Who is cutting wood?

[buttahflake]

I'll bet that shit's dry!

drier than your wife's pussy?
she had to spit on my cock multiple times.
what gives?

[From_the_NEK]

Finished my 4 cords of wood up a couple weeks ago. Mix of yellow birch, maple, tamarack, cherry, and ash. I cut and split all of my own wood. Having direct access to 45 acres of forest is helpful. I can't even burn just the stuff that dies/falls down every year.

[Beaver]

I'm cutting wood again this fall. Dry larch/fir mix runs $225-$250 a cord split & delivered around here. I put my 4+ cords in the shed. I've found a nice little stash of standing dead larch that I'm mining at half a cord per day (my 2012 Tacoma will hold 1/2 a cord stacked to the roof top) It takes about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to drive fall, buck split, load, drive home and unload. I sold a couple loads but then decided it was way too much work for the money so now I'm getting next years wood. I found a couple larch that were fire killed about 60 years ago standing dead. I got 2 cords out of one of them, they make the best firewood ever (around here). They're almost petrified and even though they're 3' across at the base they split super easy.

[Beaver]

I haven't dropped a knee in nearly ten years.

So you admit you used to suck cock.

[freeheelwilly]

70 a cord of hardwood, split and delivered? Jesus fuck.

I'm beginning to wonder whether we're talking apples to apples here. When I say a "cord" I actually mean a face cord (which is 1/3 of a cord). That's the nomenclature in these parts. it's understood when someone says a cord that we're talking a face cord (16"x4'x8'). So that's $210 for a full cord of dry hardwood, split and delivered.

[Beaver]

That makes more sense. Around here we consider a cord to be 4' x 4' x 8' split & stacked tight.

[freeheelwilly]

That makes more sense. Around here we consider a cord to be 4' x 4' x 8' split & stacked tight.

Yep. But you're still payin' more for softwood than I do for hardwood.

[glademaster]

Softwood burns just fine if it's properly seasoned, and it seasons significantly faster than most hardwoods.

At least here in Utah, hardwoods are obscenely expensive. Oak, walnut, etc run $500-700 a 128 cubic foot cord (the only cord) split and delivered.

For that sort of money, I'll feed the stove more often with Lodgepole.

[freeheelwilly]

Softwood burns just fine if it's properly seasoned, and it seasons significantly faster than most hardwoods.

At least here in Utah, hardwoods are obscenely expensive. Oak, walnut, etc run $500-700 a 128 cubic foot cord (the only cord) split and delivered.

For that sort of money, I'll feed the stove more often with Lodgepole.

Dude you get about half the BTUs from lodgepole as you do oak. Sure "it burns just fine". So does a cardboard box. If you're paying a little more than I am but you're getting lodgepole pine and I'm getting oak and sugar maple.....well.....you do the math.


I gotta say - if it were me, I'd spring for the hardwood. Out there, BTU/$ is probably about the same and you can just stuff the stove and forget about it.

[From_the_NEK]

I'm cutting wood again this fall. Dry larch/fir mix runs $225-$250 a cord split & delivered around here. I put my 4+ cords in the shed. I've found a nice little stash of standing dead larch that I'm mining at half a cord per day (my 2012 Tacoma will hold 1/2 a cord stacked to the roof top) It takes about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to drive fall, buck split, load, drive home and unload. I sold a couple loads but then decided it was way too much work for the money so now I'm getting next years wood. I found a couple larch that were fire killed about 60 years ago standing dead. I got 2 cords out of one of them, they make the best firewood ever (around here). They're almost petrified and even though they're 3' across at the base they split super easy.

I've been burning a lot of larch/tamarack here in VT. I built my house right next to a grove of dead/dying tamarack and it makes good firewood. It has roughly the same BTUs as Cherry.
Oh, and I have a bunch of beech in the woodshed too.

[glademaster]

BTU's per pound of wood are nearly identical between hard and soft woods. It's just that Lodgepole weighs much less per volume than hardwood.

The differences in heat generation are somewhat mitigated by new, highly efficient woodstoves. My model with a secondary burn generates most of it's heat burning smoke and gas released by the wood as it smolders. The high quantity of volatiles in pine makes them burn quite hot and slower than one might expect in a new EPA stove.

I do burn a mix of soft and hardwood. For this winter I'll have 4 or 5 cords of Lodgepole and Pinion mix, 1 cord of Silver Maple and I'm still tracking down a cord of true hardwood, trying to find some oak or apple for those overnight burns.

[freeheelwilly]

BTU's per pound of wood are nearly identical between hard and soft woods.
The differences in heat generation are somewhat mitigated by new, highly efficient woodstoves. My model with a secondary burn generates most of it's heat burning smoke and gas released by the wood as it smolders. The high quantity of volatiles in pine makes them burn quite hot and slower than one might expect in a new EPA stove.

