the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"

**auvgeek** · 02-10-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by mntlion

try a 2nd power strap about the liner only, (line ski strap?) to bring it closer to your shin
is the rear spoiler in the top of the boot?
is the cuff alignment right? (move the cuff, to the side that hurts, to give it more room on that side)

Will try a 2nd power strap around the liner only. The rear spoiler is in the top of the boot. What exactly do you mean by "move the cuff to the side that hurts?"

Sounds like I just need to make an appointment with my bootfitter. Internet bootfitting only goes so far. Which I guess I knew at the beginning, but figured I'd try to get some advice anyway.

**mntlion** · 02-10-2013, 05:46 PM

upper cuff alignment, or "canting" can be adjusted. play around with that, and see what works best for sking and painfree

**Tutuko** · 02-10-2013, 06:05 PM

Great thread, useful info throughout, thanks. JONG me sideways but a quick question, probably impossible to advise over the Internet but here goes.

Thinnish feet, moderate haglunds deformity, Cochise 130 pro, HV luxury liners. Towards the end of a 1200m skin, developed ankle pain and blister on right foot, alleviated with tape/ mole skin, reminiscent of pain which caused the haglunds (which is at 5 o'clock from straight toward toes on the roundish ankle). The hot spot was at 8 o'clock/ southwest around my ankle, 1" up from the floor.
If it were on the back of my ankle or haglunds it would be a little more normal but it really felt like it was a largely lateral pressure. Any fixes beyond an area punch? Could canting/ over pronation be putting undue pressure on the left side of my right ankle?
Thanks

Edit: largely resolved with ankle taping reducing friction here.

**auvgeek** · 02-10-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by mntlion

upper cuff alignment, or "canting" can be adjusted. play around with that, and see what works best for sking and painfree

Yeah, figured you meant canting (sorry I wasn't obvious in my question). Time to see the bootfitter.

Thanks again for your help, dude. It always amazes me how patient you are trying to fit boots over the interwebz.

**mntlion** · 02-10-2013, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by auvgeek

Yeah, figured you meant canting (sorry I wasn't obvious in my question). Time to see the bootfitter.

Thanks again for your help, dude. It always amazes me how patient you are trying to fit boots over the interwebz.

beer in banff is always welcome

**mntlion** · 02-10-2013, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tutuko

Great thread, useful info throughout, thanks. JONG me sideways but a quick question, probably impossible to advise over the Internet but here goes.

Thinnish feet, moderate haglunds deformity, Cochise 130 pro, HV luxury liners. Towards the end of a 1200m skin, developed ankle pain and blister on right foot, alleviated with tape/ mole skin, reminiscent of pain which caused the haglunds (which is at 5 o'clock from straight toward toes on the roundish ankle). The hot spot was at 8 o'clock/ southwest around my ankle, 1" up from the floor.
If it were on the back of my ankle or haglunds it would be a little more normal but it really felt like it was a largely lateral pressure. Any fixes beyond an area punch? Could canting/ over pronation be putting undue pressure on the left side of my right ankle?
Thanks

footbeds need more support?

Rather then making MORE room with a punch, might be better to make less, but more even room, with adding
a "C" pad around the pressure point to help firm it up

check upper cuff alignment

where you walking up on a cross fallline hill? firmer snow? skis not on a flat surface?

**Tutuko** · 02-10-2013, 07:21 PM

Thanks for the reply, beer, ski partner and couch always open to you in Revy.
Upper cuff alignment is as stock, but that's one thing I want to try out tomorrow on the hill.
Skinning was on firm zig zag tracks through pow, usually pretty even surface.
Tightening up the buckles seemed to add pressure, and loosening added to any movement, but the tecnica buckle arrangement does bugger all for that area.

**mntlion** · 02-10-2013, 07:36 PM

if you make it to banff, stop in and I can check this out in person....

**Tutuko** · 02-10-2013, 10:08 PM

Thanks, will try and sort it out locally ASAP, snow in the forecast

**tsproul** · 02-14-2013, 07:50 PM

Here is my "issue".

Left foot/ski is great. I stand on the ski during right turns. It feels great and I have all the control I want. My weight feels distributed across the entire bottom of my foot. My right foot is a completely different issue. When I stand on the ski to turn left, it feels like my weight is on outside and front of the foot - like I'm pushing my right foot to the right rather than standing up. The other observation I have is that I have much more difficult time carving on the right ski - the tail wants to slide out. The problem isn't huge and is more problematic in variable terrain - especially when there is several inches of soft snow on top of hardpack. When I hit hard pack suddenly while turning left, the right ski tail wants to wash out, throwing me off my planned ski line.

Is this just poor ski technique on my right side or a possible alignment/boot fitting issue?

