EAST COAST ROLL CALL #8 14/15 A NEW HOPE

[Bottleman]

Is this considered east coast?

Nashville state Capitol Building "Hill". about an inch of ice

Super rad and mad props! Been there, have not skied it. Just sent a bud to Printer's Alley - youse guys have a great scene. I need a SATCO meal STAT!

[akokskis]

Just to remind all, skiing is serious business. Here's a few from the weekend. Took a long walk in a place that time forgot to drive the big bus down the neon avenue

[ex-powderbroker]

I'm with the Cock, she already paid for a lapse in judgement with her life, no need to rub salt in the wounds of any family members that might read this. I hardly think she was the victim of a once a year trip to the Whites, with a background like hers I am sure that she was extremely confident in herself, her expensive gear, and mostly a desire to challenge herself in all activities. It's not like her brain was firing on 3 cylinders. Everyone has a different take on what kind of risk is worth it to them. Saying she fucked up takes about as much courage as saying the sun will come out tomorrow, somewhere. And despite the whole thing being entirely tragic, it is not the first fatality on Mount Washington and it will certainly not be the last. There is some good though that could come out of this as it hopefully opens up peoples eyes a bit more to truly respect the mountains and mother nature.

It's ok to feel: "It was too dangerous for me to do, but I can almost understand someone else wanting to push their limits".

That's how I feel about lots of things, like mountain biking most the time, base jumping, skiing at the snow bowl, and so on.



There, I said something about this because.

Also, I spent a good portion of my day skiing on Sunday with a guy named Ken from near Albany. He has grandkids that he skis with, used to poach the slides back in the day, and still loved to shred the woods and search for fresh. Honestly, that's my goal. I want to be in my 80s and still rocking the pomas at Hickory bell to bell.

[ex-powderbroker]

I'm with the Cock, she already paid for a lapse in judgement with her life, no need to rub salt in the wounds of any family members that might read this. I hardly think she was the victim of a once a year trip to the Whites, with a background like hers I am sure that she was extremely confident in herself, her expensive gear, and mostly a desire to challenge herself in all activities. It's not like her brain was firing on 3 cylinders. Everyone has a different take on what kind of risk is worth it to them. Saying she fucked up takes about as much courage as saying the sun will come out tomorrow, somewhere. And despite the whole thing being entirely tragic, it is not the first fatality on Mount Washington and it will certainly not be the last. There is some good though that could come out of this as it hopefully opens up peoples eyes a bit more to truly respect the mountains and mother nature.

It's ok to feel: "It was too dangerous for me to do, but I can almost understand someone else wanting to push their limits".

That's how I feel about lots of things, like mountain biking most the time, base jumping, skiing at the snow bowl, and so on.



There, I said something about this because.

Also, I spent a good portion of my day skiing on Sunday with a guy named Ken from near Albany. He has grandkids that he skis with, used to poach the slides back in the day, and still loved to shred the woods and search for fresh. Honestly, that's my goal. I want to be in my 80s and still rocking the pomas at Hickory bell to bell.

edit to add: I just read it was her first time in the Whites, I take it all back.... suicide mission. Yikes.

[ex-powderbroker]

This still applies does it not? :
"I am sure that she was extremely confident in herself, her expensive gear, and mostly a desire to challenge herself in all activities. It's not like her brain was firing on 3 cylinders. Everyone has a different take on what kind of risk is worth it to them. Saying she fucked up takes about as much courage as saying the sun will come out tomorrow, somewhere"
The girl grew up in Siberia. Maybe she underestimated the extreme weather the white mountains are capable of. I don't really care. She was pushing herself beyond what most would even consider attempting and it does no one any good to rub her name in the dirt, especially from people who don't attempt anything near what she did attempt.

It still applies, is life complex of what?



Anyone want to ice climb this weekend in the Catskills? (not my shot, just some porn from Climbing mag about Devil's Kitchen)

[Vt-Freeheel]

I'm confused??^^^^

10.4` bob with 3/4" new snow so far.

I like the contrast in that Celts pic.

[BigDaddy]

Farmers Almanac job in the future? (Dated: Jan. 8):

In the better news dept., I just ran some numbers with monthly snowfall averages for central VT (Killington) and the bottom line is we generally get another 175 inches of snow from this day forward.

Essentially 2.5 times what we have already gotten. Jan., Feb. and March are each usually over 50 inches. So chin up... winter is just getting started!

On a more sobering note, but with a happy ending: Cambridge Avalanche Buries Five People

"I thought I was going to die -- literally. I was scared," said Michaella Costa, 20, who was trapped by the snow.

The man was partially dug out by his brother and a rink employee before firefighters arrived to free him, according to employee Robert Biasella.

A 33-year-old year man and Costa, both from Cambridge, were taken to the hospital complaining of neck injuries.

"I moved my head so I could scream for help, and then there were other people. There was like two other guys that were screaming for help, too," Costa said.

Police spokesman Jeremy Warnick said the five were walking on a path between the Simoni Ice Skating Arena in Cambridge and sports playing fields when they had the "unfortunate luck" of being in the spot where the snow fell off the roof at about 6:30 p.m.

"I don't think they had any warning. This came right down on them -- literally," Deputy Supt. Jack Albert said.

Biasella said a woman came in "frantically asking for help," and he and his supervisor ran outside. Biasella said he saw a young woman crying, as she was being helped out of the snow, and saw a man in the snow.

"We took shovels and were digging frantically," he said.

