Lucky #7 EC Roll Call 2013-14!

[gpcharles]

just trying to fit in with this brave new VTBCABCDEFBC world... its just like the old , but with more synergy

[robrox]

how else are we going to achieve nexus and enact a paradigm shift toward best practices if we don't downsize and make more holistic the logistics of this mission critical bullseye? we have to watch the event horizon and make sure we don't just take down the quick-wins and low-hanging fruit, and need to think more hyperlocal/sustainable to leverage our social currency with our solutions to this challenge. there's new-economy out there. we need to eat what we kill, and remember the long tail if we're going to have a come to jesus moment

above all else we all have to touch base, reach-out to each other, push the envelope and spin-UP in order to ensure a win-win end-game that's buzzword compliant

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[neufox47]

Yeah, what is the problem again?

I think they are going to teach you how to prevent the trees from ever growing back?

Does a permit to cut on NFS land come with the class? Cuz that would be helpful.

[lynchdogger]

how else are we going to achieve nexus and enact a paradigm shift toward best practices if we don't downsize and make more holistic the logistics of this mission critical bullseye? we have to watch the event horizon and make sure we don't just take down the quick-wins and low-hanging fruit, and need to think more hyperlocal/sustainable to leverage our social currency with our solutions to this challenge. there's new-economy out there. we need to eat what we kill, and remember the long tail if we're going to have a come to jesus moment

above all else we all have to touch base, reach-out to each other, push the envelope and spin-UP in order to ensure a win-win end-game that's buzzword compliant

Wow. Bro you've been hitting the hash pipe hard. Nice to see you loosen up Francis.

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[Greenstateofmind]

Just wait until some knuckle headed hero tells a landowner. "It's fine, I took a class!"

[NmbrdDays]

150, maybe?

I'll mention the snowboard to him. Can't think of anyone coming through Burlington, though.

I'm cleaning out the closets this weekend. I should have some gear lying around that will fit him. He's about my size, just checking to make sure he wasn't a xl.

[gpcharles]

Wow. Bro you've been hitting the hash pipe hard. Nice to see you loosen up Francis.

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IVE ALWAYS BEEN LIGHTEND UP!@! JEEZ

[DoWork]

1). Cull the box alder/ moose hobble and remove deadfall.

2). Get better until you can ski the resulting trail.

3). The End

[robrox]

1). Cull the box alder/ moose hobble and remove deadfall.

2). Get better until you can ski the resulting trail.

3). The End

Since Jay is involved, this workshop will be a chance to reach out to mountain managers about regeneration strategies to let snow preserving trees grow up on lift-served ski areas just as much as strategies to open glades between ski trails.

The other matter that seems to be on folks mind is not something that will be advocated to or by a Forest Ranger. That being said, if you want to see the results of employing the concepts that will be discussed, join us for a work day at MRG.

[cat in january]

Could some one remind me what is going on with the land around Bolton Valley. Thought there was going to be a lot of glade cutting there or was it another area?

[Mr. Multiglisse]

how else are we going to achieve nexus and enact a paradigm shift toward best practices if we don't downsize and make more holistic the logistics of this mission critical bullseye? we have to watch the event horizon and make sure we don't just take down the quick-wins and low-hanging fruit, and need to think more hyperlocal/sustainable to leverage our social currency with our solutions to this challenge. there's new-economy out there. we need to eat what we kill, and remember the long tail if we're going to have a come to jesus moment

above all else we all have to touch base, reach-out to each other, push the envelope and spin-UP in order to ensure a win-win end-game that's buzzword compliant

Well done, sir.

[Mr. Multiglisse]

In other news, there are some strange goings-on up in Maine:
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/news...?currentPage=1

[NoPostholio]

Wow - that was craziest thing I ever read. That is a lot of cold winters.

[DoWork]

Since Jay is involved, this workshop will be a chance to reach out to mountain managers about regeneration strategies to let snow preserving trees grow up on lift-served ski areas just as much as strategies to open glades between ski trails.

The other matter that seems to be on folks mind is not something that will be advocated to or by a Forest Ranger. That being said, if you want to see the results of employing the concepts that will be discussed, join us for a work day at MRG.

