Knuckledraggers sue Alta

[Paddyo]

Same comments/arguments on this thread can be found on the KKK website.


David Quinney, a minority owner of Alta, told the Associated Press that customers prefer to have the mountain kept for skiers only.

Quinney said the clash that separated skiers and snowboarders in the 1990s is a matter of safety, not style.

“I’m a skier (white), always have been (white),” he said. “There are skiers (whites) out there that appreciate going to a place that allows skiers (whites) only, not (blacks or jews) snowboarders.”

[My Pet Powder Goat]

What all you snowboarders don't Seem to understand (since u keep repeating it) is that comparing your plight to that of the civil rights movement and what oppressed minorities have gone through only serves to make you all look like a bunch of petulant, whinny bitches, too fucking classless and stupid to even understand how insulting the comparison is.

[spook]

What all you snowboarders don't Seem to understand is that basing your argument on e comparison of what the civil rights and oppressed minorities went thru only serves to make make you look like a bunch of petulant, whinny bitches, so fucking classless and stupid to even understand how insulting the comparison is.

such an angry lad

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Fuk u!!!!!

(Not really that angry, but had to use extra exclamation points to get enough characters to post)

[iceman]

(Not really that angry, but had to use extra exclamation points to get enough characters to post)

well not after you added all that

[Bromontana]

What all you snowboarders don't Seem to understand (since u keep repeating it) is that comparing your plight to that of the civil rights movement and what oppressed minorities have gone through only serves to make you all look like a bunch of petulant, whinny bitches, too fucking classless and stupid to even understand how insulting the comparison is.

Erm, I thought skiers brought up-then proceeded to beat like a dead horse -the protected class argument?

The skiers here seem to believe that since this is dramatically less harmful discrimination than civil rights abuses of the 20th century, we should simply accept it and be glad the bird allows access. The snowboarders say fuck you it's my land too.

[TBS]

No douchebag, it's not Your Land. The land is owned by the United States Government, with proceeds from its use going to the US Treasury. Despite what Teh TeaTards may tell you, the general public does not have an encumbered right to use a given parcel of federal land - USFS, BLM & NPS decide who, when and under what conditions someone can use their land. Just like you don't have the right to direct the activities of any government official.

Question for the legal mags - Is whiny, self-entitled douchebag a protected class under Federal law? Because that's the only theory I can come up with to support plaintiffs claim...

[spook]

whiny, self-entitled douchebag

it's like you're sitting in front of a mirror, brushing your long blonde hair, ranting about the girl at school who is cuter and more popular, and you don't even realize you're everything you hate about her.

[coldfeet]

AFAIK special use permits and commercial permits for National Forest or BLM land often include the ability to control who can access the land. Examples would include mining claims and logging areas that are posted no trespassing, shooting ranges and the like, and presumably ski areas.

I tried to hike my local little ski hill (on NF land) after the base area melted out, and they kicked me out. They were still "operating" because they spin the lift for tourist rides. I imagine they kicked me out for insurance paranoia reasons. Is this legal? Possibly not. Would it be hard for me to fight this? Absolutely, especially since they were "operating." See all the arguments about which areas allow uphill traffic. The terms of permits allow areas a lot of free rein in making rules about what can happen on the land. Once you accept that, it's not just about unrestricted access to public land, and you have to go back to the idea that regulating snowboarding vs. skiing is discriminatory, and then we get back into this protected class argument which is a non-starter.

[Slaag Master]

as time passes it becomes very clear that this thread is less about any sport and where to engage in said sport and more about an ignorant, fearful crowd where sack a lackin!!!!!

[My Pet Powder Goat]

it's like you're sitting in front of a mirror, brushing your long blonde hair, ranting about the girl at school who is cuter and more popular, and you don't even realize you're everything you hate about her.

Tits or Gtfo.

[Slaag Master]

p.s. "the government" manages land held in trust for we the fuckin peeple!!!!!! any day now i spect the alta haters to loose the dogs, turn on the fire hoses, and watch in horror as the big meat satisfy their bitches!!!!!!!

