Careful What You Ask for Seattle (No Good Deed Goes Unpunished)

KQ · 02-17-2016, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mofro261

other than dropping a deuce in the urinal is just plain wrong?

BTW - if anyone is interested in seeing a great documentary on the subject of feeling/being transgender since birth and what it takes to make the change check this out:

Frontline: Growing Up Trans

**PNWbrit** · 02-17-2016, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by KQ

Next step: Eliminate clothing!

Take down yoga pants!....?

KQ · 02-17-2016, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Take down yoga pants!....?

**ACH** · 02-17-2016, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by KQ

Leave it to Iowa...

**Chugachjed** · 02-17-2016, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by The AD

I've got mixed feelings about this. I feel like the greater good is for the transgender person to use the locker room designated for their biological gender. This may make them uncomfortable, but their presence in the locker room of the other sex is going to make lots of other people uncomfortable. Why does the transgender person's comfort trump the comfort of everyone else?

It's not about comfort it's about their safety. Trans people are the group most likely to be violently attacked.

**PNWbrit** · 02-17-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

It's not about comfort it's about their safety. Trans people are the group most likely to be violently attacked.

End of thread.

**Timberridge** · 02-17-2016, 07:43 PM

Wait till beastiality becomes a societal norm. Sorry sir, no goats allowed, this a 'sheep only' bathroom.

**PNWbrit** · 02-17-2016, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Wait till beastiality becomes a societal norm.

Or just move to Enumclaw?

**irul&ublo** · 02-17-2016, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Wait till beastiality becomes a societal norm. Sorry sir, no goats allowed, this a 'sheep only' bathroom.

PM Rontele

**Kinnikinnick** · 02-17-2016, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

It's not about comfort it's about their safety. Trans people are the group most likely to be violently attacked.

Are attacks on trans gendered occurring frequently in bathrooms?

I'm pretty much always for equal rights, but the Transgendered stuff is a bit murkier.

A gay guy or lesbian woman wants to do what other people do - work, recreate, marry, etc. - they have a right.

A man doesn't feel like a man and wants to surgically and/or superficially and/or chemically alter their appearance and then everyone else has to accommodate them? They should be free change their "sex" without discrimination or violence but allowing them into the girls bathroom, I'm just not sure. And certainly not this jackass who doesn't even make attempts to look like a woman.

**Sirshredalot** · 02-17-2016, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by KQ

BTW - if anyone is interested in seeing a great documentary on the subject of feeling/being transgender since birth and what it takes to make the change check this out:

Frontline: Growing Up Trans

Just chiming in to say Frontline is great tv journalism. One of the producers is a friend of mine. Great person.

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 08:08 PM

The thing is, the "man" who feels like a "woman" or the opposite will be wearing the gender clothing that fits their chosen identity.

They will go in (women's bathrooms mostly just have stalls), and they will do their business and leave. Someone might see their face, and feel like they might be a man or woman, but mostly they will be in and out.

No harm.

The guy in this article was a man being an ass.

Maybe add to the law that a person must live openly as the sex they identify with under some sort of severe pentalty.

This is the first time I have heard of this happeneing, I doubt it is going to be a common occurance.

Also. Lesbians still identify as women.

Gay men also still identify as men, so they still might be checking out your peepee at the urinal, legally.

doughboyshredder · 02-17-2016, 08:19 PM

I know a few lesbians who identify as women yet look like and dress like men.

What clothing fits what gender?

Personally I'm down with Jayden. I have always wanted to wear a dress and let my balls swing freely.

**christoph benells** · 02-17-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by DJSapp

first 'guy' that follows my 6 year old daughter into the locker room is gonna get his skull pounded by papa.

you let your 6 year old daughter go into a public locker room by herself?

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I know a few lesbians who identify as women yet look like and dress like men.

What clothing fits what gender?

Personally I'm down with Jayden. I have always wanted to wear a dress and let my balls swing freely.

I have never heard of anyone having an issue with manly lesbians using woman's restrooms.

