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[TahoeJ]

Snap hooks + blocked shots to the right = bad alignment... most of the time, anyway. You probably need to open up your stance.

[skiballs]

The boy is trouble

[DasBlunt]

I love playing in the rain.

Awesome weather today. Smelling the Pacific in Colorado is rad. Lots of old trees and rain reminds me of SF a little.


Super fun.

[stfu&gbtw]

Went and played 9 in the rain last night. Drove really consistently. Hit all the fairways right around 285 or so. Course was soaked. Also hit my irons really well, but for a number of reasons, didn't leave myself any really short putts, and had a tough time scoring on the soaking wet, goose shit cover greens. Couldn't see a couple of pin placements that I missed, mis-clubbed myself a couple of times and ended up on the wrong side of the green. Also pushed two shots to the far right side of the green. But I hit the all the greens for 1 under par and then destroyed myself trying to putt from 40' all the time.. Did sink a couple of 10 footers I left myself, but ended up 3-putting a lot and shot a 6 over 42. Had the greens been in any kind of shape, it would have been a little better, but I need to be able to get closer... Need a few one-putts in there if I'm going to post any real scores. But I can see par... It's right there...

[4matic]

I hit the ball long compared to 95% of the people I play with and my carry distance is about 215-220:

http://www.popeofslope.com/downloads...difference.pdf

One of the most telling numbers was how dramatically the amateur players in-flated their driving distances. The lower handicappers claimed their average drives went 247 yards, while driving-distance stats taken on two holes documented an average of 232—a 15-yard exaggeration. Poorer players claimed a driving average of 227 yards and, in actuality, hit it 198 yards—a 29-yard lie of the mind. Many conclusions can be drawn from this data, but the hard lesson on this as-pect: The worse the players, the more they kid themselves about how good (and long) they are. Nobody, it seems, wants to admit he drives the ball less than 200 yards. Suc-cumbing to self-delusion, it seems most amateurs tend to equate their best drive with their average drive

[skiballs]

^yup, and actually applying the rules correctly and counting all the 3'ers they miss.
Jim Furyk flies his driver about 255yds and is a motherfucking cash machine.

[4matic]

^yup, and actually applying the rules correctly and counting all the 3'ers they miss.
Jim Furyk flies his driver about 255yds and is a motherfucking cash machine.

There's a web.com event at the local TPC and they can't play the back tees on one hole because the carry distance at 225 is longer than maximum allowable for their tour.

[stfu&gbtw]

Long driving is one of the benefits of playing at altitude! A 285 yard drive at 5,000' above sea level is probably good for 245-250 or so at sea level. And 250 to a stopping point is probably only 225 on the fly. I hit one 362 once. From an elevated tee, down hill, down wind, in Breckenridge.

Re: applying the rules correctly. If you're not going to keep score - don't keep score. Obviously, you can't go back to the tee when you lose your ball, but you can take your penalty.

There's one par 5 at this course that plays 385 from the whites. In Denver, that's a driver and a wedge. If I were actually a good golfer, that hole would be a lock for birdie, and a regular eagle. But I'm not, and it's a lock for par and a regular birdie. To be a pro, you need to be able to make any shot from anywhere.. But being good would mean consistently not dropping shots on a hole like that.

[Gcooker]

Wow, lots of guys bunt it. I drive the ball 260 on average with usually 1 or 2 over 300 depending on the course conditions... and I'm at sea level. I can't putt worth a shit and my short iron (less than full swings) game needs work. Probably why I blow up rounds so easily.

[TahoeJ]

I play at sea level and probably average around 260 - 265 (remember you only count distance on drives in the fairway). If there's a bunker that's 230 to carry I will go for it, but 240 not worth the risk. Anyway, it is amazing what a difference altitude can make. When I play up in Tahoe I average more like 290 - 300. Coming back down to sea level after that is such a buzzkill.

But yeah, people WAY overestimate their driving distances. I've played with people who say they usually hit it about 275 off the tee and I end up out-driving them a good 20-30 yards on every hole. So I guess I must average 300+ right?

[spook]

Making matters worse is that Furyk, who has 16 PGA Tour wins and is a virtual certainty for a ninth straight U.S. Ryder Cup team, has had numerous close calls in his career and has now had seven straight 54-hole leads in which he failed to convert. He has 28 runner-up finishes on the PGA Tour, and it doesn't take a math whiz to figure out just how impressive his career record would look had he converted, say, 20 percent of those into victories.

i don't know what my carry distances are. i average about 250 driving all told (including whatever roll i get). i was looking at those stats and some aren't far off my own, including the roll. now i'm back at 9000 feet so we'll see what happens.

