The Quiver Pic Rerun Thread

[iggyskier]

woah. so ON3P is for real and actually pressing now? Any info on any other models?

Well, is it "real?" haha I dunno. Am I finally pressing? Yeah. Lots of little issues this year (broken hand, having to wait weeks for the correct templates, and so on) but finally good to go. Still working out the kinks of having to do everything in a small, let me emphasize, SMALL shop. Basically every time I do anything I need to move something else.

Anyway, I have templates for 6 different skis, and am in the process of getting another 4-5 more in shorter sizes. Basically hope to get a bunch of skis on snow and just see what shapes people enjoy.

A note on the names, because they may not make much sense, but they are all derived from the names of people who have been involved in this whole process.

Also, quick note about the rocker, because the ones listed are sort of suggested. I can change the tip/tail shape from flat to 15cm, 25cm, and soon 35cm of rocker at varying heights (all between 1cm and 2.5cm).

So the shapes I can currently press:
The Great Scott
191cm - 147/122/127. 25cm rocker in the tip, 15cm rocker in the tail. The ski also tapers in at the locations where the rocker begins.

The Caylor
191cm - 145/120/138. 25cm rocker in the tip and tail. Mount is around -3. Sidecut also tapers in where the rocker starts. Basically think a longer, slightly skinnier EP Pro.

The Wrenegade
191cm - 141/113/128 - 15cm rocker in the tips. I am mounting my -7.5cm from center, which is dead center in the actual running length of the ski.

The Dumptruck
haha this one is just named for how ridiculous is it. It was actually dropped right after volkl announced their skis for next year because they are pretty identical to the chopstix, but a few people still wanted it, so I kept it.
186cm - 148/130/148 - Not sure on the rocker, but probably 25cm tip and tail. Depends what the person wanted.

The Jeronimo
186cm - 145/115/142 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

The JBS (Josh's Baby Ski for our shorter friend Josh)
186cm 132/104/120 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

I have a few other ideas for shapes on longer length, but I think we are set for the time being. Also going to transfer most of the above shapes to a skis between 174cm and 180cm or so for smaller people. Also add a park ski probably.

Anyway, so yeah, that is sort of it for now. My current set up in not very conducive for production. I am probably moving to Portland around June and the hope was to find some real money, a real shop, and get some real tools (cnc-router, double bay-double wide ski press, base grinder, etc) and go from there. But who knows. If that happens, my current ski press will be for sale in a few months.

[tex1230]

I don't think I ever played here...
a few collectables...

[Vicious]

Well, is it "real?" haha I dunno. Am I finally pressing? Yeah. Lots of little issues this year (broken hand, having to wait weeks for the correct templates, and so on) but finally good to go. Still working out the kinks of having to do everything in a small, let me emphasize, SMALL shop. Basically every time I do anything I need to move something else.

Anyway, I have templates for 6 different skis, and am in the process of getting another 4-5 more in shorter sizes. Basically hope to get a bunch of skis on snow and just see what shapes people enjoy.

A note on the names, because they may not make much sense, but they are all derived from the names of people who have been involved in this whole process.

Also, quick note about the rocker, because the ones listed are sort of suggested. I can change the tip/tail shape from flat to 15cm, 25cm, and soon 35cm of rocker at varying heights (all between 1cm and 2.5cm).

So the shapes I can currently press:
The Great Scott
191cm - 147/122/127. 25cm rocker in the tip, 15cm rocker in the tail. The ski also tapers in at the locations where the rocker begins.

The Caylor
191cm - 145/120/138. 25cm rocker in the tip and tail. Mount is around -3. Sidecut also tapers in where the rocker starts. Basically think a longer, slightly skinnier EP Pro.

The Wrenegade
191cm - 141/113/128 - 15cm rocker in the tips. I am mounting my -7.5cm from center, which is dead center in the actual running length of the ski.

The Dumptruck
haha this one is just named for how ridiculous is it. It was actually dropped right after volkl announced their skis for next year because they are pretty identical to the chopstix, but a few people still wanted it, so I kept it.
186cm - 148/130/148 - Not sure on the rocker, but probably 25cm tip and tail. Depends what the person wanted.

The Jeronimo
186cm - 145/115/142 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

The JBS (Josh's Baby Ski for our shorter friend Josh)
186cm 132/104/120 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

I have a few other ideas for shapes on longer length, but I think we are set for the time being. Also going to transfer most of the above shapes to a skis between 174cm and 180cm or so for smaller people. Also add a park ski probably.

Anyway, so yeah, that is sort of it for now. My current set up in not very conducive for production. I am probably moving to Portland around June and the hope was to find some real money, a real shop, and get some real tools (cnc-router, double bay-double wide ski press, base grinder, etc) and go from there. But who knows. If that happens, my current ski press will be for sale in a few months.

Fuggin' sickness Scotty!

Cheers!

[foreal]

FOREAL, if you had to pick between the Praxis and 120s, and I'm assuming the Komis would be 3rd on the list, which would it be and why? I don't recall reading any comments from you in related threads.

