Lucky #7 EC Roll Call 2013-14!

[Vt-Freeheel]

I just found this thing on the street. Must be from like 92? It's got kind of a fun shape. Maybe 140cm?

Anyone have a kid or sis or feeling nostalgic?

Could be a nice ride with bindings. :fm

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Bindings would be key, otherwise it would be just another kid on a lunchtray.

30.1 bob calm, could hear the guns going when I got up.

[krp8128]

Good swill but shits overpriced.
...and for what they charge, jon and Jenn or whoever, you'd think they could follow the laws of the state they chose to run their business out of.

I think they chuckle every time they make a deposit.

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[ex-powderbroker]

Meh, I've had a lot of fun on lunchtrays. And I also remember taking the trucks off of my skateboard each fall to powsurf the local golf course on deep days. Good stuff.

Anyway, I'll hold onto the board for a few days if someone wants it, otherwise it's going to Staten Island or Jersey in a contractors sack.

[t-the-east]

Make a bench out of it...

[mtnbiker/boarder]

Good swill but shits overpriced.
...and for what they charge, jon and Jenn or whoever, you'd think they could follow the laws of the state they chose to run their business out of.

I think they chuckle every time they make a deposit.

Do you ever say anything positive....ahh shit why bother....never mind.............................................. .............................


Would LOVE to get my hands on a six or more....even pay alittle extra to get it to PA haha MOUGHOUL HELP

ML242... sweet looking ride ..if nobody takes it from you I will.......

[neufox47]

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Heard they were dumping way more water / brewing waste down the drain than they were licensed / allowed to.

Regulations can be a bitch some times. What is the price a can these days?

Hill Farmstead prices have been rising like a rocket, but people keep buying it so I can't blame them. Lots of $15 750ml bottles there now. $16 2L growlers, $10 750 growlers...

[JerseyDave]

Good news, mri came back clean other than a cyst near/touching the ACL, so that may be causing the discomfort. Going to take it elsewhere for a second look to be careful but overall pretty pumped.

The Cyst is a very strong indicator of maniscus damage. Just got scoped 2 eeks ago to drain one and get half my maniscus removed. Likely some maniscus damage in your knee. Also, MRIs are NOT the "case closed" diagnosis. My experience has been tht the MRI can confirm diagnosis based on other symptoms, but can also mislead. They don't know until they scope. Personally, I woud recomend scopeing as soon as possble after knee injuries. You will know 100 percent what's up, cleaning up minor damage can reduce symptoms dramatically, and recovey for a fit person is almost nil. Jiu Jistsu today, 13 days after somewhat significant scopeage. Also, knee damage starting so young for you....advice from a 40 yo....smooth, smooth, smooth. Get smooth. The clock is ticking on that limb.

[robrox]

Sure wish they made heady in 1/2 pint cans.... at that size it would be on nearly every of my winter tours. As it is, I can just manage a pint on a hot summer's day of brush cutting.

Lawsons's in a can? Competition can be a wonderful thing.

[DoWork]

I just found this thing on the street. Must be from like 92? It's got kind of a fun shape. Maybe 140cm?

Anyone have a kid or sis or feeling nostalgic?

Could be a nice ride with bindings. :fm

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Can I put it on the wall at Magic? I think that thing may have been developed there... Before Stratton bought Burton's history of course.

[DoWork]

The Cyst is a very strong indicator of maniscus damage. Just got scoped 2 eeks ago to drain one and get half my maniscus removed. Likely some maniscus damage in your knee. Also, MRIs are NOT the "case closed" diagnosis. My experience has been tht the MRI can confirm diagnosis based on other symptoms, but can also mislead. They don't know until they scope. Personally, I woud recomend scopeing as soon as possble after knee injuries. You will know 100 percent what's up, cleaning up minor damage can reduce symptoms dramatically, and recovey for a fit person is almost nil. Jiu Jistsu today, 13 days after somewhat significant scopeage. Also, knee damage starting so young for you....advice from a 40 yo....smooth, smooth, smooth. Get smooth. The clock is ticking on that limb.

Damn, that's cool to hear man glad your recovery went so smoothly!

[robrox]

The Cyst is a very strong indicator of maniscus damage. Just got scoped 2 eeks ago to drain one and get half my maniscus removed. Likely some maniscus damage in your knee. Also, MRIs are NOT the "case closed" diagnosis. My experience has been tht the MRI can confirm diagnosis based on other symptoms, but can also mislead. They don't know until they scope. Personally, I woud recomend scopeing as soon as possble after knee injuries. You will know 100 percent what's up, cleaning up minor damage can reduce symptoms dramatically, and recovey for a fit person is almost nil. Jiu Jistsu today, 13 days after somewhat significant scopeage. Also, knee damage starting so young for you....advice from a 40 yo....smooth, smooth, smooth. Get smooth. The clock is ticking on that limb.

