MAKE TAHOE DEEP AGAIN ~ 2016/17 OFISHUL SNOW/FOOD/WHINE & STOKE THREAD

[old goat]

Much respect to squaw ski patrol, and I know they must put in an enormous effort to open the mountain after a storm. Its awesome that we get to reap the rewards of their hard work. That being said, they sure could be a lot nicer sometimes. Not that most of them aren't amazing great guys.

The pro patroller at Squaw who dropped his pole loading Granite a few weeks ago was very nice when I gave him his pole back. I have found that asking patrollers advice about terrain/snow conditions is usually a waste of time. I think the philosophy is --if you have to ask you shouldn't go there, which is a good philosophy, so I stopped asking.

[skier666]

Remember that gap between storms over MLK?

[bodywhomper]

Pretty "fun" crust today on eastern aspects

Clouds kept non-crusty areas in good shape.

[noparking]

For us here in Oregon at least where I work we do not get OT until after you've worked 54hrs in a week. It has to do with being on federal land - average 54hrs a week out over a entire year and it ends up being a 40hr work week. We're considered agricultural workers. I know it's a lot different in states with some sort of mining but we do not need a blasting lisence. Shit fucking sucks, a good handful of my coworkers worked with him in the summers and are a total wreck.

[BGnight]

purty lake

[Toadman]

purty lake

Is it me or does it look like that lake has 33.6 billion more gallons of water in it?

[gnarbro365]

Centerville peak was all time today...

[gimpy]

Hah! saw yer tracks up there I think. U guys ski far skiers right down ridge off ridge summit nipple? Yesterday we skied lookers right line down ridge from summit and today we hit lookers left side of center Y line.
I've always thought centerville peak was the stand alone peak between jobs and porcupine. The one directly above the people in the last pic.

[gnarbro365]

Hah! saw yer tracks up there I think. U guys ski far skiers right down ridge off ridge summit nipple? Yesterday we skied lookers right line down ridge from summit and today we hit lookers left side of center Y line.
I've always thought centerville peak was the stand alone peak between jobs and porcupine. The one directly above the people in the last pic.

Guess we used your skin track for a portion of the way...thanks! We saw a few tracks from yesterday up there.

I thought Centerville was the one directly above the vehicle in the picture. Either way we summited Centerville (or so I thought) proper, then skied the right ridge down, and hit the NE facing trees. There is quite a bit of excellent looking steep terrain below that peak, whatever is may be called.

[gimpy]

U might be right. My understanding could b wrong. Whatever it's called its on fiyah

[FormerKnuckleDragger]

...

https://www.gofundme.com/squaw-patrol-funeral-fund

Go Fund Me is up to 99k this morning and likely to hit the revised goal of 100k within the hour. Money can't wash over a tragedy but that's going to make a huge difference in the life of his window and baby left behind. Really nice to see so much support. Sounds like there are some even larger donations being sent in directly as well.

Nearing $180k. Big ups to the North Face and the Mammoth Mountain CEO for chipping in some serious $$$. Let's get this thing over the $200k goal, eh?

[TahoeJ]

Squaw posted a butt-hurt little rant on Facebook this morning...

Hey, it’s your Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows family.

When we first started hanging out on the internet together, things were fun. We had a great relationship. You share your good times with us and we share ours with you.

At some point that got lost. This little bubble of ours stopped being fun. All the sudden our social community became a black hole for negativity. It became a place for trolls and haters to hide behind a keyboard and bash our family. And that’s not cool with us anymore.

We want to remind you why WE’RE here in this funny little corner of the internet. Because the act of sliding down snow is fun. Skiing IS fun. Snowboarding IS fun. We want to share our favorite moments with our adoring fans just as we hope you want to share your good times with us: that season you worked here in ’71, your kickass turns down Chute 75, your kids first turns on Bailey’s Beach. Yeah, those times. We love you passionate skiers and riders. And above everything, we at Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows will continue creating moments and memories with you and your family. To this we are 100% dedicated.

So here’s where we stand. This social network we built is our home. And it was built for a place to share stoke. When you choose to visit our home, you don’t have to agree with everything you see and you can choose how you interact with it, but if you rant, spew hatred or bully our family and friends in our home we will break up with you. This behavior will no longer be tolerated.

Another friendly reminder (in case you forgot) is we are people who work here. Not robots. Not suits. Not invisible. We are community members that are passionate about sliding down snow. We are just like you! We come to work every single day giving 110%. Why? Because we have passion. Passion for our home, passion for skiing and snowboarding. Remember that all of those team members out on the mountain are human. Just like you. And it is those individuals, with collective knowledge of hundreds of years of combined experience, that open these magnificent mountains.

While the logistics of operations are tremendously complex, one thing is simple. If terrain can safely open, as deemed by Patrol, Lift Mechanics, Groomers and other mountain operation folks, it opens. Team members out on the mountain always are in the best position to use their professional discretion to assess lifts & terrain. Decisions about when to open, and what to open, do not originate in an office or a board room. They originate with the patrol leaders for terrain, and with the lift mechanics for lifts, based on the most up to date information, on the mountain. You would not want it any other way. Safety and readiness guide the actions of patrol and lift maintenance, not management directives about when to open terrain. There is simply no other narrative. There’s no such thing as money hold. There’s no such thing as holding terrain. If the hard-working and professional men and women out on the mountain call in and say terrain can open, we open. If they say it cannot open due to conditions or weather, or other factors, we don’t open. When we say that terrain is “scheduled” it is not a guarantee that the terrain will open; it is a promise that we have brought the staff and material that is necessary to open and operate that terrain, if it becomes safe and possible. Lifts are closed or taken off the schedule when we have assessed that operations won’t be safe or possible.