I think it's fantastic that these guys are putting this together btw. There is no stopping people from cutting, that much we can be sure of. Might as well minimize the damage due to a lack of information and maximize the skiability of the line. I'd love to join you guys at Mad for a work day but I've got my hands way beyond full down in south central... Between normal work, hill welding projects, trail cuts and OEC renewal I will be up to my eyeballs until well after the snow flies.

Do you guys have a big box alder problem up there? We are thick with it down here. Ugh. Like rats! Good thing it at least cuts like warm butter.

[DoWork]

Get better until you can ski the resulting trail

Haha yeah man you roll those eyes

You sure showed me haha

[gpcharles]

In other news, there are some strange goings-on up in Maine:
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/news...?currentPage=1

wow. good read. thx

it's interesting to me how mice and insects and chipmunks and other pests can come into all our homes and steal food and water and shelter and no one really cares.. (well... i guess we execute them with snapping torture devices) but human's just CAN NOT.

[DoWork]

wow. good read. thx

it's interesting to me how mice and insects and chipmunks and other pests can come into all our homes and steal food and water and shelter and no one really cares.. (well... i guess we execute them with snapping torture devices) but human's just CAN NOT.

Have you ever had your home broken into and had your personal belongings you worked really hard to earn shopped like it's an episode of Supermarket Sweep by someone who simply decided they deserved it?

I have. It sucks.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Agree DW, but sounds like he has a pretty clear cut case of autism spectrum. I sure would like to see the courts go easy on him (I haven't finished the article yet, half way through...so don't go spoiling it for me.)

[DoWork]

Agree DW, but sounds like he has a pretty clear cut case of autism spectrum. I sure would like to see the courts go easy on him

Yeah I don't want to see the guy get the chair or anything, but it really sucks when people help themselves to your hard earned shit.

Whether or not he thought he needed it, it's wrong to steal... Moreso 1000+ times!

In any case I hope he gets the help he needs. He clearly showed remorse.

[gpcharles]

Have you ever had your home broken into and had your personal belongings you worked really hard to earn shopped like it's an episode of Supermarket Sweep by someone who simply decided they deserved it?

I have. It sucks.

yeah, i have too. i wasn't condoning his actions btw... just thinking about how interesting it is to compare how hard we go on humans vs critters. esp since the guy was stealing subsistence stuff... and not so-called "valuables."

it's also interesting to compare his stealing of substince items to folks keeping up a certain lifestyle off welfare and not working... both are taking from others to survive... one is legal one isn't.

just really really interesting stuff in that article for outdoorsy folks to ponder!

[NoPostholio]

I frankly have a hard time wrapping my head around 27 winters in that spot where 5? months a year he stayed put - I could imagine that getting pretty grim as was described.

[strawjack]

Since Jay is involved
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What are you saying? They'll admit to how they gladed the shit out of their hill. Nobody will want to hear the truth behind how that happened. And it's all fine now...

[BigDaddy]

I frankly have a hard time wrapping my head around 27 winters in that spot where 5? months a year he stayed put - I could imagine that getting pretty grim as was described.

Seriously... but I guess he read quite a bit. He is clearly not the same as most of us, NTTAWWT, (except for the stealing part). He's kind of a wounded bird who had to go back to the womb. And he survived just to survive. So fascinating on so many levels... I'm sure he will become a text book psych case.


And I love his response to the Thoreau comparison and summary of his two years... dilettante. I could not agree more. Thoreau may have lived in a cabin at night, but he went into town, ate at friends homes, and basically enjoyed normal life, except for sleeping in a cabin at night. BFD. Dude had a great publicist.

Thanks for posting Mr. M.... great read (while in my isolated cabin in VT).

[robrox]

....
Do you guys have a big box alder problem up there? We are thick with it down here. Ugh. Like rats! Good thing it at least cuts like warm butter.

So far? Nope. Plenty of hobble and striped maple down low.

[robrox]

What are you saying? They'll admit to how they gladed the shit out of their hill. Nobody will want to hear the truth behind how that happened. And it's all fine now...

The regen program is also working. It's not just cutting.

Sure, the Work Day program was partly about managing the cutters, some of whom were starting to create erosion damage. Then, there was that ice storm that did more damage than all the previous cuttings.