Is the stock market going to tank?

**Brock Landers** · 09-26-2016, 04:26 PM

Those vix etf's suck

**digitaldeath** · 09-26-2016, 04:43 PM

at least in craps you can see the dice, for a quick second before the rakeman moves in ever so fast

**Cono Este** · 09-26-2016, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Presidential debate predictions?

"if ______ happens in the debate, then the market will do ________."

We're fucked either way.

**Cono Este** · 09-26-2016, 05:29 PM

First lesson Gus taught me

Wear gloves if you must try to catch a safe.

**4matic** · 09-27-2016, 10:40 AM

A close above the gap on Monday at 2164 $spx would be bullish.

**digitaldeath** · 09-29-2016, 01:23 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...maller-twitter

zink zink

Deutsche Bank Is Now Smaller Than Twitter

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**Cono Este** · 09-29-2016, 02:23 PM

Third time weve sold off to this level. Will she hold?

I say no.

**Cono Este** · 09-29-2016, 03:39 PM

Where did Deutsch Bank lose its cash? What am I missing?

**digitaldeath** · 09-29-2016, 03:47 PM

they have more than 500b in debt

**Bromontana** · 09-29-2016, 03:57 PM

Buy the dip

**neufox47** · 09-29-2016, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Where did Deutsch Bank lose its cash? What am I missing?

Aren't they the only bank that will give Trump loans anymore? 😀

**digitaldeath** · 09-29-2016, 04:02 PM

ya right, that bank is dunzo

**shroom** · 09-29-2016, 05:47 PM

I know DB was facing some huge fines a few years back. my CIO at the time was sent there to clean house as she did at $BA and every other employer she has graced. at the time, I read into that as DB being fucked in many ways.

**Cono Este** · 09-29-2016, 05:56 PM

Awesome! Those fuckers used to cross every order or pick us clean on the floor.

Karma is a bitch.

**philth** · 09-29-2016, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Awesome! Those fuckers used to cross every order or pick us clean on the floor.

Karma is a bitch.

Just curious....explain that to me.....

**Cono Este** · 09-29-2016, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by philth

Just curious....explain that to me.....

If it was a good trade they would call around their other customers and shop it to them so they could bill both sides of the trade and shut us on the floor out. If it was a great trade their prop desk would do the other side and fuck their customers by not letting us even improve the price. If it was a bad trade they would shove it down our throats with a gun to our heads.

Eventually they just stopped asking and traded it all OTC where they can sodomize their clients in relative obscurity and with no third party pricing to get in the way. Then they would machine gun our markets and hedge their trade for massive profits.

**philth** · 09-30-2016, 05:40 PM

Options MM? Where?

**digitaldeath** · 09-30-2016, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Then they would machine gun our markets and hedge their trade for massive profits.

Rich stuff

**iceman** · 09-30-2016, 09:41 PM

Capitalism at its most savage.

**Cono Este** · 10-01-2016, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by philth

Options MM? Where?

CBOE, PCX plus some clerking on the PHLX.

**philth** · 10-01-2016, 08:30 AM

AMEX index options, Big board options then Big board equities. Phew.... I thought I may have known you in real world..

**shroom** · 10-03-2016, 08:59 PM

ELI5?

**digitaldeath** · 10-03-2016, 09:15 PM

Twtr at 24$

30% gainz son

Flooding the market with wizardry. Bout to be all mine. I'll buy tgr, mod up and start punishing non believers

**Brock Landers** · 10-03-2016, 10:08 PM

Not prepared to make a rec...because no one asked him?

Stocks are at an all time high...so let's buy more! Because...why exactly?

Not to mention the whole class warfare thing- who would this benefit? People who own stocks. Who gives 0 fucks? People who don't own stock, who could probably benefit from just getting cash.

Why buy 200 billion in stock when you could just give 50 million people 4 grand. Target working parents who need it, who will buy necessities. Even better build roads bridges whatever. Pay teachers to educate the next generation.

Because buying stock doesn't benefit the economy - if it did we would already be out of any "trouble"

**Brock Landers** · 10-04-2016, 06:53 AM

One time repatriation of corporate overseas profits at 15% tax rate, take that money and reinvest it. Although why bother? Just print whatever you need and go spend it. This 'buy stock' idea is the very definition of a bubble. At least in current QE, the bonds could mature and roll off. Not the same for stock, which sticks around forever unless they start selling. Which they would never do.

Im actually just not in favor of pushing banks to do anything. If the banks saw businesses they wanted to lend to...they would. Propping up shit businesses is inflating the Chinese economy and the reason theres so much volatility over there (one reason anyway). Why don't we push banks to lend to homebuyers too? Could help the housing market, help the Lowe's and Home Depot's, and all the ancillary businesses? Make sure this time home prices always go up.

For one, not to get too political, but I think lowering the tax rate for businesses in an effort to keep them here in the US rather than outsourcing is huge. Don't force businesses to stay local, make them want to do it. Make it silly for them to leave. All the money we lose on the tax rate would more than be made up for in the real economy, less unemployment, more constituents paying tax, all that. /tangent