Stem Cell Tissue Injections....anyone here actually try it?

[DasBlunt]

I know we get lots of Internet traffic here, so i don't want to hear your opinions about Stem cells....only if you have tried the procedure and your experiences with it.

Ankle is acting up again and considering this procedure to avoid surgery.

thanks!!

[rod9301]

I had stem cell injections in my left knee and right big toe. In Colorado. Both places with good success.

[ghettostyle]

I had stem cell injections in my left knee and right big toe. In Colorado. Both places with good success.

We're your procedures with Regenexx?

I'm considering them for a knee this may.

[WMD]

I had stem cell injections in my left knee in late Oct 2014. It took a while but I'm having great results. My knee still swells sometimes and isn't perfect, but previous to the injections I was basically skiing on one leg and just locking that knee and holding on. Many days I went home in pain after just one run.

I didn't ski much last year as the doc (Joseph Albano in SLC) wanted me to not ski for 2 months, and then only mellow soft snow groomers until March. My knee hurt all last season anyway and I was sure there was not much improvement. It was a bit depressing.

Fast forward to this year and I can ski with two legs again! Huge difference. I have very little pain while skiing now and can actually extend and contract and push my ski into the snow to bend it! It's not a new knee but it works again. I probably should try a second treatment.

I would try Regenexx if I hadn't found someone else I feel good about.

[rod9301]

Yes, mine was regenexx, Dr Schultz

[splat]

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ready-Answered

[DasBlunt]

thanks Splat.

Message boards are notorious for having new threads started gaining much better results.

[sb]

I finally found someone to do stem/prp on my knee and they are not too far away. Happy happy, joy joy!

[Evil E]

Make sure you know what cell count they expect to inject back in and if it's a guided injection. The higher the cell count # the better the results but if it's not a guided injection find someone else

[DasBlunt]

Make sure you know what cell count they expect to inject back in and if it's a guided injection. The higher the cell count # the better the results but if it's not a guided injection find someone else

Yep. Biggest issue is price and skill.

the charges for using my own bone marrow is fucking insane.

PRP alone is promising. 50/50 clinical success percentages is pretty good and old methods of just squirting it into the joint area are fading with guided like you mention.

[Mazderati]

It might work, it might not. That's the takeaway.

[splat]

For knees, I'm not so certain a fluoroscope image for guidance is as necessary as it would be for a spinal injection. I guess I'll bump my stem cell thread now.

Maz- it's more likely to work than not, based on my experience and others who have done stem cells that I have talked to.

[rod9301]

I do believe that image guiding is essential, problem is there are a lot of hacks attracted by easy money.

[LightRanger]

Looking forward to what the field is going to be like in 15-20+ years when I might need it.

[DasBlunt]

It might work, it might not. That's the takeaway.

That is not accurate. 78% in one study noticed improvement in joints. That is also including the very elder patients who might not be the best comparison for our needs. We are not talking about injecting into the brain to fix your dementia Mazderati.....


PRP is about 50% and that is based on a recent (within 6 months) study. Also including patients that might not be good comparisons for our demographic here...

[Mazderati]

it's more likely to work than not...

78% in one study noticed improvement in joints.

PRP is about 50% and that is based on a recent (within 6 months) study. .

So you're saying it might work or it might not.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I do believe that image guiding is essential, problem is there are a lot of hacks attracted by easy money.

Why would image guidance be essential in the knee joint?

[rod9301]

Because you want the stem cells placed where the cartilage is worn.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I could see image guidance being useful for isolated inter-substance meniscal tears but I don't see how "placing" stem cell on areas of chondromalacia or exposed sub chondral bone would work. The knee joint is filled with fluid and "placing" the stem cells on worn areas would seem hopeful. Having the stem cells circulating in the joint with the synovial fluid would seem to be better for osteo.

[rod9301]

Ok

[DasBlunt]

done.

Wow, I am a pussy and bone marrow transplant patients are heroes. The bone marrow extraction pain was gnar level for me, i felt a twinge of horror I imagined that pain would not stop, but it immediately stopped and was resolved with only uncomfortable awkwardness. Knowing i could target cells into my body and fix it, the pain was worth it. The memory is unique, not having had any internal surgery aside from stitches.

Ankle feels like needles were repeatedly stuck into it and filled with bone marrow spun into italian flavored soda, filled like a jelly doughnut, feels destroyed and my doctor is a hero/dick. But that resentment fades like the payment after a MMA fight......

this treatment skips a step in the healing blood circulation cycle, and creates localized healing.

Knee's are injected into each cavity area, ankles are injected into a wider area, smaller ligament areas. Knees are having lots of success too.

[rod9301]

Das, where did you have this done?

[DasBlunt]

Das, where did you have this done?

Here in Denver.

Day 3, my ankle feels like I was 22 and after had a bad sprain and i could, if i had to, ride my bike. Still lots of internal pain from the needle punctures and swelling from being filled with the stem cell PRP mixture, but overall seems solid. Also, a level of heat from my ankle, like a strength, has returned. Circulation seemed impaired after the last few sprains. Now the added material seems to build up the area with energy. Strange feeling but also feels ultimately normal.

[ghettostyle]

Here in Denver.

Day 3, my ankle feels like I was 22 and after had a bad sprain and i could, if i had to, ride my bike. Still lots of internal pain from the needle punctures and swelling from being filled with the stem cell PRP mixture, but overall seems solid. Also, a level of heat from my ankle, like a strength, has returned. Circulation seemed impaired after the last few sprains. Now the added material seems to build up the area with energy. Strange feeling but also feels ultimately normal.

Was it with Regenexx? I'm considering a knee procedure with them in April, and I'm hopeful it is as seems.

[DasBlunt]

Was it with Regenexx? I'm considering a knee procedure with them in April, and I'm hopeful it is as seems.

nope. they were way too expensive and i did not like their sales call people. uneducated and slow. 500 for a initial consult was the nail in their coffin. they also have tons of add on costs. they lost their bid fast.

i went to
Denver Regenerative Medicine http://denverregenerativemedicine.com/index.html

149 S HOLLY ST #201
DENVER, CO 80222
720-583-1648

They offer a Maggot discount if you schedule before 4/1 20% off, yes, really.

Dr. Cantor is your guy.



(720) 583-1648