**mntlion** · 02-14-2013, 09:48 PM

legs the same length?

try a 3-5mm heel lift,
or
a 2-3mm shim on the medial side, under the heel
or try both.

see if that supports you a bit more evenly. If it feels WORSE, remove and try the shim only, on the lateral side...

might be that you just suck too....

**tsproul** · 02-15-2013, 08:14 AM

Will try.

"It's a problem with my equipment, not me.". That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

**tavis** · 02-15-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by tavis

I've looked through this thread, and I apologize if this has been covered before. I'm wearing technica cochise boots that were fit at footloose in Mammoth, so I'm pretty sure i'm in the right size. My big toes get really sore after a long day of skiing. I've been careful to cut my nails as short as I dare (i'm diabetic so I need to be pretty careful with my feet). I keep my lower two buckles as loose as possible (first notch and all the way unscrewed). I've got about 10 days on the stock liners.

Would getting the toes punched out a bit help? Or would the extra room mean I'm more likely to bang my toe harder into the front of the boot. I'm not super aggressive. Never go in the park, don't huck myself off cliffs, etc. The only time i really feel my toe bang is making really hard turns in steep, soft mogels.

Update to this issue. My footbeds were cut a little long and curling up at my big toe. Fitter trimmed the footbeds so they lay flat and suddenly I've got wiggle room at my toes.

**mntlion** · 02-15-2013, 10:04 AM

this is why boot fitting online is hard.

**Chainsaw_Willie** · 02-18-2013, 01:40 PM

New Dynafit Ones. I have the wrong feet for these boots, but there are no other lightweight highly tourable boots made that fit me right, so went with these 'cause it's easier to make a narrow boot wider than a wide boot narrower.

I have wide forefeet and skinny little heels. These boots have been through three rounds of punching at the balls behind the big toes, at the sixth toe area and along the navicular, particularly on my left boot since my left foot is almost 1/2 size bigger than the right. Also had to punch for length on the left boot.

Real close to having these fitting right but two problems remain.

Left boot instep/arch pain. The boot feels like it's squeezing my foot at the front of the arch, just behind the ball of the foot. Can anything be done to the shell in this area? Would further punching on the outside of the foot help relieve pressure on the inside?

Other problem is canting. These boots don't seem to have any canting adjustment and I'm knock-kneed. Is there any way to correct for this? Shims?

**mntlion** · 02-18-2013, 01:59 PM

stretch the boot again as needed.

canting,
1) can you order a cuff alignment kit from dynafit?
2) you have a supportive footbed in the boot ?
3) you can mod the shell, by grinding out the rivets, and re-aligning the cuff, and re-drilling the shell. LOTS of work, but sometimes this is the only way.
4) shim under the binding?

sb · 02-18-2013, 04:12 PM

I have never played with canting much. I notice looking at my liners from the heel the upper part of both liners flares to the outside. Guess that makes me slightly bowlegged?

I have no problems or pain on my upper legs but it seems I should try some canting to match my leg?

**mntlion** · 02-18-2013, 05:38 PM

If its working don't play with it

**Chainsaw_Willie** · 02-19-2013, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by mntlion

stretch the boot again as needed.
...

Guess I should've been more clear? Where to stretch is the root of the question. Pressure is in the arch area on the side of my foot and wrapping down under it a little. Is it possible to stretch this area? Would stretching the opposite side of the boot (more navicular work) make sense to allow the foot to shift away from the pressure point?

Thanks!

**XavierD** · 02-19-2013, 01:20 AM

If I read the phrases progressive flex, and full tilt in the same sentince without a contraction again I am gonna shoot something.

**mntlion** · 02-19-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie

Guess I should've been more clear? Where to stretch is the root of the question. Pressure is in the arch area on the side of my foot and wrapping down under it a little. Is it possible to stretch this area? Would stretching the opposite side of the boot (more navicular work) make sense to allow the foot to shift away from the pressure point?

Thanks!

I can't feel what your feet are feeling, but a guess is 2/3 on the arch side, 1/3 on the other...

go slow, and see how it feels

**Chainsaw_Willie** · 02-19-2013, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by mntlion

I can't feel what your feet are feeling, but a guess is 2/3 on the arch side, 1/3 on the other...

go slow, and see how it feels

Okay, thanks much!

**dark_star** · 03-03-2013, 07:38 AM

Question re: TLT5 P boot fit! I have seen a boot fitter who told me I have skinny feet and boots like Dynafit and Scarpa are the boots for me. I have a pair of TLT5 P's (not using any kind of footbed, other than the shitty one that came with it) and length is perfect. But after wearing them all day I get bad pain in both insteps, mostly right foot. Shell fit has my feet touching both sides when flattened. I have higher arches.

My question is: will a footbed help with this? It seems that raising my arch up slightly stops the direct physical contact with the side of the boot. Are there any good off-the-shelf you recommend? Or should I look to a boot fitter to expand the boot there?

Many thanks!