Maggot motorcycle stoke thread

[MrDirt]

Trackhead - I've got an '83 Honda XL600R undergoing a similar restoration. I'm actually moving out to Utah next week and bringing it along with me.





Kinda weird that I've also got a 250 sitting around, but mine's a 2 smoker.

[Trackhead]

Trackhead - I've got an '83 Honda XL600R undergoing a similar restoration. I'm actually moving out to Utah next week and bringing it along with me.

Nice! I'm not splitting my cases though, I think the bottom end is fine.

Get in touch when you get to Utah, always looking for folks to ride with.

[MrDirt]

Have you looked into using an XL600R top end on your XR? The displacement is the same, but the bore/stroke of each engine is different. The XR has a 97mm bore while the XL is 100mm, so swapping the XL top end will give you 628cc with the longer stroke of the XR bottom end. It's a monster of an engine, I'm told.

I ended up getting a wiseco 11:1 101mm piston for my XL, so I've got a spare cylinder if it interests you.

[g_man80]

Road some single and two-track near Logan today. Lots of ice and mud. Another couple inches of snow and it's time to head south. Also, I don't like rutting up the trails (mud hole pic), but this section was a jeep/quad trail and I didn't want to make it any worse by going around tearing up the sides.

[Trackhead]

Have you looked into using an XL600R top end on your XR? The displacement is the same, but the bore/stroke of each engine is different. The XR has a 97mm bore while the XL is 100mm, so swapping the XL top end will give you 628cc with the longer stroke of the XR bottom end. It's a monster of an engine, I'm told.

I ended up getting a wiseco 11:1 101mm piston for my XL, so I've got a spare cylinder if it interests you.

Thanks for the tip. For now I'm basically going to stay stock to avoid any over heating issues, etc. Perhaps after I get an oil cooler I might go the 628 route.

Are the high compression pistons a pain in the ass at all?

[ill-advised strategy]

Yeti, you haven't ridden a ducati. They are absolutely amazing! My 748 was an extension of your body when riding. The monster series are the same bikes just nekkid. I can assure you the brembo brakes and gobs of torque would have you forgetting buell by the second corner

I rode the monster 600. It handled well, but it was slow and it sounded like crap. I'm pretty sure it will never sound like a sportster engine or be made in wisconsin.

But you're right, that's what it's come to. Having to look into some water cooled mass produced italian maintenance-pig that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Fun is fun, riding anything is fun, it's just sad to have a very big dream of mine die like this.

[ill-advised strategy]

Bump cause We're moving and
wife says this isn't. Any mags want a project bike. Come on Trackhead or Yeti man you need this

oh my god, the crippler? I don't know if I'm up for the bad-handling 750 2 stroke of death.

[Tye 1on]

oh my god, the crippler? I don't know if I'm up for the bad-handling 750 2 stroke of death.

Great mileage tho, and awesome smoke/mile factor as well.

Is this the one that had the 3 into 4 exhaust, or was that a Suzuki 2-stroker around that time?

[HellgateBasement]

I rode the monster 600. It handled well, but it was slow and it sounded like crap. I'm pretty sure it will never sound like a sportster engine or be made in wisconsin.

But you're right, that's what it's come to. Having to look into some water cooled mass produced italian maintenance-pig that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Fun is fun, riding anything is fun, it's just sad to have a very big dream of mine die like this.

The 600 Monster is underpowered and doesn't sound great. But the 750's and 900's that were available at the same time handle just as well, are fun as fuck to ride, and sound amazing with just about any aftermarket exhaust. Nice deep sound under throttle. Since its the first thing anybody does, most of the used bikes for sale will have that taken care of. The whole series was air cooled. Its only the S4r etc. that use the engines off the superbikes that are liquid cooled.

Maybe I'm biased.

[Jethro]

My current street ride is a 2001 honda superhawk, aka the VTR1000f. It is a great ride. Good power and torque and it sounds nice with Two Brothers carbon cans. Other nice V-twin bikes are the Suzuki sv1000 and the tl1000. The Superhawk is for sale to pay for my 1952 Dodge M37 which arrived two days ago and is going to be an expensive project

[Micol]

Selling 94 Yamaha XT 600 E dual sport on Gear Swap to raise money for bc skip op I'm trying to buy. Nice bike.

[ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?p=2596578#post2596578"]FS 94 Yamaha XT 600 dual sport low miles to pay for BC ski op - Teton Gravity Research Forums[/ame]

[Tippster]

Buells >>>>> Monsters. Just no comparison. Shit, I like Speed Triples better than the Monster 900.

The 1129R has been giving the Ducati 1098 a serious run for best V-twin sport bike. Hopefully I can get a used one when i'm ready to buy.

Yeti - make me an offer and you can fly out to DC and ride my 1998 M2 wherever you want to go. Last of the Tube Frame normally aspirated Buells....

[ill-advised strategy]

maybe in about 5 years when I'm (please God I hope) out of school, making good money and have my student loans dealt with.

"the dream" was to have something that nobody else had ridden, to take the stickers off it myself. To know that the torque on every bolt is perfect, just for that little while, and to be apprised of every change as it happens while I put the miles on it myself.

no offense, honestly. I just had this dream of the factory fresh bike at the end of this long road of school/selling everything/moving/new career etc.

[MrDirt]

Thanks for the tip. For now I'm basically going to stay stock to avoid any over heating issues, etc. Perhaps after I get an oil cooler I might go the 628 route.

Are the high compression pistons a pain in the ass at all?

I'm really not sure how the engine is going to behave with that piston in it, but I know I'll have to run premium fuel. It should be pretty nuts though. 589cc and 8.7:1 to 618cc and 11:1. I am also kind of afraid for my right leg trying to kickstart it. Even in stock form these things are pretty hairy to kickstart when they backfire.

SFB, I sent you a PM about your H2. How much do you want for it?

[vincepru]

07 R6, integrated tail kit, race railz half cage, power commander (not installed yet) and a jardine exhaust.

currently chained to the garage by my parents back home. i got clocked going very very very fast. its now just a straight track bike.

[Trackhead]

I'm really not sure how the engine is going to behave with that piston in it, but I know I'll have to run premium fuel. It should be pretty nuts though. 589cc and 8.7:1 to 618cc and 11:1. I am also kind of afraid for my right leg trying to kickstart it. Even in stock form these things are pretty hairy to kickstart when they backfire.

Doesn't yours have an auto decompression on the cam to avoid the gnar to the right leg? My 96 XR is pretty easy to start. I could almost do it barefoot.

[MrDirt]

Doesn't yours have an auto decompression on the cam to avoid the gnar to the right leg? My 96 XR is pretty easy to start. I could almost do it barefoot.

Mine has a decompression lever on the bars. Definitely makes it easy to start, but the occasional backfire will still damn near rip my foot off.

I didnt realize your XR was that late a model. Is it a dual carb?

[Trackhead]

I didnt realize your XR was that late a model. Is it a dual carb?

Single carb, Edelbrock Qwiksilver pumper carb.

[1080Rider]

Buells >>>>> Monsters. Just no comparison. Shit, I like Speed Triples better than the Monster 900.

The 1129R has been giving the Ducati 1098 a serious run for best V-twin sport bike. Hopefully I can get a used one when i'm ready to buy.

Yeti - make me an offer and you can fly out to DC and ride my 1998 M2 wherever you want to go. Last of the Tube Frame normally aspirated Buells....

Tipp, we'll always have this debate I like the components and attention to racing detail that comes w/ a ducati. It's a racebike adapted for the street, the buell is a roadbike that guys are racing. And i must add, I've never ridden a buell. I might ride one and think they kill the duc's. All bikes have something to offer, the best bike ever made is the one you like riding!

[fez]

there's still hope yeti, there are some rumors going around the buell message boards that Erik isnt done building bikes yet. Bombardier (who owns Rotax which makes the liquid cooled 1125cc twin) is one name that comes up from people in the know.

and if you ever find your way to bozeman, you can ride my XB 12s. that goes for you guys too, 1080Rider and Tipp.

