Why does everyone hate Summit County / Eagle County and Denver?

[Foggy_Goggles]

Where is anywhere else?

Anywhere is everywhere, right?

[topwater]

...the age old question what is a local? How do you become one whats the requirements?

Simple, a personalized license plate with the original two letter designation from whatever ski town you moved to.

[Dhelihiker]

to 99% every Coloradoan I've met is a douche, I couldn't possibly go to the state based on that.

[TahoeJ]

Plenty of cool people in CO, just a high douche percentage to go with it.

Anyway, I say embrace the hate- I keep hearing how much California sucks and I'm thinking most people are just doing it wrong.

[Bronic]

If.. ... east vail, etc. all got 500" a year

If only....

[DropCliffsNotBombs]

There are good and bad people in every state.
Except New Jersey. Fuck New Jersey.

[fastfred]

Simple, a personalized license plate with the original two letter designation from whatever ski town you moved to.

there is the sign of a tool bag, buying a 2015 car and putting your 20 year old 2 or 3 letter plates on the car so everyone can know how local you are

on the other hand if your still driving around the same pos car that is well over 20 years old with old plates on it, well then you can get some local points

[Lindahl]

Nothing to see here... move along

[Canada1]

I'll make an effort at a serious answer.

Most have made a series of compromises to allow an existence where they are. "I could have taken the job at that NY firm, but want to live my life and so I ended up in XXX". They then justify their decision by scoffing at others who see things differently.

The reality is that there are good people in every western ski town. There are also some assholes. The percentage of assholes goes way up when you multiply it by a population the size of the front range, and at some point, the people in the ski towns become jaded to the positives by the negative experiences with the assholes.

When I first moved to boulder, I thought it was a very fun town, with great people. Over time, the traffic, population, transiency of people and social tiers and social climbers jaded my perception.

Finally, the reality is that there are a lot of nice places, but Park City Utah is the only right choice of where to raise a family. If you ski bum somewhere else for a while, you'll see that all other places are filled with the need to social climb we associate with California, or the need to dress a certain way we associate with Texas or a lack of snow we associate with Colorado or wet snow we associate with Costal locales. So just skip all the BS and move where I live, because every other choice is based in ignorance. And once you get here, don't tell anyone else.

[summit]

Summit County etc is GREAT FOR NOTHING. Unless you have realistic expectation, you will forever be unhappy.

BETTER IS EASY:
Better terrain? Anywhere that isn't East.
More powder and less wind? Almost anywhere North or West...
More stable snowpack? Anywhere West of CO.
Smaller crowds on the road and the piste? Pick a less developed more remote area
Less crowded BC? Anywhere but the Wasatch or Teton Pass
Better rivers that are not all mank and ice cream headaches? North Carolina etc
Better bike park? Whistler

There are tradeoffs. Maybe it is job opportunities, cost of living, major airport, no nearby zones when the local conditions are subpar... for many these are worth it!

Summit County etc is DECENT FOR EVERYTHING. When it isn't, areas that are have an easy drive!

If you don't like 1st-year-locals, entitled-one-weekend-a-month-locals, so-local-front-rangers, NebratexacalifornewyorJONGs, and traffic shenanigans, then find a job and living situation that lets you mostly avoid them. If you can't do that, then move. If you can't do any of that, then the issue is your priorities.

[Hacksaw]

http://kdvr.com/2016/05/26/petition-...g-to-colorado/

[brutah]

Finally, the reality is that there are a lot of nice places, but Park City Utah is the only right choice of where to raise a family. If you ski bum somewhere else for a while, you'll see that all other places are filled with the need to social climb we associate with California, or the need to dress a certain way we associate with Texas or a lack of snow we associate with Colorado or wet snow we associate with Costal locales. So just skip all the BS and move where I live, because every other choice is based in ignorance. And once you get here, don't tell anyone else.

park city is a great town if you're into mountain biking.

they still skiing in colorado and PNW. and the skiing has been great. Park City on the other hand, skiing has been over for over a month. park city is a mountain bike town, the skiing is decent, but summit county colorado blows it out of the water in skiing terrain options. you might have to wait till may to ski steeps but damn, summit county, colorado has a lifetime of skiing, summit county, utah has a lot of mountain bike trails and some sweet ski hills, but those aint mountains bruh

[mall walker]

^ nah bro just get rad in the Monitors all winter

[Coño Frío]

Park City on the other hand, skiing has been over for over a month.....the skiing is decent, but summit county colorado blows it out of the water in skiing terrain options

No offense Bruta, but you are either ig'narant or smoking a bit too much of that Tangerine Diesel!