After this massive 23 foot storm, can we all take a step back from our keyboards and phones and remember why we’re all here? Why are YOU here? We only come back to one thing: the simple fact that skiing and snowboarding here is FUN. We hope you agree. We look forward to sharing the stoke with you here, and at Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows.

Holy shit. No such thing as a money hold? Are they fucking kidding? I can't even count the number of times I've hiked up to tower 16 with Broken Arrow not spinning. In fact, I literally haven't ridden that lift in 5 years. Not to mention all of the times I've had to hike from Solitude over to Shirley. And don't get me started on Olympic Lady. Or all of the times there's huge lines at Funi and KT but Squaw One is just sitting there un-used. They're running a business and trying to make money, fine, but cut the shit.

The idea that management has no say on terrain opening / lifts spinning is Trump-level on the lie scale.

[dhklauer]

Not quite Skier666, but here's some stoke from Andesite, Cold Stream and Sugar Bowl. https://vimeo.com/200614378

[Ghetto.Creek]

Squaw posted a butt-hurt little rant on Facebook this morning...



Holy shit. No such thing as a money hold? Are they fucking kidding? I can't even count the number of times I've hiked up to tower 16 with Broken Arrow not spinning. In fact, I literally haven't ridden that lift in 5 years. Not to mention all of the times I've had to hike from Solitude over to Shirley. And don't get me started on Olympic Lady. Or all of the times there's huge lines at Funi and KT but Squaw One is just sitting there un-used. They're running a business and trying to make money, fine, but cut the shit.

The idea that management has no say on terrain opening / lifts spinning is Trump-level on the lie scale.

Haha I saw that as well. Good stuff. They have a good point when they tell people to be patient with them with everything going on lately, and thats understandable, but everything else was basically saying, "We here at KSL are a bunch of pussies and would appreciate it if you weren't mean to us"

Good fucking stuff.

Also they say how we hide behind keyboards? Haha theres so many people that would love to and have gotten face to face with the management at Squaw to blow them off.

[TahoeJ]

I totally understand about them being sensitive about operations this week; Granite Chief and Headwall and other non-openings are very understandable if it's true they aren't allowed to use hand charges until the investigation is closed. Or if they are short staffed on patrol due to some folks needing to take some time away from the mountain. But to use that to try to gloss over their operational problems going on half a decade now is a joke.

[PutYourDukesUp]

I don't ski squaw often but I found that post laughable. Using the timing is pretty weak on their part. If they had just come out and said "we are a business and we make operational and staffing decisions to make a profit" that would have been fine. But to try and harp on people's emotions to try and push their narrative is pretty pathetic. Maybe if people look past the BS and vote with their wallet things might change.

[smallies]

Hasn't ridden broken arrow in 5 years.

[StormDay]

Not quite Skier666, but here's some stoke from Andesite, Cold Stream and Sugar Bowl. https://vimeo.com/200614378

very nice.

[TahoeJ]

^^ That looked fun. Nice use of the terrain.

[TAHOEDOWN]

Not quite Skier666, but here's some stoke from Andesite, Cold Stream and Sugar Bowl. https://vimeo.com/200614378

Sick! (especially the parts with me in it)

[mcski]

I wonder what prompted that rant and how high up the food chain signed off on it. I'm sure emotions are a bit raw there this week, but come the fuck on w the guilt trip time and flat out bs on money holds not existing. No shortage of examples there. I felt bad for patrol today as people blatantly poached headwall. People were actually getting as high as the slot ffs. If they ranted about that this week, I'd say more power to them, but this one is just pure bullshit. It makes me sick the effect mgmt is having of both mountains. Pls cash out and sell to vail already [emoji849]

[drjoyous]

I don't usually post, but i have to say that Squaw management rant is incredibly condescending. And they basically are blaming the skiers/boarders for what is clearly a lack of patrollers and other workers--they KNOW this was a big storm, but didn't hire enough employees so they could make profits. As you all say, come out and be honest with the people, instead of being condescending (as if we're all stupid) and blaming US for why THEY have a problem (lack of staff to deal with a big storm year--this is not the first storm this season...)

[skier666]

Not quite Skier666, but here's some stoke from Andesite, Cold Stream and Sugar Bowl.

You are too sweet, BUT NOT AS SWEET AS THOSE SUNNY POW TURNS IN THE VID!

[skier666]

On a side note...my buddy Bevan had a fun day at Alpine the other day. Holy hell it looked good.

[neufox47]

Squaw posted a butt-hurt little rant on Facebook this morning...



Holy shit. No such thing as a money hold? Are they fucking kidding? I can't even count the number of times I've hiked up to tower 16 with Broken Arrow not spinning. In fact, I literally haven't ridden that lift in 5 years. Not to mention all of the times I've had to hike from Solitude over to Shirley. And don't get me started on Olympic Lady. Or all of the times there's huge lines at Funi and KT but Squaw One is just sitting there un-used. They're running a business and trying to make money, fine, but cut the shit.

The idea that management has no say on terrain opening / lifts spinning is Trump-level on the lie scale.

Damn. Someone should have taken PR101. That message could have been sent in a way that would have galvanized support. Instead it just made it us vs our customers.

When I was there after the first part of the storm, on Saturday the 14th (snow stopped on the 12th), patrol hadn't started on Silverado. That isnt on patrol, that is on management for not having enough patrol.