[1080Rider]

there's still hope yeti, there are some rumors going around the buell message boards that Erik isnt done building bikes yet. Bombardier (who owns Rotax which makes the liquid cooled 1125cc twin) is one name that comes up from people in the know.

and if you ever find your way to bozeman, you can ride my XB 12s. that goes for you guys too, 1080Rider and Tipp.

Hey fez, i'm outa the loop since I haven't owned a bike in a few years. But didn't aprillia contract w/ rotax for their motors? I might be wrong but for some reason that's who I thought was building their motors. I don't think there are any big reliability issues w/ aprillia is there? Just an interesting side note I guess. Would not be unheard of for rotax to make a motor for future buells...

[fez]

i think rotax started making aprilia motors in the 80s? basically when they started offering 4 strokes. dont know much about aprilia except that if i was to get an italian bike (or replace my buell) a tuono would be on the short list.

last year buell came out with a 1125 cc liquid cooled twin sport bike, 1125R. it was raced pretty well this year, with danny eslick winning ama daytona sport bike on one and i think a top 10 finish in ama american superbike. buell expanded the line this year with the 1125CR naked bike. rotax produced the motors for both those bikes. so hopefully rotax makes motors for future buells.

some of the speculation about brp and rotax has to do with recouping investment into the tooling etc to produce the new motor.

personally, i rather like the old air cooled lump. love the power and amazing torque. and i even like the sound that makes harley riders look and then look again. i'd like to have a smoother shifting 6 speed transmission, but i like the old air cooled 1203.

i cant believe there's 12" new snow in bozeman and i'm talking about motorcycles!

[FutureHermit]

My ride is pretty sweet,

I just cant get this chick off of the damn thing

[tex1230]

Sad Day. Sold my Bonneville today, delivering it to the buyer on tuesday.
Now I'm going to dream all winter about what's next...
Anyone know od a '50s Norton in need of restoration? I have more time than money right now, but that's my dream.

[Trackhead]

The skiing in the Wasatch is really sucking right now, the bike trails are snow covered, so what else to do but head 2 hours south to ride the motos. Yesterday I was skiing mank. Today we met at 7am, drove south, rode 130+ miles of dirt, and then got home well in time for dinner. Bwah! Utah, bitches.

I ride with a cheap DSLR camera that now has a huge scratch across the wide angle lens. Oh well, lenses are like Honda valves, disposable.

The start, about 3 miles east of Huntington at the start of a 130 something mile loop in and around the awe inspiring San Rafael Swell.


30 something degrees and 50mph or so, burrrr.......heading east towards Hwy 6.


Tom's hi-tech scarf to keep warm. Ghetto.


Turning south on the Old Railroad Grade road.


South to Buckmaster Draw and eventually I-70 and Hwy 24.


North past Shadscale Mesa and The Squeeze.


Somewhere I think I read it's required to take multiple cheez-a-rama shots of your aluminum horse, so here they are. Rumor is it makes them more reliable.




Entering Black Dragon Canyon. Where else in the world can you do this?




We had to stop, turn the engines off, and gawk a bit.


Weeee....peeee gravel.


Heading west just north of I-70 on a variety of dirt surfaces and some snow.


After crossing under and over I-70 four times, we were now headed north west into the red rock again. Stopping briefly at Horseshoe Bend.


North of Head of Sinbad.


Heading towards North Coal Wash.


Dropping into North Coal Wash.


No pics in the wash because it was all loose, deep sand. I take most of these pics while riding, and doing so in sand isn't really the smartest thing to do.

Out of Coal Wash and onto The Red Ledges Plateau and Fuller Bottom Draw.


Yeeehaw!


If the water wasn't clear, I'm not sure what we would have done. After some scouting, we determined it to be a shallow crossing. Dunking the bike and body on a 44 degree day in freezing water would have been bad form.


Today we say one human in a truck on the first gravel road. After that, we saw ZERO people. I'll say it again, Utah, I love it here.