[wilcox510]

This has all been said before, but I just don't understand why people dont understand it so I'll say it again. Alta isn't discriminating against anyone. Anyone is welcome to go ski at Alta (as long as you pay for a lift ticket etc), you just can't snowboard there. Not allowing snowboards is not discrimination against anyone. Black people were discriminated against when they were forced to ride in the back of the bus and drink from a separate water fountain. Women were discriminated against when they were not allowed to vote. Saying some people are discriminated against because they are allowed to go ski at Alta like everyone else, but just can't use there snowboards there, is ridiculous. Yes, I am aware it is federal land. No, I am not anti snowboarding. I ski at Alta, and I really don't care if they allow snowboarding or not. I just think the discrimination argument is ridiculous.

[Slaag Master]

NEWS FLASH!!!!! boarder revolt at halta captured on film!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://fullmovies.cc/movie/64189

[TBS]

Tits or Gtfo.

For spook, I'd settle for GTFO

[Bromontana]

No douchebag, it's not Your Land. The land is owned by the United States Government, with proceeds from its use going to the US Treasury. Despite what Teh TeaTards may tell you, the general public does not have an encumbered right to use a given parcel of federal land - USFS, BLM & NPS decide who, when and under what conditions someone can use their land.

what the USFS tells Alta: "the lands and waters covered by this permit shall remain open to the public for all lawful purposes."

Snowboarding and skiing are interchangeable activities that do not compete with one another and are permitted on USFS land. What is the rational basis for excluding a use accepted by 99.5% of the industry and the WCNF?

[Lonnie]

What is the rational basis for excluding a use accepted by 99.5% of the industry and the WCNF?

Alta's business model and marketing.

Again the land IS open to boarders. More than one boarder had made the trek out baldy, come thru the high keyhole gate, boarded down Peruvian Gultch, and hopped the bus back to the bird. Or Hiked up Patsy Marley and boarded down thru Albion Basin.

It's the lifts that Alta controls. This isn't a difficult concept.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Alta's business model and marketing.

Again the land IS open to boarders. More than one boarder had made the trek out baldy, come thru the high keyhole gate, boarded down Peruvian Gultch, and hopped the bus back to the bird. Or Hiked up Patsy Marley and boarded down thru Albion Basin.

It's the lifts that Alta controls. This isn't a difficult concept.

It seems to be for some snowboarders, maybe people are right about them.

[Bromontana]

Again the land IS open to boarders.

I don't think that's accurate. The season ender last year is an example.

[TBS]

what the USFS tells Alta: "the lands and waters covered by this permit shall remain open to the public for all lawful purposes."

Snowboarding and skiing are interchangeable activities that do not compete with one another and are permitted on USFS land. What is the rational basis for excluding a use accepted by 99.5% of the industry and the WCNF?

Are you that fucking dense? Use of the land and snow is not restricted. The use of Alta's lifts is.

Please get yourself neutered before you reproduce.

[TBS]

I don't think

Fixed it for ya

[Generalstark]

I don't think that's accurate. The season ender last year is an example.

What about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ImOOS29CGM

[Bromontana]

Use of the land and snow is not restricted

- No uphill traffic, except at night
- No boarder access allowed from mid/upper mountain gates

Use of the land and snow is heavily restricted when it comes to snowboards. To the point where you could argue it's an effective ban on access, not just lifts. You can also argue the fear-mongering among skiers is based on anecdotes and stereotypes rather than statistical review of the disciplines.

While saying it's a lift-only ban is a cute way to package your argument, it's not accurate.

[irul&ublo]

No douchebag, it's not Your Land. The land is owned by the United States Government, with proceeds from its use going to the US Treasury. Despite what Teh TeaTards may tell you, the general public does not have an encumbered right to use a given parcel of federal land - USFS, BLM & NPS decide who, when and under what conditions someone can use their land. Just like you don't have the right to direct the activities of any government official.

Question for the legal mags - Is whiny, self-entitled douchebag a protected class under Federal law? Because that's the only theory I can come up with to support plaintiffs claim...

You do not have to be a member of a "protected class" to bring an equal protection claim.

[ski_adk]

I really don't understand why knuckledraggers have such a strong need to ride Alta lifts. They've invaded 99.9% of all other resorts out there...but that's apparently not good enough for them. For some reason, they won't be happy until there's a 100% infection rate for all resorts. Why is that so damned important?