French Quarter Going Bye-Bye.

[Mott the Hoople]

BUILDING COLLAPSE IN FRENCH QUARTER FRAYS NERVES
BY CAIN BURDEAU
ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- IThe collapse of a 210-year-old building in the heart of the French Quarter is raising warning flags about decay and a lack of rigorous inspections in one of America's oldest and most fragile neighborhoods.

No one was injured when the three-story, brick-and-cypress building collapsed in late October, but the episode has thrown into focus an array of problems throughout the nearly 300-year-old Quarter. Among them: structural decay, voracious termites at work on aged wood beams, Louisiana's humid climate, absentee landlords and the stresses of modern life as heavy trucks rattle streets and balconied buildings standing shoulder to shoulder.

Perhaps the biggest problem, though, is that no one is charged with making sure the Quarter's 3,000 old buildings are stable. And the city has no in-depth inspection policy tailored to the distinct qualities of its first neighborhood.

The single inspector at the Vieux Carre Commission, the city's zoning arm for the Quarter, only has authority to inspect a building's exterior. Citations are routine for gaudy signs and Plexiglas - violations of historical standards - or letting a facade decay. Owners can't be cited for letting a floor sag or allowing mortar to deteriorate to dust on the interiors of their buildings. There are city building and fire inspectors, but they do not do random inspections of old structures.

The commission's check-ups amount to "a visual inspection that occurs from the streets, corners, and any aerial views that we are readily afforded," said commission chairman Nicholas Musso. "We do not have the ability to enter a piece of property, or a courtyard, or a rear of a building. It could have been crucial in this particular instance."

Even based on superficial assessments, he's concerned about the condition of some structures: "We do have a series of buildings that are highly suspect, should we say."

Though many residents and preservationists deem the collapse a wake-up call, longtime Quarter real estate agent Michael Wilkinson thinks the steady rise of wealthier owners ensures most properties are being looked after. Property values have increased by as much as 30 percent in recent years.

"There's a lot of incentive - financial and otherwise - to maintain these properties," Wilkinson said. "It's a very wealthy area."

For now, Musso said, the commission hopes property owners will take the initiative and ask inspectors to come in and take a look around.

It's not as though there are no interior inspections. Fire department and city inspectors routinely examine commercial properties - the myriad of crowded bars and restaurants that make the Quarter so appealing to the 9.2 million tourists who visited New Orleans last year. Building inspectors weigh in whenever major renovations are done to commercial or residential property. And banks require a building to be inspected before backing a purchase.

When it comes to inspections and enforcing good maintenance, New Orleans' rules don't differ much from most historic cities and towns, said John Hildreth, a regional vice president for the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Regulations in Boston and New York, for instance, largely match those in New Orleans.

Ultimately, that means most of the older structures aren't undergoing regular reviews.

The collapse near the heart of the Quarter came at lunchtime on a Tuesday on a block of Royal Street lined with high-end art galleries, boutiques, jewelry stores and restaurants. Renters in the fallen building, one of the earliest three-story structures in the Quarter, were not at home when it caved in.

"Incredibly, no one got killed," said Peter Trapolin, an architect who regularly works in the Quarter and who believes the neighborhood needs a stronger inspection protocol.

The owners of the building were cited in 2011 for allowing the facade to decay, but the Vieux Carre Commission has said no single problem caused the collapse. In the past year alone, 302 warnings were issued to owners whose structures were considered, at least on the exterior, to be in dangerously bad condition, according to figures provided by the city.

The elderly lady who owned the building operated a small shop where she cut keys and made second-line umbrellas, the decorative parasols common in jazz processions, until about two years ago, said Doc Hawley, an amateur neighborhood historian and a well-known figure around the Quarter for his decades as the captain of the Natchez steamboat.

"I watched them pull out the old timbers," he said, standing somberly in front of a pile of bricks where the facade once stood. "They were badly damaged by termites."