Spelling aside, that's pretty straight talk; well worth serious thought.

Arthroscopic meniscus repairs usually mean removals of rough edges and tears, only the scolastic age players see benefit of suturing tears.

The trouble with partial removals is that they initiate a series of later partial removals to even things out. 10-15 years is the usual duration of the first one for recreationalists, but subsequent "repairs" are increasingly frequent. Competetive Pro/Am/Coll athletes usually need repairs more frequently after that first one.

The result of all of that messing about in the knee is osteoarthritis...every time! Do not decieve yourself. TKR will be in the future of anyone having that first menisectomy..that is, if they push themselves and even if they do so smoothly.

Okay, that's the bad news. In between all the surgeries the athlete will be able to pursue their passion and mostly without NSAIDs.

My case is typical in terms of the knee surgeries, 1977 injury, full zipper surgery '78 and '79 were my best seasons and all the way to '88 I had very satisfactory results in my chosen pain-sport. That end point was by forced retirement, under a Chevvy the hard way...knees were working well, the new injuries did my career in.

After a three year recovery, I resumed an active recreational life, climbing/skiing/cycling. The knee required medical intervention (injections or repairs) several times and then a decade of Osteoarthritis suffering...microfracture surgery helped, but knee pain was a constant and it got worse. Then seeing Billie Jean King's story about her TKR got me going. After three excruciatingly painful months of recovery, the next three years have been rather fine..so fine I have replaced a bunch of my old climbing gear.

Surgery will start the cycle. Decide based on facts. The Docs will be constrained by ethics to tell you some of the above, but they will also want to make their living.

Think about it and then go with your decision in the most knowledgeable and intentional way you can.

[Timberridge]

Can I put it on the burned down wall at Snow Valley? I think that thing may have been developed there... Before Stratton bought Burton's history of course.

FIFY.

And Stratton has now had its history bought by Vail.

[gpcharles]

Also, knee damage starting so young for you....advice from a 40 yo....smooth, smooth, smooth. Get smooth. The clock is ticking on that limb.

THIS.

not that i know how you ski EOBust, but alot of young guys and gals i know are suffering knee damage early from tail gunning, and skiing rough with poor form... get balanced, and ski smooth. that's the best solution for knee pain.

but of course sometimes you just gotta have fun too

[I've seen black diamonds!]

THIS.

not that i know how you ski EOBust, but alot of young guys and gals i know are suffering knee damage early from tail gunning, and skiing rough with poor form... get balanced, and ski smooth. that's the best solution for knee pain.

but of course sometimes you just gotta have fun too

This is a big reason I prefer touring to riding lifts. I'm approaching 40. I'm lucky to have gumby knees and ankles, but I coach high school wrestling and my body doesn't recover the way it did 10 years ago. I'm inevitably banged up for a significant portion of the ski season. I find day of touring is often a lot more conducive to nursing an injury than a day riding lifts because the number and intensity of impacts is less.

[Moeghoul]

Do you ever say anything positive....ahh shit why bother....never mind.............................................. .............................


Would LOVE to get my hands on a six or more....even pay alittle extra to get it to PA haha MOUGHOUL HELP

I picked up 2 cases the week before they stopped retailing out of the cannery to stock up for the season. I'll check Jericho Country store when I head back and see if they have a 4 pack for ya. I think they limit it to 1 4pk per customer.

[neufox47]

Knees are for stability, if your body is out of sorts and you are trying to use knees for mobility, you are going to fuck them up. If you have knee issues that keep occurring, you probably have ankle or hip mobility issues. I was having some early season issues and the guys at MBSC found that my hip internal rotation was down to about 10 degrees, it should be around 30.

As said ^^ poor form will also cause you to use your knees for mobility during a turn.

[mtnbiker/boarder]

I picked up 2 cases the week before they stopped retailing out of the cannery to stock up for the season. I'll check Jericho Country store when I head back and see if they have a 4 pack for ya. I think they limit it to 1 4pk per customer.

you are them man thanks....

[strawjack]

I just found this thing on the street. Must be from like 92? It's got kind of a fun shape. Maybe 140cm?

Anyone have a kid or sis or feeling nostalgic?

Could be a nice ride with bindings. :fm

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I think its a '91. What do you want for it?

