Wagon Stoke

[gravitylover]

I hear ya. I would like a newer car, but I have these two big dogs that I take everywhere with me, so a wagon is best or maybe a large hatchback with some power.
I am starting to think I am just going to have to throw in the towel and go with a X5. I want a diesel so I can tow a small camper (5000lbs) and still get decent mileage when not towing. Damn Porsche Cayenne diesel is being recalled so that is out. The new Jag SUV diesel is under powered, so what to do? Why can't I get a 535xiD wagon in the states or any of the other cool diesel wagons sold in Yurp? So annoying.

Or just say whatever to the economy side of it and hook yourself up with the new Durango SRT Somewhere just shy of 500hp, it'll smoke all 4 tires and tow a house. Bring out your inner 'murican

[liv2ski]

Bring out your inner 'murican

That made me chuckle. Sounds like a fun SUV. And I am going to look into that Touareg v10 TDI suggestion. Thanks

[Shredhead]

I want a diesel so I can tow a small camper (5000lbs) and still get decent mileage when not towing. Damn Porsche Cayenne diesel is being recalled so that is out.

The 3.0 settlement is supposed to be finalized in May. $8-16,000 payments to 2nd Gen owners, plus $500 more if the fix effects performance.
I love my wife's 2015 Q5 TDI and I'm taking the cash/fix and I'll just re flash the engine later.

I also love my Jeep GC as a dog hauler and they have a diesel option.

[Bobby Stainless]

[BmillsSkier]

I parked next to a FF recently. It was comically long. Cool, but not at all what I would spend that kind of money on.

[Art Shirk]

I parked next to a FF recently. It was comically long. Cool, but not at all what I would spend that kind of money on.

I dig them. For a couple hundred K, you get yourself into a Ferrari that isn't a cali. That's a start right there. Add in AWD and a serviceable backseat and it's pretty close to a white rhino.

[Bobby Stainless]

150-160 for a service included (7 year) 2012, with about 10-15k miles.

FF took a hit, when they renamed it GTC4 Lusso.

[stfu&gbtw]

Shit....we never get the fun cars in N.A.

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[BmillsSkier]

I dig them. For a couple hundred K, you get yourself into a Ferrari that isn't a cali. That's a start right there. Add in AWD and a serviceable backseat and it's pretty close to a white rhino.

150-160 for a service included (7 year) 2012, with about 10-15k miles.

FF took a hit, when they renamed it GTC4 Lusso.

Well when you bring common sense into it like that I guess it ain't that bad.

The 'it's a Ferrari, not named California' point is a strong one. Matte grey with shields could be a cool look. It's still really long in person though.

[Bobby Stainless]

Classic blk/blk, with yellow calipers and shields. Easy to find too.

[liv2ski]

Wow!!! That is so damn sexy. Just need to win the lotto

[Skidog]

One day I will buy my subbie legacy GT wagon with stick.

[Mazderati]

[Bobby Stainless]

[gravitylover]

Classic blk/blk, with yellow calipers and shields. Easy to find too.

Yup lotto win needed. I've been seeing quite a few of them the last two months, one was running pretty hard through some snowpacked twisties near Stowe and it looked like he was having a ball. I tried to keep up in my BRZ but that didn't last long

[stfu&gbtw]

One day I will buy my subbie legacy GT wagon with stick.

Recently got a ride in one in Golden... STi swap, and some other stuff. Quick car.

[simple]

I test drove a Lexus IS350. I feel dirty. I need Subaru to make an adult fast hatch again. My Outback XT is over 10 years and stage 2 stong. 1st world problems.

[burrito]

I'm starting to think about replacing my Honda Element with an AWD wagon (since nothing close to a small, AWD SUV with a rubber interior exists anymore.) I originally had it down to an Outback, duh, or a Volvo XC70, but a little research into the Volvos now has me drooling over the new V60 Cross Country that should be out later this year (picture is just an approximate rendering, since it hasn't been released yet.)

[4matic]

Volvo AWD is hippie tech. 95/5 front rear bias. I suppose its a comfortable ride and gets the job done but not much fun. Like driving a plow.

[schindlerpiste]

Volvo XC series. Very good mountain vehicle. Good clearance. good in snow. Boring ride.

[simple]

I'm starting to think about replacing my Honda Element with an AWD wagon (since nothing close to a small, AWD SUV with a rubber interior exists anymore.) I originally had it down to an Outback, duh, or a Volvo XC70, but a little research into the Volvos now has me drooling over the new V60 Cross Country that should be out later this year (picture is just an approximate rendering, since it hasn't been released yet.)

Damn son are those 24s?!?!?

They will do great in the snow.

[digitaldeath]

https://t.co/jRdQIYahtH


not 4matic tho

[burrito]

Damn son are those 24s?!?!?

They will do great in the snow.

Haha. I think that rendering is of the regular V60. The cross country version gets an extra couple inches of ground clearance. Not quite the 8.something inches an Outback has, but they're pretty capable.

[BmillsSkier]

I'm starting to think about replacing my Honda Element with an AWD wagon (since nothing close to a small, AWD SUV with a rubber interior exists anymore.) I originally had it down to an Outback, duh, or a Volvo XC70, but a little research into the Volvos now has me drooling over the new V60 Cross Country that should be out later this year (picture is just an approximate rendering, since it hasn't been released yet.)

Slick looking rendering and I'm sure not too far off given the design elements from the 90 series revamped platform.

Look these Volvos aren't going to be BMW corner eaters, but then again that's not what they're intended to be either. The 90 series are luxo-barges, and have earned just about every award out there this past year.

The 60 series gets Polestar treatment and would be a very fun wagon to own, but if you need awd and clearance then the V60 XC line or 90s series XCs are where you're going to end up and 300+ hp ain't too bad either.

But this is TGR and it's shit if it isn't some imaginary unicorn lifted euro wagon that's rear wheel drive all the time except on snow and only comes in a manual with a box and don't forget the diesel option.

[Art Shirk]

Hawt but insanely overpriced:

http://www.centurywestbmw.com/new/BM...dbcfcfd774.htm