GUNS!!!!!!!!

[TAFKALVS]

Heal up dood, sorry that happened.

Thanks, it hurts but the pain is going away...

[sb]

good pain meds and beer will do that

[TAFKALVS]

On the plus, finally got our chest holster ready for sale:




PM me if you want one.

[TAFKALVS]

Andyou wonder why I figure some of you asshats shouldn't have access to firearms. Thank god it was your own hand and not somebody else's head, chest, or child. If you had any integrity you'd sell every gun you own now.

Jesus dude, get off your high horse. Ever made a mistake driving a car?? skiing??? mtn biking??? I guess not. I made a mistake and took ownership of it, not sure how I'm lacking integrity. I think that takes courage. I guess ad hominem attacks are the way of showing true integrity?

[snoqpass]

You make holsters for a p30

[jgb@etree]

Your next mistake might well kill someone. Integrity includes due concern for the safety of others, especially when we're talking about your hobby.

I know a shitload of people who shoot on a reuglar basis. I have been shooting for the last 30 years. I have NEVER had an accidental discharge. Nobody I know has EVER had an accidental discharge. Your mistake tells us you are too dumb to be trusted with firearms. How many times hav eyou bitched about how "responsible gun owners should be trusted?" Well, you aren't responsible, you cannot be trusted. Get rid of your firearms and STOP PLAYING WITH GUNS, they're not toys.

I remember seeing a thread with a car of yours upside down on the side of the road in a single car accident. You lost control of the vehicle causing it to flip - endangering your childs life, no? Is it not conceivable that the negligence leading to that accident could have easily resulted in the death or disability of another person had it occurred in another place/time/situation? What if a car were coming in the other direction? As a result of the accident, did you immediately stop driving? Did any sanctimonious fucktards pop up and demand it?

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...the-Anti-Stoke

[stuckathuntermtn]

Pwnd

[BmillsSkier]

Andyou wonder why I figure some of you asshats shouldn't have access to firearms. Thank god it was your own hand and not somebody else's head, chest, or child. If you had any integrity you'd sell every gun you own now.

How's that Pilot of yours doing Pio?



Dude, you take self-righteousness to an all-time level.

[Conundrum]

Well, I was hoping to share some gun stoke, with my new .300, etc but this happened the day before I went to the range:




I'm sharing this hoping somebody can learn from my mistake. I assumed a new firearm that I was checking out was empty, as I had cleared it earlier. Instead when I half-assed "cleared it", I loaded a round in the chamber and put a 9mm size hole in my finger. 6 screws, 23 stitches and 1 plate later my finger is back together. Never thought I'd ever have a ND, but I became to comfortable and let my guard down. I blame no one but myself.

Don't forget that a gun is lethal weapon. I touch so many at my job that they started to feel like tennis rackets. Don't let familiarity breed complacency.

If anybody wants to see it, I'll post a couple pictures of the wound in a separate thread. It's gnarly. The bullet tumbled and made a pretty good mess of things. Glad it was a FMJ round not a hollowpoint nor something more powerful like a .45. Probably wouldn't have a finger.

Really thankful that I didn't hit anywhere worse.

Takes a big guy to admit something like this. You didn't have to post this. I was having a beer with a non-shooting friend after taking my new mp45c out tonight. He admitted that he was scared of guns and I told him I was a little nervous driving to my shooting zone with a new gun. and that was the truth. I know I don't have to say this but thanks for the reminder about complacency. Sucks to admit a mistake. Any chance those holsters will be made for an LCR or mp45c?

Andyou wonder why I figure some of you asshats shouldn't have access to firearms. Thank god it was your own hand and not somebody else's head, chest, or child. If you had any integrity you'd sell every gun you own now.

You need to calm the fuck down.

How's that Pilot of yours doing Pio?



Dude, you take self-righteousness to an all-time level.

By wrecking the way you did on this particular road you came much closer to altering my life than Leavenworth did by altering his finger. I saw you car upside down when I drove by shortly after which is much closer to me than any bullet fired by ls. I do t have much of a point other than you should be careful of where you throw stones.

Back to the gun stoke. Really liked my new sidearm. The trigger could use some work but would like to throw some more down range before any conclusions.

[Conundrum]

yep, I made a mistake that injured nobody, and only caused damage to my own property. Also, there was no way I even COULD HAVE done serious harm to anyone, since I was travellin gat all of 20 mph.