[strawjack]

Knees are for stability, if your body is out of sorts and you are trying to use knees for mobility, you are going to fuck them up. If you have knee issues that keep occurring, you probably have ankle or hip mobility issues. I was having some early season issues and the guys at MBSC found that my hip internal rotation was down to about 10 degrees, it should be around 30.

As said ^^ poor form will also cause you to use your knees for mobility during a turn.

or...I'm just old and broken

[FussyDutchman]

Heard they were dumping way more water / brewing waste down the drain than they were licensed / allowed to.

Regulations can be a bitch some times. What is the price a can these days?

Hill Farmstead prices have been rising like a rocket, but people keep buying it so I can't blame them. Lots of $15 750ml bottles there now. $16 2L growlers, $10 750 growlers...

The wastewater numbers I have seen reported vary widely but per the interview I saw John "said" that was not part of the decision but did admit they were slightly over the allowable levels for the property. Do I claim to know him well, absolutely not, but from my casual conversations with both he and Jen over the years I have no reason to believe he is being anything but upfront and honest about the situation. Can prices at local watering holes up here run from anywhere to $5 on the cheap side to around $7 for most places in the BTV area with retail for a 4 pack still at $12.99 for most with a few trying to gouge you for an extra $2. I have noticed a much larger supply at all the local outlets in the last few weeks and one local store owner to me told me he is getting approx. 25% more each week with deliveries coming in 2x per week as opposed to the typical one day before the retail shop shut down.

EOB - Don't know where you went for your mri but if you are looking for another opinion I can let you know where I went for my mcl (very local for you), I am quite happy with the way they have handled my situation...pm me for detail if interested.

DaveVT - Sounds like a man with a lot of experience with knee issues and glad to hear it went so well. I can confirm that my ortho said the same thing about scoping if there is any question about meniscus damage, no way to know for sure from an mri what the full extent is until you get in there. Even worse, unlike an mcl, meniscus damage has no way of repairing itself, it will only get worse without proper repair. Quite luckily and surprisingly, he did not think I had any meniscus damage based on the mri and where I had pain...hopefully, his assessment was on target and I will not have any lingering issues.

Robrox - Would love to see Lawson's expand and do some canning but don't count on it, not his philosophy or ambition from what I seen/read. Something about the name Sean/Shaun and brewing prowess I guess.

[Peruvian]

It looks like I'll be in BTV on Sun/Mon. I figure since I'll be at VT Homebrew Supply getting ingredients for a Scottish Ale, a walk across the lot to the Bevvy Whorehouse from some HT, Lawsons, etc. is called for.

[robrox]

Knees are for stability, if your body is out of sorts and you are trying to use knees for mobility, you are going to fuck them up. If you have knee issues that keep occurring, you probably have ankle or hip mobility issues. I was having some early season issues and the guys at MBSC found that my hip internal rotation was down to about 10 degrees, it should be around 30.

As said ^^ poor form will also cause you to use your knees for mobility during a turn.

Both true!

Can't add anything to the core of either point.

[east or bust]

Wow, thank you all for the community response. Very helpful information. Regardless of what this doctor has to say about the mri I definitely want another look from someone.

Interesting stuff about the possible correlation to meniscus damage and cysts Dave, if you hadn't said anything I would have never even thought about it. Will definitely bring that up when I go in.

The current state of the knee is puzzling to me. It first began to get noticeably painful (mostly dull pain, sometimes sharp) over the summer. Before then it was only slightly discomforting for at most a month and half, and I stopped skiing the first week in April. It has never physically limited me and that's why I waited so long for the mri (stupid on my part). It has never actually bothered me while doing anything physically actually, hockey, biking, hiking, short distance runs; sometimes a bit of pain a day or two after. The worst is extended periods of sitting, then it will hurt afterwards (full extension and full crouch). Also still haven't been on skis yet this season, so I don't know how it will feel on the slopes.

I really have no clue, but enough, I don't want to cunt this thread up with too much injury talk. I have some reading to do in the gimp section.

[Flounder]

a walk across the lot to the Bevvy Whorehouse from some HT, Lawsons, etc. is called for.

At least it's a short walk an you won't waste much time. The window to get Lawson's is about 90 minutes Friday afternoon. Not sure about HT with the upped distribution but that used to be a window of a couple of hours Wednesday afternoon.

[Bottleman]

Nice Alpine Zone style skiing at Okemo today. Always impressed by the quality of snow and grooming early season.

No pics of sweet carves but instead a question. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DEAL WITH THE STUPID MAGIC CARPET LIKE AUTOMATED LOADING AND UNLOADING ZONES? Might the dumbest, least sensible "advance" in the history of skiing. I fucking hate them.

There, I feel better now.