You do realize that Anywhere in Park City is closer to Alta/Snowbird than Denver is to Summit County? The bird has one of the longest seasons of the year and the terrain in LCC literally blows away Summit County. This is not even a debate among sane people. Park City is also 45 mins from snow basin and 1:15 from Powder Mountain. If the Wasatch BC is too crowded there is always the Uintas. Jackson Hole, Grand Targhee, Big Sky, and Sun Valley are an easy mornings drive. Hell I can probably be in Telluride is less time than most Front Range bros. Annnnnnd, the PP mentioned that is was tops for raising a family, again hands down no debate, best schools in the State and some of the best public schools in the nation. There's also the Winter school if yer grom shows real promise.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Hell I can probably be in Telluride

Uhhhhh... no.

[Hott Butt Mud]

I would guess the majority of the people who like to bitch and compare locations in the West are from the East or Midwest.

Can't you just be happy with, "It's better than Ohio"?

[Coño Frío]

Uhhhhh... no.

Uhhh, yeah

PC vs Boulder is basically a pick 'em (and my ole lady flies)...and add another hour (at least) for the CSU bros

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Okay. Misread it as summit county CO --> telluride.

Good news for the 'ride, it's middle of nowhere so it keeps everyone from Colorado out ;-)

[Fritz]

Wait, what are we talking about again? 6 hour commutes to ski?

[Coño Frío]

Wait, what are we talking about again? 6 hour commutes to ski?

Obviously you've never been to T'ride...
#worththedrive

[brutah]

No offense Bruta, but you are either ig'narant or smoking a bit too much of that Tangerine Diesel!

You do realize that Anywhere in Park City is closer to Alta/Snowbird than Denver is to Summit County? The bird has one of the longest seasons of the year and the terrain in LCC literally blows away Summit County. This is not even a debate among sane people. Park City is also 45 mins from snow basin and 1:15 from Powder Mountain. If the Wasatch BC is too crowded there is always the Uintas. Jackson Hole, Grand Targhee, Big Sky, and Sun Valley are an easy mornings drive. Hell I can probably be in Telluride is less time than most Front Range bros. Annnnnnd, the PP mentioned that is was tops for raising a family, again hands down no debate, best schools in the State and some of the best public schools in the nation. There's also the Winter school if yer grom shows real promise.

Ummm there's like 4 mountain ranges the size of the wasatch in summit county colorado alone.....

It may be debatable whether the gore range or the wasatch is more rowdy, but summit also has the ten mile range, the front range, the mosquito range. Just quantity of mountains alone puts summit county colorado over summit county utah

Dont get me wrong I like utah, but summit county colorado is pretty rad too. And there's way more mountains in colorado and they're taller which means they likely hold snow longer. And we all know how elusive wasatch corn is. Oh and the bird closes this weekend, abasin wont be closed for awhile (and now that john Cummings owns the bird my guess is that summer tram skiing will be drastically shortened in the future, tram repairs or not)

[Bromontana]

Colorado is a trigger word for me.

Yuuudge mountains

Legal greens

Western slope towns with outdoor activities galore

Not many spots for cube monkeys to roost

[Danno]

When one says the terrain in LCC blows away the terrain in SuCo, I'm assuming we're talking lift-served terrain, and terrain that is generally skiable mid-winter? I would definitely buy that. The snowpack in Colorado sucks. But if you're simply talking terrain overall, then that's absurd. Have you seen the Gore Range (see Lindahl's recent TR for an example)? For the stout folks who get after it, I don't buy the statement.

[hatchgreenchile]

For lift served, high quantity & quality snowfall, and % of expert terrain, best place I've been are the Cottonwoods. YMMV.
There are some ridiculous mountain ranges here that get walloped with snowfall, but they are often buried deep in wilderness or snowcat zones.

[summit]

Gore is mostly long approaches for good but short skiable vert with few exceptions (and those get hammered these days). An average Gore line is 6-7 miles in and 4-5000 vert up for maybe 1500 vert of skiing. Keeps the crowds on the periphery and it is pretty.