

**mdskier** · 05-04-2017, 02:53 AM

Are we crappy leg breaking mush now due to no freezing at night ?

**Powcruzer** · 05-04-2017, 06:34 PM

Just cause I'm bored. Checked in on the Euros (who generally had a forgettable season). And we talk about shit show here...

Stubai on friday was deepest i've seen all winter. Saturaday was an absolute shit show. Never seen anything like the crowds out. People were skiing over avy debris where someone was still sitting with an deployed airbag. I've never seen so many people behave like lemmings, skiing areas that were obviously avy prone. I'm just glad not more happend! We got out of there sharpish.

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Kinda bad ass. Wonder how the descent went.

**Skiwald** · 05-04-2017, 10:03 PM

Hit Pyramid today. Saw a 70+ year old on snowshoes hiking solo on his way down from the summit. He looked like he could go for a few more laps. Props to him cuz he's almost twice my age and walked down. So much for my ego, I'm pretty damn tired after today. Anyway, snow was def sticky with today's temps. Snow def froze overnight up high but that changed quickly on the descent. Anything steep was soughing but only the top 2-3 inches. Evidence of Multiple old slides did not seem to run far or step down. We avoided anything steep regardless given the temps and sticky snow.

**mcski** · 05-05-2017, 02:48 PM

What are expert sources forecasting the snow level for the weekend systems?

**tahoearmada** · 05-05-2017, 04:36 PM

8000 during the day tomorrow, 7000 by late afternoon, 6500 tomorrow night!

**mcski** · 05-05-2017, 07:17 PM

Hmm Sunday Sunday Sunday!

**lepistoir** · 05-06-2017, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Skiwald

Hit Pyramid today. Saw a 70+ year old on snowshoes hiking solo on his way down from the summit. He looked like he could go for a few more laps. Props to him cuz he's almost twice my age and walked down. So much for my ego, I'm pretty damn tired after today. Anyway, snow was def sticky with today's temps. Snow def froze overnight up high but that changed quickly on the descent. Anything steep was soughing but only the top 2-3 inches. Evidence of Multiple old slides did not seem to run far or step down. We avoided anything steep regardless given the temps and sticky snow.

How did you approach? Wondering if twin bridges is burnt

**lepistoir** · 05-06-2017, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by dookey67

A week ago Friday, when I was at Boreal, I noticed a few wet slides on some of the aspects on Donner Pass ("Poop Chute", for example). Also, the road into Castle Peak is still about 5ft+ hight at 80. Long skin in or sleds needed. The parking lot at Boreal was surrounded by at least 10ft+ snow walls (you couldn't see 80).
Heard that Jackson Meadows/Mt. Lola area is similar (heard that during a recent search/rescue the Forest Service blew up a coupla sleds just trying to get skiers out to the search starting point; road is covered something deep).

I'm quoting to highlight items that showcase the ridiculously awesome year we had. Gonna last awhile (easy TAY/great patch skiing). Just want to post things like this for posterity.

**Skiwald** · 05-06-2017, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by lepistoir

How did you approach? Wondering if twin bridges is burnt

Approached from 50 starting at the horse tail falls parking lot up the ridge through manzanitas. Snow started about 1500 feet above the road. Took a different route down along a stream that drops you off just a bit west and lower than our starting point. This is much more advisable as the snow line extends a bit lower and there's no manzanita to deal with.

**lepistoir** · 05-06-2017, 12:24 PM

Thanks skiwald.

PSA: Rose hiring asst snowmaking/grooming manager:
https://reno.craigslist.org/bus/6119054005.html

**dookeyXXX** · 05-06-2017, 05:22 PM

Been raining pretty much all day in Truckee, however, it turned to snow @ 6000ft (give or take a few 100 feet) about an hour ago up in T/D. Snow falling is wet and heavy, sticking to dirt and wood (my balcony railings, for example), but not to the roads.
My interpretation of the weather forecasts is to expect about 8 inches overnight...

**Ottime** · 05-06-2017, 08:34 PM

8" sounds about perfect for an early May snowfall. Today was the boy's birthday. Way too tired to motivate for a ski, but I did earn credits today that I could cash in. Mid age has settled in.