I do burn a mix of soft and hardwood. For this winter I'll have 4 or 5 cords of Lodgepole and Pinion mix, 1 cord of Silver Maple and I'm still tracking down a cord of true hardwood, trying to find some oak or apple for those overnight burns.

Cool. Catalytic?

It's just that Lodgepole weighs much less per volume than hardwood

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Yeah but....a cord is a measure of volume so....you're just stating the same thing. Anyway, stay warm. Your snow is better than mine.

[glademaster]

Nope, non catalytic. Just a secondary burn stove. Englander 30-NC. The secondary burn occurs in the top of the stove. Pretty cool to get the box loaded and going, damper the primary air down enough to cut out all the flames coming off the actual logs, and then see the top of the firebox blazing as the smoke and gas being released from the smoldering wood burns.

Claims less than 2 grams/hour particulate emissions, without the expense of having to replace a catalyst.

Yes, there is less heat in a cord of lodgepole than a cord of oak for sure, but the difference isn't as drastic as it used to be with less efficient stoves, it certainly isn't pronounced enough to justify spending 3x the money per cord for hardwood. I am definitely a believer in using some though, softwoods just don't coal as well as hardwoods, so it's harder to get a 12 hour burn time out of them. I'm pretty confident I'll stay cozy with a 3.5 cubic foot firebox in a 1300 square foot cabin.

[DougW]

I burn hardwood, aspen which depending on the piece can when dry be so light that you wonder why gravity has any effect on it. Really burn a 50 -50 mix of pine and aspen so don't have to worry about creosote, Pine is my good wood along with some spruce. Cottonwood can dry to something dense but good is it hard to split, like trying to split a wet sponge. Once its split and the bark is off its good. This year only put in 1 cord as had 6 left over from the big push to clean up last year and the year before. The wood at the back has been under cover for 3 years. Next year want to fill the other bay of my shed so start of fall with 3 years worth of wood.

[Buster Highmen]

Got 1 cord of dry hemlock split and stacked with a 10'x10'x4' pile of unsplit crappy alder rounds and another huDge pile (10'x15'x6') pile of some kind of dry fir or possibly cedar (it smells something sweet, not sure what it is, but we've got a lot of it and it's in 4'+ diameter rounds that are a bitch to split). Plus another 1/2 cord or so of unsplit Sitka spruce rounds.

I'm going to be busy trying to get another 1 1/2 cords split before October.

[From_the_NEK]

but we've got a lot of it and it's in 4'+ diameter rounds that are a bitch to split).

I have some solid old growth yellow birch rounds that are about 3+' in diameter that I'm saving for next year. The fuckers are HEAVY. I'm going to try to split them when it is really cold.

[~mikey b]

Sitting on 4-5 cords of tamarack from last year plus 2 cords of oak from a tree my neighbor drooped in the spring. Way ahead if the game. Don't really even need to cut this fall, but I'm sure I'll do a few loads for funz.

[glademaster]

Hope you aren't planning to burn that oak until 2015/16.

[The Reverend Floater]

2 cords cut and stacked for the season, another 1.5 in reserve. Damn it feels good to be done already.

[neufox47]

I have some solid old growth yellow birch rounds that are about 3+' in diameter that I'm saving for next year. The fuckers are HEAVY. I'm going to try to split them when it is really cold.

My dad used to get huge oak rounds from construction crews building subdivisions. Looking back it was a crime, wood that nice shoulda been made into a cabinet or furniture or something. My brother and I counted over 300 rings on many logs. But the sound those suckers made when they would pop when it was about 0-20 degrees out. Hydraulic pump straining, the deep sound of wood splintering, then BAM! The log would finally split apart. Amazing to see a 10" long wedge split a 3' log dead down the center.

A cold day, hot cider, and busting your ass when its cold enough that you don't really sweat. Those are some good memories.

[~mikey b]

Nah. I'm getting a couple cords of 2 year old oak from a buddy for this winter. The new stuff has dried quite nicely, though. I bet I could use it next year. It was split immediately upon falling.

[El Chupacabra]

This thread reminded me that it's time to pick up pellets for winter. Just ordered 2 tons; going to pick up tomorrow and do some lifting/stacking...

[Moeghoul]

I've got close to 2 cords stacked in the garage. A cord ran me 275 delivered seasoned and split: maple, oak, birch, ash and some yellow pine mixed in. I had a bit of a moisture issue in my garage which I hope I resolved with some back breaking driveway regrading with a pickaxe and rake and some McGuyvering with the garage door. I've been running a dehumidifier in the garage for a few hours a day on a timer, and that went a long way to keep things dry. The last coupla times we closed up and left I tossed a bug fogger in the garage for good measure. I took down a 40 ft birch to open the mountain view last fall, I'll let that season another year before whacking it up and stacking it.

[~mikey b]

Backyard thinning project gave me another 1/2 cord pine, cedar, fir and sequoia. Apparently the sequoia was really important to my wife and now I'm in trouble...

[Buster Highmen]

One of these years I'll smarten up and buy this shit already split.