Running, Anyone...?

**tricameron** · 06-20-2010, 04:35 PM

do any of you take, recommend or discourage supplements....

**Tuckerman** · 06-21-2010, 06:19 AM

Mount Washington Auto Road Race
Place = 164
Place in division 20/ Total number in division = 73
Time = 1:33:48
Pace = 12:21
Club = TEAM MAGGOT

**GeezerSteve** · 06-21-2010, 10:19 AM

Good work

**strawjack** · 06-21-2010, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

Mount Washington Auto Road Race
Place = 164
Place in division 20/ Total number in division = 73
Time = 1:33:48
Pace = 12:21
Club = TEAM MAGGOT

that is pretty damn good man! did you make turns on the way back down?

**Tuckerman** · 06-21-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by strawjack

that is pretty damn good man! did you make turns on the way back down?

No, I got a ride.

Shewarge Amara, an Ethiopian from New York City broke the womens record by 2mins and won $5000 for doing so. Oh and she forgot her running shoes in NY and had to barrow a pair from another runner.

**Tuckerman** · 06-28-2010, 12:20 PM

So I told my 11 year old that if she ran a race with me as my team mate in a two person relay category that I would guarantee a top 3 finish. I did not know that they would not take her age into consideration anyway it was a 10 mile trail race made up of 3 loops. She ran the first 3 mile loop I ran the last two. And we won, she was (still is) so stoked.

**OldLarry** · 06-28-2010, 12:32 PM

^ that's awesome- congrats to you both!

**OldLarry** · 06-29-2010, 07:28 AM

serious question: when getting back into shape and ramping up mileage, does anyone else find their dumps to be Huh-youge? It seems like my body is literally trying to lighten it's load...

And I have actually cut back on the bran muffins...

**lionelhutz** · 06-29-2010, 01:20 PM

Yes.

Absolutely yes.

**valleygirl** · 06-30-2010, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

So I told my 11 year old that if she ran a race with me as my team mate in a two person relay category that I would guarantee a top 3 finish. I did not know that they would not take her age into consideration anyway it was a 10 mile trail race made up of 3 loops. She ran the first 3 mile loop I ran the last two. And we won, she was (still is) so stoked.

Awesome!! Was it the Black Fly race...??

**Tuckerman** · 06-30-2010, 07:50 AM

Yes at the Glen Trials.

**Tuckerman** · 07-16-2010, 06:34 AM

My interview is up. http://sherpajohn.blogspot.com/2010/...c-ferland.html

I'm off to VT.

**Tuckerman** · 07-20-2010, 05:50 PM

VT100 - 27 hours 17 mins. No belt buckle

I'll have to go back next year to get it I guess.

**XtrPickels** · 07-20-2010, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by tricameron

do any of you take, recommend or discourage supplements....

Yes

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**Dantheman** · 08-03-2010, 09:10 PM

Ran the Wasatch Speedgoat 50k last saturday at Snowbird. The mileage is nothing crazy as far as ultras go, but the course has 11,945' of elevation gain and it is highly technical from start to finish. Karl Meltzer designed the course and claims it is the hardest 50k in existence.

The race could not have gone better, I ended up finishing 53rd with a time of 8:01 (~200 started and 153 finished). There were some course tweaks this year and an updated map or course profile was never posted so I didn't realize I was on the last climb until I had about 100' of climbing left and people were cheering me on saying it was almost all downhill from there. I topped out on hidden peak (mi 26.5) at 7:15 in and realized I had a shot at breaking 8 hours. Energized by finding out I was much closer to the finish than I had thought, I found another gear and blazed down the last five miles faster than I had run any of the previous descents. I gave it all I had, I was fully anaerobic by the bottom and at the edge of control almost going down more than once, but I didn't quite have it. Still really happy with my time, I would have been OK with anything under 9 hours.

I felt great afterwords. I drank a PBR, a red bull cola and ate a nectarine and was totally good to go within a half hour of finishing. The rest of the day I felt like I had gotten a good workout but wasn't anywhere close to being destroyed like I was after the Grand Canyon last year. Legs were a bit stiff on sunday but I wasn't very sore at all. Three months of diligently following Crossfit Endurance paid off big time.

The race organization was top notch. The course was marked really well even in some fairly remote locations. Aid stations were packed with all kinds of goodies and the folks manning them were great. When you were still 50 yards from the tent people were running out to you and grabbing your pack or bottles to refill them, asking you what you needed, throwing icewater soaked towels on your neck and just generally being awesome. Big props to Karl for holding a great event that I would recommend to anyone.

Edit: pics are working now!

Pre race

Hidden Peak aid station (mi 7.7 and 26.5)

About to leave Hidden Peak and head over Baldy

Topping out the last climb

Last few meters

Done!

