Who is cutting wood?

[bodywhomper]

i have some dry ponderosa pine rounds that split like those in the video (i split in an old tire). if feels good, especially after the time spent hand-splitting knotty, stringy oak. i would argue that dry manzanita is even more satisfying; the btu/burn quality to ease of splitting ratio is really good.

[stfu&gbtw]

i have some dry ponderosa pine rounds that split like those in the video (i split in an old tire). if feels good, especially after the time spent hand-splitting knotty, stringy oak. i would argue that dry manzanita is even more satisfying; the btu/burn quality to ease of splitting ratio is really good.

Probably not ponderosa... Ponderosa is incredibly stringy and knotty. You sure you're not thinking of lodgepole?

[From_the_NEK]

I've had some dry knotless ash that I could almost split be giving it a hard stare .

[bodywhomper]

Huh.? I'm too low for lodgepole. I'm gonna double check with the friend that gave me the rounds.... could be sugar pine....

[stfu&gbtw]

Huh.? I'm too low for lodgepole. I'm gonna double check with the friend that gave me the rounds.... could be sugar pine....

I did a little digging around.. looks like the ease of splitting Ponderosa has a lot to do with the environment where it's grown. Seems totally possible that the Ponderosa where I am sucks and where you are it doesn't.

[Meadow Skipper]

When I lived in Alaska, I liked to wait to split until the temp was -25 or below. Stuff just flew apart. Mostly spruce and birch.

[Grange]

Some of the easiest wood for me to split is dry ash trees. When red and burr oak and red and sugar maple are dry they are fairly easy to split. The worst wood to split for me is elm, which is stringy and often twisted or wet cottonwood, which sucks in the splitting maul and still refuses to crack. Dry birch can be a pain as well because it likes to break apart too much rather than split cleanly.

[splitinbend]

A member once said they wouldn't burn with my stove due to it not being healthy. Well I agree, it's messing with my breathing. However I'm a renter and my landlords are cheap hippies that don't like forking over for the costly problems of maintaining an old log cabin. We get by but I'm concerned about the long term effects of breathing smoke particulates. I looked around trying to figure out the legality and if there was some sort of oversight organization but couldn't find anything for Oregon? And if it's unhealthy does anybody happen to know what my rights are as a renter?

[stfu&gbtw]

A member once said they wouldn't burn with my stove due to it not being healthy. Well I agree, it's messing with my breathing. However I'm a renter and my landlords are cheap hippies that don't like forking over for the costly problems of maintaining an old log cabin. We get by but I'm concerned about the long term effects of breathing smoke particulates. I looked around trying to figure out the legality and if there was some sort of oversight organization but couldn't find anything for Oregon? And if it's unhealthy does anybody happen to know what my rights are as a renter?

You have the right to move. You have the right to buy and maintain your own damn house and not pretend like your wellbeing ought to be more important to someone else than it is to you.

[splitinbend]

You have the right to move. You have the right to buy and maintain your own damn house and not pretend like your wellbeing ought to be more important to someone else than it is to you.

I honestly wish that were an option right now.

[XXX-er]

Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys ain't dumb
get an electric wood splitter
push the button/pull the lever
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

Money for nothing and your chicks for free

[bodywhomper]

Here's what i found. I'll bet you'll find more of you spend more than the two minutes that i looked
https://www.osbar.org/public/legalin...bitability.htm
https://www.osbar.org/public/legalin...epairsMade.htm

[Bronco]

Moar info needed to render a verdict:
Is the wood stove the "only" source of heat?
Are you operating the stove in a manner that is within acceptable standards (seasoned wood etc)
Is there some actual evidence that the stove is malfunctioning? I mean other than someone's opinion from looking at photos on the Internet.

[splitinbend]

Moar info needed to render a verdict:
Is the wood stove the "only" source of heat?
Are you operating the stove in a manner that is within acceptable standards (seasoned wood etc)
Is there some actual evidence that the stove is malfunctioning? I mean other than someone's opinion from looking at photos on the Internet.

It it's the only source of heat for the cabin. I enjoy they place but am learning old stoves are unhealthy. Wood is definitely seasoned properly. We had it inspected prior to the winter and the cleaner said he could tell we burned properly and hot as the pipe was relatively clean. As an asthmatic my lungs are super sensitive to smoke and it gets to me occasionally. Landlords are nice don't get me wrong but I can't afford my own house and want to be safe in my rental.