He said that he helped free a man who was waist-high in snow and that man used a shovel to find his brother, who was buried. Biasella said they managed to clear the snow around him and rescuers then arrived....

I saw some ice fall off and it almost took out two toddlers on the sidewalk yesterday. Weird as it sounds, be careful in the city.


PTT!

[BigDaddy]

Definitely east coast and great to see Tennessee make the ECRC

Is this considered east coast?

Nashville state Capitol Building "Hill". about an inch of ice

[Vt-Freeheel]

Fast Grass ^^^

Latest German Flats wall of shame victim, road wet though not icy. Must have been doing around 50 to ride so much snowbank.

[robrox]

...
I saw some ice fall off and it almost took out two toddlers on the sidewalk yesterday. Weird as it sounds, be careful in the city....

Seconded!
When we get a couple of warm days or that rain...look out! That rating will go from Moderate past Considerable.....not joking!

[buttahflake]

Getting mine, this is going to be an awesome spring season and no one does it better than the BEAST. Who else is in?

Will also be heading East during the migration, feeling great this year.

still making snow on SupahStah!
it's gonna be a long spring.
looking forward to seeing some of y'all up there.
i'll be up there this afternoon, if anyone's around .
safety first

[chrisgpic]

Also, I spent a good portion of my day skiing on Sunday with a guy named Ken from near Albany. He has grandkids that he skis with, used to poach the slides back in the day, and still loved to shred the woods and search for fresh. Honestly, that's my goal. I want to be in my 80s and still rocking the pomas at Hickory bell to bell.

Couldn't agree more. I hope I'm that lucky at 80.

[D-Roc]

Fuck it. I officially quit the internet. Have fun arm chairing quarterbacks.

Yes!

[Peruvian]

While there is clearly an inverse relationship between VO Max and rhythm, I'm glad to see the US Nordic Ski team getting a chance to blow off steam before the World Championships.

USSA Facebook video

[strawjack]

Fuck it. I officially quit the internet. Have fun arm chairing quarterbacks.

edit to add: I just read it was her first time in the Whites, I take it all back.... suicide mission. Yikes.

I'm not judging and this type of discussion is how people learn. I don't know who else read(s) 'accidents in NA mountaineering' as well as the whitewater reports, but I used to before this internet thing and when I pushed my limits. So taking sides and making this personal is silly. It happened and it's extremely sad, but hopefully something positive will come from it.

With all that said, I think it was suicide. She was obviously intelligent and somewhat skilled in mountaineering, so nothing adds up except a suicide...well thought out to make it look like a bad decision which relieves some pain of those left behind.

It just keeps snowing

[D-Roc]

[QUOTE=ml242;4434794]It still applies, is life complex of what?



Anyone want to ice climb this weekend in the Catskills? (not my shot, just some porn from Climbing mag about Devil's Kitchen)[/QUO

ill climb with you, but you got to come to Smuggs...

[robrox]

...well thought out to make it look like a bad decision which relieves some pain of those left behind. .

Sealed indictments, tax problems, change in medication, cheating spouse, horrible diagnosis...the list is just about endless. The thing looked fishy to me on first impression.

Also a longterm reader of AINAM. No matter how it turns out when all the facts are known, it will remain a real head shaker.

The Presis are a favorite place for many of us and we seem to be sharing the love with folks we figure are ready for it. Let's keep up the good work. Going EYT in the Western Whites this w/e, but based on LFTGLY's report on yesterday, "the westside" is coming along nicely.

[Anospa]

Healthy cornice growing across the street from South Station on Monday:



Very likely skiing tomorrow, much excite.

[BigDaddy]

^That's some serious tonnage hanging over!


Suicide was my first thought, but didn't want to "cloud" the waters. I figured cancer, but life can be rough, too.

And everyone's initial response of shock and questioning her judgement is pretty normal. Shit, we were near there skiing Sunday and it was blowing us uphill. Can't imagine how intense that ridge was.

[robrox]

Took my 4 year old to Frozen on Ice today. It was her first time in the Garden so I made sure we got there early enough to wander around for a little while...

Priceless!

Way to go JPH!

[neufox47]

So she may have been okay ... with her plan to ... start at the App parking lot ... then summit Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Washington ... and meet her husband at the Cog only thirteen hours later ... with that kind of forecast for the weather to deteriorate throughout the day ... so much that according to Rick Wilcox:


More here:
http://www.conwaydailysun.com/newsx/...offers-lessons
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...19179/0/SEARCH

As for her relevant skills and route-specific knowledge, her experience on Kilimanjaro has been cited, but that place's relevance to mountaineering is summed up well in this Monty Python excerpt:

As for being guided up Elbrus, sure, that's relevant for building up skills in winter travel, but not for trip planning, navigation, decision making, and other skills relevant to that trip plan.
Plus the trip plan reveals a lack of route-specific knowledge, as it was pretty much humanly impossible that day, especially in only thirteen hours (lacking even snowshoes), and apparently w/o anything for any emergency bivy.

It's certainly not a decision I would have made. But I don't think there are many lessons here for anyone but a total newbie. She went into the teeth of the storm and paid the ultimate price. If any of the responders want to come out and criticize, admonish, or shake their fist at her, they have every right.

[danmelon]

Yo! props TC & MTLripper! TGR IG showing some EC mag love. #instafame

[east or bust]

Nice!^

[masaraksh]

#VTah

[therudeness]

damn ! i'll be samplin' some of the one and only mtl_ripper's fresh brew at a cabin near the VT border this weekend.

hope this fame doesn't go to his head!! #spanserd