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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattig View Post
    if you think gummy stones are worthless, you may not be using them right.

    I'd keep most any coarseness of diamond stone in a file guide unless I was aggressively detuning tips/tails. Blue or finer gets freehand sometimes for burrs/nicks where gummy requires too much elbow grease.
    I said "damn near worthless".
    Tuned into the thousands of skis, rest assured, I know how to best use them, which is not much at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    dudes complaining of GRABBINESS
    I too have been experiencing grabbiness on my Kartel 108's, ESPECIALLY in powder. They grab me in my special place, and give me a warm, tingly feeling. A grabbiness that I have not felt on any other skis. I absolutely love them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    I said "damn near worthless".
    Tuned into the thousands of skis, rest assured, I know how to best use them, which is not much at all
    Oh yeah?! Well I've tuned into the tens!!

    I dig the hard blue gummy for detuning, and a soft gray gummy for cleaning up burrs/corrosion. Yeah, you have to rail on 'em, but my forearm/wrist are well-conditioned for that repetitive motion. I'd rather have to rail on it excessively to get the desired result than to run the risk of overshooting the desired result. Same goes for tuning skis.

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    My K108 have a custom tune and are mounted 2cm back from recommended.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    it was GRABBIER because of the BURR(that sharpness you felt is the burr), get rid of it and it will feel smooth, use a hard stone or diamond, gummies are damn near worthless,IMO

    I know how to run diamonds after a file on side bevels, honing and polishing stones in a base bevel after a side bevel and how to use a gummi. And i did all of the above. As i do on all skis i tune (without issue). The skis just don't like to be that sharp. Well tuned from the factory? Sure. SHARP from the factory? Hardly. I understand detuning tips and tales, even relatively far past rockered/tapered sections, but this is only the second ski out of a few dozen that i've tried that doesn't seem to tolerate being that sharp underfoot. But as i said, it seems to still grip pretty well, so meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    FWIW, I spent many pow days this season skiing a 184 BG (16/17), with a couple days on the asymmetrical 189 17/18. .
    Care to elaborate on any 'feel' differences between the two, other than the obvious? Is the asym shape doing anything for you?

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    I didn't know if this would get posted here. But it should be posted here. Unbelievable.

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    Training for Alpental

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    wowza ... I assume those are Wrens of some size??

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    ^^ holy smokes, those are hot.

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    Pants tent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiberAwptik View Post
    I didn't know if this would get posted here. But it should be posted here. Unbelievable.
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    DAMN. So much wood it's almost NSFW!

    I've never messed with the ON3P factory tunes except for on 1st and 2nd gen Billy Goats where I felt that the tips needed to be detuned to about 3-4" back from the front contact point (front of effective edge) in order to reduce hookiness. I've only skied my 16/17 BGs once, but it was on hardpack and they didn't seem hooky at all.

    Our current quiver spans nearly all generations of ON3Ps including: 13/14 Vicik 176, 16/17 BG 179, 14/15 Wren 102 176, and 09/10 Grizzlycorn Vicik 176 (wifes w/lightweight cores, just retired after 7 seasons use).
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    I'm looking forward to adding some 183 C&Ds and 181 102 Wrens to fill in "gaps" in the quiver
    Last edited by critical-motion; 03-15-2017 at 11:22 AM.

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    Trade me your minty Cease and Desists (or Protests), for my brand new Praxis Rx customs?? Pm me

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    wowza ... I assume those are Wrens of some size??
    Wren 108 with custom Veneer [emoji106]
    You should have been here yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Thanks for this. Trying to make you Insta famous [emoji41]
    You should have been here yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Thanks for this. Trying to make you Insta famous [emoji41]
    Ha! I'm pretty sure I don't want to be famous but my stepson (Wrens) and my friends boy who rocks the Charlie Murphs are both super stoked! Thanks for the share

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    Perhaps, C/D's should be next.

    '13/14 Billy Goat 191, tour layup, wood veneer topsheet
    '14/15 Billy Goat 191, GrizzlyCorn
    '13/14 Pillowfight 196
    '12/13 Wrenegade 191
    '10/11 Wrenegade 191
    '11/12 Vicik 186 (unmounted) - and sold.

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    Ha, that unicorn graphic is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
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    Perhaps, C/D's should be next.

    '13/14 Billy Goat 191, tour layup, wood veneer topsheet
    '14/15 Billy Goat 191, GrizzlyCorn
    '13/14 Pillowfight 196
    '12/13 Wrenegade 191
    '10/11 Wrenegade 191
    '11/12 Vicik 186 (unmounted) - and sold.
    Holy shit! You know all your bindings are broken right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
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    Perhaps, C/D's should be next.

    '13/14 Billy Goat 191, tour layup, wood veneer topsheet
    '14/15 Billy Goat 191, GrizzlyCorn
    '13/14 Pillowfight 196
    '12/13 Wrenegade 191
    '10/11 Wrenegade 191
    '11/12 Vicik 186 (unmounted) - and sold.
    You must get to ski a lot of wide open terrain. BGs with Telebindings I have danced around it, but never had the chance to put the two together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galenparke View Post
    You must get to ski a lot of wide open terrain. BGs with Telebindings I have danced around it, but never had the chance to put the two together.
    Galen! Thank you from everyone at the factory for the sweet (pun intended) gift. Stoked!
    You should have been here yesterday!

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    Fellow TGR degenerates and lovers of libations...

    Today through Sunday night enter code WHISKEYWARRIOR for an extra $35 off sale price on any remaining skis (besides Charlie Murphy).

    Few BG's, CD, one or two Wrens, etc left. Posted here first before hitting Insta and FB later today.
    You should have been here yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowTron View Post
    Fellow TGR degenerates and lovers of libations...

    Today through Sunday night enter code WHISKEYWARRIOR for an extra $35 off sale price on any remaining skis (besides Charlie Murphy).

    Few BG's, CD, one or two Wrens, etc left. Posted here first before hitting Insta and FB later today.
    shoulda been $37

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    ^^^ My OCD wouldn't allow that.
    You should have been here yesterday!

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    I know it's sacrilegious for On3p's, but Anyone played around with mount point on Jeffrey's (specifically 114, but I'd imagine OG and Kartel 116 respond similarly).

    On the line the only way to go? How about 1, 2 cm behind the line?

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