Stoked, with sweet race bling

**Tuckerman** · 08-04-2010, 12:43 PM

Great job DTM! That course looks like a ton of fun, whats next The Wasatch Front 100?

**Dantheman** · 08-04-2010, 09:36 PM

Last year I would have told you no fucking way. After the Grand Canyon I was so destroyed, I had to dig deeper than I have ever dug just limp my way to the end of that thing and I could barely walk for two days after. But after saturday it seems more like a realistic possibility. Maybe I will try a 24-hour race or two to see how I handle going all night and into the next day. If that goes well I may consider going for a 100-miler.

I saw a lot of people wearing those crazy Hoka shoes. Having almost 2 inches of shoe under my foot would have seemed crazy even before I ever heard the term "minimalist shoe". I want to try them just to see what they feel like. I also saw at least as many people sporting crosslites and I saw a few Inov8s as well.

**Viva** · 08-04-2010, 09:47 PM

Do a few trail 50 milers instead. 12 and 24 hours runs are typically circuits; you want to run in circles on a track for a whole day? I didn't think so.

**Dantheman** · 08-04-2010, 09:51 PM

Depends on the circle. 50 milers don't really address the issue of having to stay up for 24+ hours.

**Viva** · 08-04-2010, 10:24 PM

Well, why not just run a 100? That ought to tell you if you can stay up through the night. You'll probably find that a lot more satisfying than a 24 hour.

Maybe put your name in to pace someone at Watchcat? You'll be up all day and then you'll likely pace through the night and well into the morning. Think about it. Up all day following the race (and your runner) and then you pace until noon or so the next day. You'll learn a lot about what 100s are all about, too.

**XtrPickels** · 08-04-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dantheman

Three months of diligently following Crossfit Endurance paid off big time.

Congrats.
I read the your report specifically to see if you mentioned anything about crossfit endurance.

I wish there was good research studying CFE vs. a well designed "traditional" (70%ish Low intensity / 30%ish high intensity) training.

I'll take your experiences as a good endorsement of CFE

**Dantheman** · 08-05-2010, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Viva

Maybe put your name in to pace someone at Watchcat? You'll be up all day and then you'll likely pace through the night and well into the morning. Think about it. Up all day following the race (and your runner) and then you pace until noon or so the next day. You'll learn a lot about what 100s are all about, too.

That's a pretty good idea.

Originally Posted by XtrPickels

Congrats.
I read the your report specifically to see if you mentioned anything about crossfit endurance.

I wish there was good research studying CFE vs. a well designed "traditional" (70%ish Low intensity / 30%ish high intensity) training.

I'll take your experiences as a good endorsement of CFE

I followed my original plan that I posted in the crossfit thread in the spring pretty closely. The significant deviation was that I only did a couple of tempos and completely dropped them after about a month. I was having trouble finding time for them and it felt like maybe too much volume so I just treated the vert day outings like tempos. Occasionally I added a second S&C WOD on tuesday or wednesday but not typically.

Vert days started out at 5-8 miles and 3-4k of vert. Later, they were around 6k with the last one being almost 7.5k. By the end they were probably getting a bit long for true rx'ed CFE, but I definitely never went longer than 20 miles and probably averaged 12-15. Vert day and 2 interval sessions were the only running I did each week.

**Artie Fufkin** · 08-05-2010, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Viva

Well, why not just run a 100? That ought to tell you if you can stay up through the night. You'll probably find that a lot more satisfying than a 24 hour.

Maybe put your name in to pace someone at Watchcat? You'll be up all day and then you'll likely pace through the night and well into the morning. Think about it. Up all day following the race (and your runner) and then you pace until noon or so the next day. You'll learn a lot about what 100s are all about, too.

I agree with Viva, as that was pretty much what I did. I ran pretty well in trail marathon in June of 2007 and then a couple months later paced someone the last 25 miles at Leadville which was from 11:00PM to 5:00AM, and it was not a big deal running at night.

Had a blast pacing at Leadville and signed up to do it in 2008. Prior to the 2008 LT100 my longest event was the marathon I did and my longest outing was a 40 miler. I didn't tear it up at Leadville, but with minimal experience finished it in 28:23(without a crew and only using a pacer from miles 60-74). I'll be up there doing it again in a couple weeks.

I don't think you necessarily have to do a 50 mile race to finish a 100 miler, though it could help. I guess it all depends on your goals. My main goal for Leadville this year is to finish it again and have a good time.

**hafilax** · 08-05-2010, 03:22 PM

Never thought I'd look at this thread but I'm toying with the idea of running a 1/2 marathon on August 22. Been crossfiting but no real distance running so I'm doing an abbreviated scale up with 2 3km runs during the week and a long run on the weekend. Last weekend's 11km didn't go great but no unusual soreness so I'll increase a bit this weekend and see how it feels. If all's OK I'll go for it I think.