Behind the stuccoed walls of the Quarter's old buildings, bricks made hundreds of years ago from Mississippi River mud are crumbling. Add to the stress load hurricanes, heavy tourist traffic, and a constant rumbling of multi-ton trucks carrying beer, food, garbage and heavy equipment.

"These buildings were built for horse and buggies," Hawley said. "I lie in bed and I feel my house (in the Quarter) go up and down. The pictures on my walls bounce up and down when the big trucks go by outside."

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[Hugh Conway]

Yer doin' a heck of a job mottie!

[Harry]

I have no idea what Mott is trying to say with this post. Ban beer trucks ? That will go over well.

[iceman]

Gotta be Barry's fault somehow.

[Benny Profane]

Gotta be Barry's fault somehow.

I was just waiting for the it's the Muslim kenyan's fault. I was let down.

[BmillsSkier]

Gotta be Barry's fault somehow.

This meme is sounding a lot like W's supporters 8 years ago. "This has to be Bush's fault." Lemme guess, in 2 years we'll all be saying "Blame Hillary"? We've gotten lazy in our political rah-rah.

What was the thread about?

[Benny Profane]

Old shit falling down.

[BmillsSkier]

Old shit falling down.

Kevin Garnett?

[CookieMonster]

Prattle, prattle, prattle.

When are you going to blame Obama?

[Mott the Hoople]

When are you going to blame Obama?

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody knows it's Bush's fault. smh.
It was just a FYI. A "hey, lookie here!" A "did anybody see this?" Paranoia strikes deep and I'll leave it to you to somehow politicize it.

[Cruiser]

tl;dr but my folks own a building on Bourbon. They (and their tenant) spend plenty keeping it in good shape. Don't think it's gonna fall down anytime too soon.

[nickwm21]

So a 210 year old, un-reinforced masonry structure, built on a below sea level flood plane collapsed a few years after the worst weather event for the region in recorded history. Crazy huh.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Technically, the French Quarter is above sealevel (just barely, I guess). Which is a shame, because it really needs a bath.

[DasBlunt]

I simultaneously embrace and avoid voodoo........watch the fuck out.

[irul&ublo]

Old shit falling down.

Like Larry's erection?


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[Rodneyyee]

So a 210 year old, un-reinforced masonry structure, built on a below sea level flood plane collapsed a few years after the worst weather event for the region in recorded history. Crazy huh.

This and the Ebolas are sure signs of the end times.

[Tippster]

Technically, the French Quarter is above sealevel (just barely, I guess). Which is a shame, because it really needs a bath.

Which is why it didn't flood when the levees broke. Remember - the hurricane didn't flood the city - the river did.

Gotta be Barry's fault somehow.

I was just waiting for the it's the Muslim kenyan's fault. I was let down.

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody knows it's Bush's fault. smh.
It was just a FYI. A "hey, lookie here!" A "did anybody see this?" Paranoia strikes deep and I'll leave it to you to somehow politicize it.

Funny when the hens come back to roost.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

[QUOTE=Tippster;4355098]Which is why it didn't flood when the levees broke. Remember - the hurricane didn't flood the city - the river.

Didn't the hurricane surge overflow the levee walls and lead to more breaches once weakened?

the city flooded because none of their pumps were operational, but who knows if they would have mattered anyways.


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[iceman]

It was just a FYI. A "hey, lookie here!" A "did anybody see this?" Paranoia strikes deep and I'll leave it to you to somehow politicize it.

Everything you post is political but people are "paranoid" because they think there must be a political message in your "FYI" post? Okay.

[alfajores]

All great questions about flooding. In the 4 years I lived in New Orleans post Katrina, the general understanding that was written in "history" is that the storm surge affected the area outside the levee (the levee walls are huge and remind me of the B science fiction film Monsters on a smaller scale). The levee did rupture due to a stray barge ramming it in the 9th ward which is the other side of the channel from the French quarter. The "city" as I imagine everyone here is referring to it is protected by a very different levee but al things are connected there and one gate failed allowing more water into the 7th ward (St Roch). So the 9th ward was flooded from a levee rupture on one side, then the 7th ward got some of that water. The city filled with some rain water which could account for 6 inches on a heavy summer rain and leave some puddles a couple feet deep. Add to that a loss of power that turned off many of the pumps that suck ground water out of the city and dump it in the river, Lake Ponchatrain, and some of the Vieux's. Finally, the water level of lake Ponchatrain rose and overcame the shores on the south side, flooding Lakeshore Dr and the area by the old airport and drained through natural grades into Midcity, which is lakeside of the 9th ward.