This is largely a non issue for adults because people use the bathroom that makes the most sense the vast majority of the time.

Its a little weirder for children, but again, girls bathrooms have stalls and if you don't have a penis, you cannot pee in a urinal, at least not without making a mess, and so that leaves the stalls....

Surely we don't need a gender checker at the door to look at your lady bits or man parts and decide if the pass muster before you can enter.

**BCMtnHound** · 02-17-2016, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

What clothing fits what gender?

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**MagnificentUnicorn** · 02-17-2016, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by mtngirl79

The thing is, the "man" who feels like a "woman" or the opposite will be wearing the gender clothing that fits their chosen identity.

They will go in (women's bathrooms mostly just have stalls), and they will do their business and leave. Someone might see their face, and feel like they might be a man or woman, but mostly they will be in and out.

No harm.

The guy in this article was a man being an ass.

Maybe add to the law that a person must live openly as the sex they identify with under some sort of severe pentalty.

This is the first time I have heard of this happeneing, I doubt it is going to be a common occurance.

Also. Lesbians still identify as women.

Gay men also still identify as men, so they still might be checking out your peepee at the urinal, legally.

Just because a "man" identifies as a "woman" doesn't mean that "she" will wear women's clothing. As you pointed out lesbians identify as women but some dress like men. You have really over simplified this. I've seen "butch" lesbians wearing board shorts, maybe he identified as "butch".

**old goat** · 02-17-2016, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

It's not about comfort it's about their safety. Trans people are the group most likely to be violently attacked.

Boys Don't Cry. Great movie.

Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

I've seen chicks do it in the men's room at concerts.

Concerts I go to have a longer line in the men's room than in the ladies. (We're mostly old fucks.)

My kid worked as a lifeguard at the city pool one summer. Didn't rescue anyone but they did apprehend a perv who tried to pick up a 13 year old boy in the changing room.

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by AaronWright

Just because a "man" identifies as a "woman" doesn't mean that "she" will wear women's clothing. As you pointed out lesbians identify as women but some dress like men. You have really over simplified this. I've seen "butch" lesbians wearing board shorts, maybe he identified as "butch".

Again, how often do you hear about this ACTUALLY being an issue? People carry on about it maybe being an issue, but generally, it is not. Generally, you can tell a bull dyke is a bull dyke, no matter what she is wearing or how her hair is cut.

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 02-17-2016, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by mtngirl79

Again, how often do you hear about this ACTUALLY being an issue? People carry on about it maybe being an issue, but generally, it is not. Generally, you can tell a bull dyke is a bull dyke, no matter what she is wearing or how her hair is cut.

You're missing the point, you can usually tell if a male cross dresser is a male. You said that someone will dress accordingly with their gender identity and that's not true.

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 09:26 PM

When these men who identify as women, but do not dress like women, do their hair like women, wear make up or do anything to signify that they are female start popping up all over the place I will worry about them.

Lesbian women dressed as men tend to have breasts and vaginas.

Some dude gawking at women in the bathroom needs dealt with. Someone who looks weird doing their business and leaving is probably a non issue.

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by AaronWright

You're missing the point, you can usually tell if a male cross dresser is a male. You said that someone will dress accordingly with their gender identity and that's not true.

Sometimes you can guess a cross dresser is probably male. He can use whatever bathroom he wants. He goes into the womans stall, and does whatever, I might say that was a manly lady to myself if I notice.

He goes to the urinal in the mens room, pulls out his penis and takes a piss? Well what the hell, he's got a penis... he can use the urinal.

So the fuck what. What difference does it make? Why is it a huge deal?

**Mazderati** · 02-17-2016, 09:34 PM

It's a big enough deal to LGBTA that this is even an issue in the first place.

**mtngirl79** · 02-17-2016, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mazderati

It's a big enough deal to LGBTA that this is even an issue in the first place.

because in some places a person with a penis using the womans restroom would be committing a crime. If that person with a penis is dressed as a woman, maybe even taking hormones, and maybe even has breasts, is wearing make up, and womens clothes, it would be weirder for that person to use the mens room.