I tend to break it out where I'm riding and the temp of snow because it can be from blower to muck here. Here's my personal breakdown:

- Praxis; soft/new snow or crud at any temp range. Areas w tighter terrain and where I might like to do some skinning.
- CK; 4"+ of fresh on 25+ degree days. Resorts where there is no need to skin, only bootpack.
- 120; any quality of BC snow, resorts that I will be hitting up the sidecountry/BC, do some skining and have moderatly open to wide open terrain.
- FFF; 6" + of fresh anything colder than 20 degrees. In resort days when I am hucking and riding fast open terrain.

This may, or may not, answer your question but I like/love all of these skis for different days and applications

Cheers,
-B

[robnow]

FOREAL, you SLUT!!
Thanks for the breakdown.

[kalisto]

But who knows. If that happens, my current ski press will be for sale in a few months.

pm sent.

[iscariot]

Me and the boys...



OH MY!

[iscariot]

Another quiver.









OH MY!

[iscariot]

Last one...



OH MY!

[AKbruin]

Nice quivers ^^^

Iscariot- I'm curious, how do your AK Enemies with Fritschis handle on hard snow? I have Naxos on mine, and while they're great on soft snow, they are a little scary on hard snow. It's pretty difficult to set an edge.

[iscariot]

Hard snow = not so great. I have them mounted at +2 and the tips will flap/flutter at speed. Great in Pow, trees, crud deflects them a bit but I ski with a really wide stance (X-racer, stace = hip/shoulder width or a bit more) and so I likely don't notice it as much as others who use a narrower stance. It is difficult to set an edge on groomers/hardpack but I don't really use them inbounds except to access BC gates or to get back to the lift.

My advice to get them to hold on groomers or hardpack a bit better:
Wider stance and counter rotate. If you exaggerate both of these they will hold a bit better.

[kalisto]

Sick .243

I'm definitaly rockin' one of those in my bike quiver.

[Vicious]

Yummy!

456

[Kya]

Well, is it "real?" haha I dunno. Am I finally pressing? Yeah. Lots of little issues this year (broken hand, having to wait weeks for the correct templates, and so on) but finally good to go. Still working out the kinks of having to do everything in a small, let me emphasize, SMALL shop. Basically every time I do anything I need to move something else.

Anyway, I have templates for 6 different skis, and am in the process of getting another 4-5 more in shorter sizes. Basically hope to get a bunch of skis on snow and just see what shapes people enjoy.

A note on the names, because they may not make much sense, but they are all derived from the names of people who have been involved in this whole process.

Also, quick note about the rocker, because the ones listed are sort of suggested. I can change the tip/tail shape from flat to 15cm, 25cm, and soon 35cm of rocker at varying heights (all between 1cm and 2.5cm).

So the shapes I can currently press:
The Great Scott
191cm - 147/122/127. 25cm rocker in the tip, 15cm rocker in the tail. The ski also tapers in at the locations where the rocker begins.

The Caylor
191cm - 145/120/138. 25cm rocker in the tip and tail. Mount is around -3. Sidecut also tapers in where the rocker starts. Basically think a longer, slightly skinnier EP Pro.

The Wrenegade
191cm - 141/113/128 - 15cm rocker in the tips. I am mounting my -7.5cm from center, which is dead center in the actual running length of the ski.

The Dumptruck
haha this one is just named for how ridiculous is it. It was actually dropped right after volkl announced their skis for next year because they are pretty identical to the chopstix, but a few people still wanted it, so I kept it.
186cm - 148/130/148 - Not sure on the rocker, but probably 25cm tip and tail. Depends what the person wanted.

The Jeronimo
186cm - 145/115/142 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

The JBS (Josh's Baby Ski for our shorter friend Josh)
186cm 132/104/120 - again, rocker depends on what you want.

I have a few other ideas for shapes on longer length, but I think we are set for the time being. Also going to transfer most of the above shapes to a skis between 174cm and 180cm or so for smaller people. Also add a park ski probably.

Anyway, so yeah, that is sort of it for now. My current set up in not very conducive for production. I am probably moving to Portland around June and the hope was to find some real money, a real shop, and get some real tools (cnc-router, double bay-double wide ski press, base grinder, etc) and go from there. But who knows. If that happens, my current ski press will be for sale in a few months.

Wow, that is awesome!

[300hp]

scotty is the fucking man.

his brain is nuts, the homemade press blows my mind. so stoked for spring testing.
Hunter

[iggyskier]

Update for mounted skis.



they kick ass.

[jerr]

Update for mounted skis.



they kick ass.

Those are pretty damn fine graphics. And that's coming from someone who likes plain black and not much else.

Good luck with the move and the finance.

[oftpiste]

Update for mounted skis.



they kick ass.

Rode them today, only one lap but yes, they did kick ass.

[Phill]

they look like they have a LOT of tail

[iggyskier]

they look like they have a LOT of tail

The angle I took that picture from is a bit deceiving. They aren't too bad. For me, I think they are mounted a bit too far forward. I am at -7.5cm from center and I think I am going to move them back to -9. But even at their current location they did pretty well. I think the rocker is a large part of that. Even in the super shitty, manky snow today you can stay forward and they stay on top.