30 + years of shooting, and NEVER ONCE has a round gone off that I didn't intend to shoot. yeah, I wrecked a car. And so I drive a car with safety features, I carry insurance, I took classes, I am required to register the vehicle, I have to prove I have the insurance. When all of that shit goes along with owning a gun, I'll shut up. In the meantime, Leavenworth is a fucking moron who shouldn't handle firearms.

How do you know he wasn't in a safe location? Muzzle control exists and he practiced it or he might be dead. Do you know if he was anywhere near anyone else? No one was hurt but him. Is it cool he fucked up his finger? No. Did he hurt anyone but himself? No.

Well, yep, you just got on my you're a fucking moron list. You roll a car with your son in it and another guy shoots himself in the finger and you unleash on that guy over responsibility. Plus, I know where you shit the bed and wrecked. And yeah, that road can be slick but not much of an excuse for how you ended up. Slow down before you hurt someone. Sell all your cars.

I can tell you which mistake I'd lose more sleep over.

[TAFKALVS]

I don't feel like feeding the troll anymore, but I have taken hours of firearms training, shoot with ex-sf, mil and leo guys. I have taught dozens of people firearms safety and shooting skills. This last summer I shot close to 10,000 rounds mostly through my glock 19 with no mishap, nor injury to others. I am careful, cautious and very conscious about safety. I keep my firearms locked up with the ammo and magazines separately stored. I preach endlessly about the 4 rules and have gotten into it at the range with people who are handling guns negligently.

I have no children, and no one was in the immediate area when it happened. It was a friend's new gun that I was checking out. I had cleared it and emptied all the magazine's earlier in the day. He put a loaded mag in the gun when I was doing something else. He feels pretty terrible, but I only blame myself for not following my normal safety procedures. Have you never dry fired a gun to check out the trigger or strip it down?

James, I'm really pretty surprised at your attitude. Isn't this something that we should encourage gun owners to talk about to hopefully improve safety or awareness? Most of the people I know who have done something like this only admitted it to me after mine, in confidence that I wouldn't share details with others. Perhaps there are some folks you know who are the same way.

But to continually attack my character when I am admitting fault and only trying to raise awareness about something bad that can happen due to personal negligence seems really unfair.

I used think really poorly of people who had ND but now I understand how it happens.

And I'd like to point out that I work in the gun industry and am well acquainted with irresponsible and scary gun owners, and I know for a fact I am not one of them.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

You get that finger fixed in town here? I was on call last night.

[sb]

LS, don't loose any sleep over what shitwad sez on the intranets.

You know what you did and already lernt from it.

Heal up is all u gotta do.

[Conundrum]

Get over yourself. I didn't drive that corner slower because of your accident. I drove it the way I always do that hasn't wrecked me, safely. We're just going to have to disagree here and you can justify your accident while chastising his. If you treat your guns like you do driving, it's pretty obvious of what's eventually going to happen. You'll "wreck" and "total" something but it's no big deal because you drive safely so you can justify it.

And no, if I would have been in the other lane and you slid into mine, we could have bent some sheet metal or at that particular place, I could have rolled down a few hundred foot embankment depending on how the accident played out. There's a reason there's concrete jersey barrier in the picture in front of your rolled car. And to lookers right, just another 500' slope down to a creek. What if your car hit the tail of mine causing me to slide off in either place? (Kind of like saying what if Leavanworth's buddy was int he room, we can all think up what ifs). 500' of rolling sheet metal is little more damage than you writing me a check for a bent quarter panel. So yes, I write like I know something because I know that exact spot, I know how slick it was that day, and you come on saying you saved me from making the same mistake you did...hardly. I've driven that road thousands of times and pulled people out of the ditch enough to buy me some good karma or at least a beer at the Hallow after getting down. Kind of like saying you've been shooting for years without mishap just like your response to Leavenworth.

I like guns and would register and insure my guns if the law required it. I've either inherited or purchased all my firearms legally. The serial numbers are on record for the purchases. I have a CWP. I'm not sure of any insurance anyone can even purchase for gun ownership.

Not much more to say that I think will matter to you so good luck in your future shooting and driving endeavors. Keep the rubber on the road eh buddy.

[TNKen]

Karma is a bitch Pio. Wait for it.......

[sb]

9 out 10 dentist have jpio on the ignore list.