[4matic]

[COLOR=#e6e6fa]Furyk has 28 runner-up finishes on the PGA Tour, and it doesn't take a math whiz to figure out just how impressive his career record would look had he converted, say, 20 percent of those into victories.

Nicklaus holds the record for most runner-up finishes in majors with 19.

Nicklaus has 58 PGA tour runner up finishes with his 78 wins.

[4matic]

i average about 250 driving all told (including whatever roll i get).

And you struggle to break 100 on dog track muni? Nonsense.

[spook]

well if i were comparing furyk to mickelson, i'd say furyk is a choker. but thanks for sharing the stat about mickelson that everybody has heard a billion times.

as for my driving, i'm not sure what you're saying is nonsense. i don't play on a dog track muni. i struggle to break 100 at heron lakes, redtail and eastmoreland because of my mind and my short game/putting and because i don't hit 250 down the middle.

[4matic]

i don't hit 250 down the middle.

I can hit it 300 yards every time and miss the fairway. That doesn't count.

[DasBlunt]

I can hit it 300 yards every time and miss the fairway. That doesn't count.

Bubba watson and company would disagree. BOMB AND GOUGE.

[DasBlunt]

Nicklaus holds the record for most runner-up finishes in majors with 19.

Nicklaus has 58 PGA tour runner up finishes with his 78 wins.

Comparing Nicklaus to Furyk is hilarious. But it also shows just how hard the game is to win on tour.

Furyk is not human, by human standards, but as a PGA golfer, he is better than average….that is it, just above average….nuts!

[spook]

I can hit it 300 yards every time and miss the fairway. That doesn't count.

it does if you're measuring distances. unless i hit a bad slice it usually travels about 250 yards.

[spook]

Bubba watson and company would disagree. BOMB AND GOUGE.

that has been one of the things that has improved for me a lot. i don't worry about my tee shot being perfect anymore because i've gotten a lot better at getting myself out of trouble. it doesn't help my score right now, but it does help my psyche not getting down on every imperfect shot i hit. obviously, i'd rather hit it straight, but if the pros only average 70% or something FIR, i can't be too upset if i hit 50% FIR.

[philth]

Took a week off. Playing today. I hope the break will settle things down. Thought about golf every day. Cant believe what a golf junkie i have become. Mtn bikes or WW kayaks have not seen love in months.

[DasBlunt]

that has been one of the things that has improved for me a lot. i don't worry about my tee shot being perfect anymore because i've gotten a lot better at getting myself out of trouble. it doesn't help my score right now, but it does help my psyche not getting down on every imperfect shot i hit. obviously, i'd rather hit it straight, but if the pros only average 70% or something FIR, i can't be too upset if i hit 50% FIR.

Rory only had two swing thoughts during the Open.

Process ( don't worry about the result), and spot (putting).

Bomb it.

edit, I should add, that I play lots of really tough links courses (not tree lined, no adjoining fairways), so if you hit it gone, it is Gonorrhea….bomb and gouge does not work at all. Trusting the driver and letting it go feels great, but one bad one gonorrhea on these courses is stressful to say the least.

[4matic]

i can't be too upset if i hit 50% FIR.

A player that averages 95 hits 21% of FIR and 0% GIR. More delusion.

[4matic]

edit, I should add, that I play lots of really tough links courses (not tree lined, no adjoining fairways), so if you hit it gone, it is Gonorrhea….bomb and gouge does not work at all. Trusting the driver and letting it go feels great, but one bad one gonorrhea on these courses is stressful to say the least.

Which is why Bubba sucks at US Open and British.

[spook]

Rory only had two swing thoughts during the Open.

Process ( don't worry about the result), and spot (putting).

Bomb it.

edit, I should add, that I play lots of really tough links courses (not tree lined, no adjoining fairways), so if you hit it gone, it is Gonorrhea….bomb and gouge does not work at all. Trusting the driver and letting it go feels great, but one bad one gonorrhea on these courses is stressful to say the least.

yeah, at the course i'm going to play here the rough is basically gone. i've been replaying the holes in my head over the past couple weeks and thinking about how many times i tried to use driver when i should have used a 3hybrid or something. i'm excited but we're heading for the coast for a week so i have to wait another week.

[spook]

A player that averages 95 hits 21% of FIR and 0% GIR. More delusion.

it's not more delusion, dumbass. i didn't say i hit 50% FIR, i said i couldn't be upset if i hit 50% FIR and i've seen plenty of golfers pissed every time they miss the fairway. the whole point is that i don't get upset if i don't hit the fairway regardless of how far i hit it or where it goes out as long as i can get to the ball.

you're so bitter for a guy who has it all. i like that.