[Bronco]

Sorry to hear about the asthma, sounds like you'd be a good candidate for breaking the lease due to health reasons.

[bodywhomper]

assuming that you know how to correctly operate your wood stove, i see this as a habitability (or lack of habitability) issue because your home's heating system is not installed properly, safe, and/or in good working order, and thus your landlord has not met the state-required habitability standards of a rental unit. if you want to keep your place, i'd suggest speaking to the landlord and having a written agreement about making the "repairs" yourself and deducting all expenses from your rent, meaning buying a new stove and having it properly installed, inspected, etc. The fallback is to break your lease and take your landlord to small claims court for additional expenses (rent/deposit/etc) that you made while unknowingly occupying and renting a unit that did not meet the habitability standard. Often, county or city governments have services (or can direct you to services) that help renters through some of this process.

[LightRanger]

^^^ That.

[splitinbend]

assuming that you know how to correctly operate your wood stove, i see this as a habitability (or lack of habitability) issue because your home's heating system is not installed properly, safe, and/or in good working order, and thus your landlord has not met the state-required habitability standards of a rental unit. if you want to keep your place, i'd suggest speaking to the landlord and having a written agreement about making the "repairs" yourself and deducting all expenses from your rent, meaning buying a new stove and having it properly installed, inspected, etc. The fallback is to break your lease and take your landlord to small claims court for additional expenses (rent/deposit/etc) that you made while unknowingly occupying and renting a unit that did not meet the habitability standard. Often, county or city governments have services (or can direct you to services) that help renters through some of this process.

Thank you for the informative response, it was quite helpful.

[bodywhomper]

you're welcome. look at the link I posted a few posts higher.

[highangle]

When I lived in Alaska, I liked to wait to split until the temp was -25 or below. Stuff just flew apart. Mostly spruce and birch.

I used to take the kids up the hill to cut Personal Use white spruce and birch in the cold. We'd camp. The kids loved it, even my daughter.
Now I just wear shirtsleeves and go to the riverbed and collect mostly white, Lutz, Sitka, and the occasional birch log off the gravel with the trailer winch, or a saw winch and peavys.



Clear Sitka splits real nice no matter what temp:

[Meadow Skipper]

Clear Sitka splits real nice no matter what temp:

That's a great video. I really enjoyed it, thanks for posting it.

I live in the southern Rockies now, and we have Englemann and Co. Blue spruce. When I'm splitting and tossing, it often makes such a pretty sound that it reminds me of why spruce is used to make musical instruments.

But we never get trees as big as those beautiful Sitkas.

[highangle]

That's a great video. I really enjoyed it, thanks for posting it.

I live in the southern Rockies now, and we have Englemann and Co. Blue spruce. When I'm splitting and tossing, it often makes such a pretty sound that it reminds me of why spruce is used to make musical instruments.

But we never get trees as big as those beautiful Sitkas.

I like Martins and Goodalls, but Bob Taylor and company definitely has their shit together, and they make some really cool vids about the processes of luthiery.

Clear Englemann white and Adirondack red spruces are prized more as tonewoods than even Sitka. This has a lot to do with their exceptional tonal qualities, but it also may be due to the fact that trees big enough and clear enough are really hard to find anymore, and most are rightly protected one way or another.

On another note...
The 2015 Capitol Christmas tree came from just a few miles up the road from my home. Stokeworthy!





http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/journe...laska/36074832


http://www.reuters.com/video/2015/12...RuWQMsvdHRy.97

[Bobby Stainless]

Griswold. lol.

[highangle]

"Griswold" means something like greywood in Germanic Old English, so it's probably fitting she did the writeup. The National Xmas tree is kind of a big deal here still...

Carol is pretty cool. Big Kafka fan. She wrote a hilarious account of the nutbag who spent 45 minutes addressing our city council about her Biblical tribulations fleeing a ungeheures Ungeziefer (bedbug) infestation at her indigent housing unit in Anchorage a couple years ago. I still laugh just thinking about it.

[~mikey b]

So PG&E contractors were here falling hazard trees last week. This is the first time I've seen my house in the daylight since Dec 22. Notice how everything is "neatly stacked". Got a few years worth of pine and fir on deck. No driving. Might buy a splitter.