All said and done, living off the river levee in the garden district, French Quarter, and parts of Uptown were the dryest of all and suffered mostly from rain water and a lack of pumping to pull out the water in the ground. Plus, New Orleans only has one water treatment facility and it was flooded with some deaths. They use a mixed storm water and waste water system like San Francisco and until they pulled the old plant online, they were unable to treat water in the sewer and storm drains.

Sum it up, if all of what I was taught working in environmental defense and justice in New Orleans was true, a lot of the assumptions made here are probably wrong. I doubt everything in was taught was 100% accurate but it would lead me to advise you see When the Levee Broke, If God is Willing, Da Creek Don't Rise, Trouble the Water, and The Storm. This will be more cost effective than flying to New Orleans and meeting all the survivors and story tellers about the incident. Also a great play if you can find it was the Katrina Monologues. That was a powerful one too.

A better way to think about Katrina is as an engineering failure and an environmental justice disaster. He Army Corps of Engineers works hard and is under budget to maintain this type of work. They have a few blunders like the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, which destroyed the wetland that buffered Hurricane Betsy (which had a much greater storm surge and thus more flood potential). The lost marsh grass would have had the power alone to reduce the grade of the hurricane by one or two categories. The lost chandelier islands at the mouth of the river from over engineering cost residents a giant solace in buffering more of the wind with added acres of marsh grass. MRGO allowed the hurricane to channelized and set its path directly into the city. The meandering of the Mississippi River would never allow that. This recurred in future hurricanes and will probably be a norm for hurricanes that land near New Orleans.

New Orleans Pronounced:
New oar-leans by Americans and Mayor Mitch Landreau
New Orlens by white New Orleanians
Nawlins by north Louisiana Cajuns
NuWarlins by all other New Orleanians

PM with questions unless they are for the good of the order.

[Benny Profane]

I always thought it was a clear lesson from God that you shouldn't be so stupid and build your city below sea level right next to the water.

[alfajores]

I always thought it was a clear lesson from God that you shouldn't be so stupid and build your city below sea level right next to the water.

Benny, then you would be thinking of another city. Until the early 20th century, New Orleans was close to 20' above sea level and did not suffer from flooding. You may not think highly of the French, but they knew not to build a city in a puddle. It was the aggressive land conversion for agriculture to support the largest city in North America that led to cutting and draining the wetlands and eventually pumping them that led to the ground to subside and the city to drop between 10 and 30 feet.

But you probably knew that, right?

[Benny Profane]

That's all very nice, but, if I was sitting on my back porch looking up at a huge tanker going out to the gulf in the channel UP THERE, I might consider moving to higher land before the big one hits.

And, that's funny, that "the French know how to build shit" thing.

[Skistack]

Benny, then you would be thinking of another city. Until the early 20th century, New Orleans was close to 20' above sea level and did not suffer from flooding. You may not think highly of the French, but they knew not to build a city in a puddle. It was the aggressive land conversion for agriculture to support the largest city in North America that led to cutting and draining the wetlands and eventually pumping them that led to the ground to subside and the city to drop between 10 and 30 feet.

But you probably knew that, right?

So the land is sinking and the oceans are rising. Will Nawlins disappear in in our lifetimes?

[alfajores]

So the land is sinking and the oceans are rising. Will Nawlins disappear in in our lifetimes?

Your guess is as good as mine. Some of the top urban planners are working on that question right now. I swear every other urban planner has a MIT or Harvard degree there and the industry for shoring and leveling has boomed for the last 10 years.