This is a picture of my buddy David before taking them out for a few runs. It is a bit easier to actually see the length of the tip & tail then in that first picture.

[mountain_man]

they look like they have a LOT of tail

For me, I think they are mounted a bit too far forward. I am at -7.5cm from center and I think I am going to move them back to -9.

From that pic it actually looks like the perfect monunt position. further back would seem like thay have a tiny effective edge, tail.

They do look sick can't wait to see the entire lineup once they get pressed.

Where's the 'beta' like how'd they ski man!
Keeping us in the dark here.

[oftpiste]

They felt like they had a lot of tail when I strapped them on, but didn't ski badly at all in that position. I told iggyskier that if they were mine I might mount them a bit further back but not much.

How they ski: I only had one run on warm snow, groomer run later in the day. The felt super stable and were WAY easier to turn than I expected. Held an edge well, skidded just right when necessary and seemed to want to go fast. Though it was impossible to go very fast yesterday I skied them as fast as I could go and felt confident. You could load up the tail at the finish of a turn and pop nicely into the next one.

They felt a bit heavy on my feet hanging from the chair. The rocker seemed to make the tips deflect a little when hitting chunks, but they were stiff enough just behind the rocker that this felt like 'good' deflection and not the kind you wouldn't want to experience in those conditions.

I'd love to have a chance to ski them in powder and would have loved to take them out for another lap on the 6" of sunbaked chunder that was available one chair higher than where I tried them. Another time I hope.

Hey, this is a garage made ski by a relative novice craftsman and I would definitely consider buying a ski he made considering the thoughtful design, graphics, construction and excellent skiability. He's nice guy too with lots of obvious passion and good ideas for the craft.

Big thumbs up, iggy, and thanks for letting me take them out. You can move these comments to a better thread if'n ya want.

[iggyskier]

From that pic it actually looks like the perfect monunt position. further back would seem like thay have a tiny effective edge, tail.

They do look sick can't wait to see the entire lineup once they get pressed.

Where's the 'beta' like how'd they ski man!
Keeping us in the dark here.

Well at their current mount, there is 73.5cm in the tip and tail (add 15cm of edge with the rocker, so total of 88.5cm).

At -9, there would be 72cm of tail, 75cm of tip (90cm of tip with rocker).

As for how they ski, they are interesting for sure. Lots of fun. Super super stable, even with a forward mount. I was trying to go as fast as I can and they just keep up. Enough sidecut to carve, but there is no issue pointing it. Just roll your ankles and they carve. Very easy to ski for a ski this size.

Regarding the weight, this is a pretty big ski. It is a true 191cm, tip to tail pulled tight, 141/113/128 mounted with s916s. So I feel the weight is proportional.

Very forgiving, but stiff. Rocker is great. I don't think I will ever ski anything again that has less than 15cm of rocker (as long as it is not too high, this ski has 1.5cm x 15cm per ski) because I hardly notice it at all on groomers, but even the small rocker helps a ton when keep the ski above anything chunky or soft, which allows for the forward mount to work pretty well.

The skis was interesting in that it was damp but poppy. Which for me is the best of both worlds. It was snappy, stable, but not dead felling. And it skis stiffer than it hand flexes for sure. Seems to be a pattern with bamboo cores.

Overall, I am pretty stoked. I have spent a lot of time skiing multiple pairs of iggies, Kwoods, capital, K2s, volkls, etc, and I have had as much fun on this pair as any ski I have ever skied (but maybe I am biased ). But this is my first pair, made completely by hand (nothing done with computer controlled equipment which I want so bad...), and it seems that the four people who have tried it thus far have all liked it a lot. So only good things to come from here.

I'd love to have a chance to ski them in powder and would have loved to take them out for another lap on the 6" of sunbaked chunder that was available one chair higher than where I tried them. Another time I hope.

And Oftpiste, sorry. Wish I had known you wanted to test them more, you totally could have taken them for a few more runs. The guy who tried them next could have waited. But thanks for the review.

Depending on your skiing style and how you want the ski to perform, I already have a few ideas as to how to improve the ski. But as I said, I am completely stoked on them. It feels good to have put a lot of time into something and have it really pay off for me.

[oftpiste]

No worries. I was psyched to get a ride on them. I hope you'll keep me abreast of your future endeavors. You've got a terrific start.

[iggyskier]

No worries. I was psyched to get a ride on them. I hope you'll keep me abreast of your future endeavors. You've got a terrific start.

Well there is a few more weeks of lift-served skiing to go, and I will be around alpental/snoqualmie for sure, so if you are planning on being up there, by all means let me know and I should have these and a few other shapes ready to go (this goes for anyone else too....I have a 301mm boot sole and we were able to get a 317mm boot in there). Some maybe mounted with demos too.

Also, think you could comment a bit on the feeling of the ski regarding pop/dampness at all? I, as well as a few other people who skied them, have been having a hard time describing the felling of the ski. Basically lots of pop but very damp, which is an interesting combo for sure. Is that how you would describe it?