[Art Shirk]

scotty's clever, kind of like a yorkie is.

Conundrum, you make an excellent point. Accidents WILL happen. We don't let kids drive cars, because accidents will happen. We don't let serial violators drive cars, because accidents will happen. We require insurance because accidents will happen. We require people to keep their cars in specified areas of the public (streets, parking lots, and NOT sidewalks, office lobbies) because accidents will happen.

And, yes, accidents have even happened to me. I would like to thank Leavenwroth and Conundrum for convincing me more strongly than ever that guns don't belong in public, don't belong in the hands of people who have committed multiple crimes (even misdemeanors), who don't have the financial wherewithal (whtehr that's personal assets or insurance) to pay for the accidents they will have. If we could all just agree on a set of commonsense laws that would address accidenets just like the one I had, then I would be able to stop worrying about assholes with the "gun stoke." I would probably not have to read any more stories about toddlers killing their moms in the local Wal-Mart. I would not have to think seriously about whewther I should put a "no guns" sign on the front door of my office to keep idiots and their accidents away from me and my co-workers.

So, are we all in agreement then about three points? (1) accidents WILL happen, even with deadly weapons where everyone shoujld know better; (2) we should regulate the ownership and use of such weapons precisely because accidents WILL happen; and, this one's the bonus, for everyone who agrees with (1) and (2), I will agree with you that (3) when it comes to protecting personal safety and the lives of human beings, Jamespio is a raging asshole.

So that's either three for three, and we're in agreement including about my personality, or we switch number 3 around and you're the asshole because you think your gun stoke is more important than everyone else's safety.

You are insufferable. It's this sort of deluded mental masturbation that gives attorneys bad names.

[zeroforhire]

You are insufferable. It's this sort of deluded mental masturbation that gives attorneys bad names.

Amen.

[BmillsSkier]

I never click on this thread as I'm not really one for gun stoke. Not anti by any means just not my normal bag so to speak.

I accidentally click on it yesterday to see our insufferable social crusader Pio using the thread to bring down someone who was making an embarrassing post to remind everyone about safety, AND to rail on about his gun control platform. Unreal.

Pio, take it to polyasshat or just deem us all unworthy of your crusades and delete your profile here. You're a sad, petty little man who gets off on belittling others while trying to assert your own brand I moral authority. Just leave man, I can't think of a single person here who would miss you.

Where's Hugh or Jer when you need em?

[jgb@etree]

Fuck spio. Let's get back to the stoke.



Only thing left ruger on this 10/22 is the receiver. Green Mountain fluted bull barrel that has been threaded - along with the receiver - to eliminate the v-block. Hogue stock, Hornet Black Max trigger group (2lbs, no creep, takeup or overtravel) Kidd bolt, charging handle and buffer. I've since replaced the factory extended mag release with Kidd's offering.

Sweet shooting little 22.

Found this one of the Mrs blasting clays @ Orvis this past fall:



Good times.

[Tye 1on]

You know, if this thread got moved to polyasshat, I would never post in it again.

So far, I'm getting disagreement which I actually appreciate, from people who seem intelligent. I'm getting hate from well-known assholes. I can live with that.

So back to my normally scheduled rant: "gun stoke" is for amateurs and pussies. If people would stop PLAYING with deadly weapons (which is all that most of you on this thread do), there would be a massive reduction in accidental shootings, there would be a massive reduction in the number of guns that end up on the streets and in the hands of criminals, and we would not have to reduce the proper carrying and use of firearms at all.

It's not guns I oppose, it's assholes who think guns are a source of "stoke." "Gun stoke" is a disease, a form of the same disorder that causes penis calluses.

That would then be the only good reason to move it to polyass.

Getting disagreement is one thing, arguing for pages as an asshole is another.

This is a generally unmoderated forum, but you're pushing the limit pretty effectively.

[BmillsSkier]

I realized that I owe Leavenworth an apology, which I have extended to him. I judged his character based on an accident and I should not have done that. I actually have no basis on which to judge his character.

How big of you. Where was that? We must have missed it in your continued attack posts.

Seriously man, just leave TGR. It can't be fun being the guy no one likes.

[zeroforhire]

At least jamespio bumped the stoke to the top multiple times. Way to share the stoke!

[jgb@etree]

Got 6.8 SPC?

[irul&ublo]