Fox or Push for Float rebuild

**InspectorGadget** · 04-09-2007, 03:12 PM

The Fox Float shock on Mini Gadget's Kona Dawg isn't holding air; should I have it Foxed or Pushed?

I'm leaning toward sending it to the fine folks at Push.

**Dickeymotto** · 04-09-2007, 03:16 PM

Push for sure, Fox builds kick ass shocks but I've found their customer service less than desireable. Never had a problem with Push.

**kidwoo** · 04-09-2007, 03:27 PM

I think you should take it apart, clean and regrease it, and buy a 2 dollar valvecore tool, replace the shrader core and it will probably work.

**mntlion** · 04-09-2007, 03:32 PM

rear shock? new air seals usually solve that, easy to do inhouse (yours or LBS)

pushing is nice.

**Dickeymotto** · 04-10-2007, 03:00 PM

I was just saying that if he is bent on sending it somewhere, Push is the place. Fox shox are way easy and cheap to replace seals, so do that first.

**Dromond** · 04-10-2007, 03:08 PM

I had my ancient Vanilla RC fully rebuilt (with the new valves, whole shebang) at the beggining of last summer. It's a whole new shock/bike. Loved it!

**pechelman** · 04-10-2007, 03:20 PM

if you have basic shop tools and a little bit of mechanical sense, do it yourself.

ive rebuilt vanilla rc's more times than I care to remember and its very easy.

**kidwoo** · 04-10-2007, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by pechelman

if you have basic shop tools and a little bit of mechanical sense, do it yourself.

ive rebuilt vanilla rc's more times than I care to remember and its very easy.

We should talk.

I've got an old vanilla dh that's better than anything being made today. It's got a remote reservoir but shouldn't be too different.

**rideit** · 04-10-2007, 03:50 PM

Any of you ever rebuild a Talus rear?

Push wont touch it.

Fox wants to pretend that they never made it.

**kidwoo** · 04-10-2007, 03:56 PM

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**Dickeymotto** · 04-10-2007, 04:03 PM

rebuilt a talas fork, but not the rear shocks, good luck with that one

**rideit** · 04-10-2007, 04:10 PM

Talus front is a piece o' cake, the rear is a cluster-fuck.

C'mon, woo, you are all bad-ass, but air is a good application for the Switchblade, and you know it!

(Besides, the SB can't run a coil-over, anyway)

**pechelman** · 04-10-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by rideit

Any of you ever rebuild a Talus rear?

Push wont touch it.

Fox wants to pretend that they never made it.

Originally Posted by kidwoo

We should talk.

I've got an old vanilla dh that's better than anything being made today. It's got a remote reservoir but shouldn't be too different.

I dont have all my tools like I did a few years ago, but chances are its easier than you think to rebuild them.

Seriously, the hardest part is finding yourself a nice soft pillowblock you can clamp around the shock body while removing the lower shockbody cap.

Once you've removed that, drain the fluid, remove the piston, check whatever seals you want, reshim however you want, clean it up good, and youre ready to reassemble. No Im not making this sound easier than it is, its super easy.

The second hardest part, which really just takes a little practice and patience is bleeding the system. There are a couple tricks that make it super easy thanks to resevoirs and floating pistons.

Oh yea, depressurize it obviously before you start.

Id be happy to help either of you through it, or try to do it myself if you want.

**kidwoo** · 04-10-2007, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by rideit

C'mon, woo, you are all bad-ass, but air is a good application for the Switchblade, and you know it!

I was making fun of your spelling, not your use of air shocks.

pechy: I'll take a pic of the thing and show it to you.

It's kind of a moot point though because I just got a new dh frame that uses a different sized shock. I'm actually pretty bummed about it.

**pechelman** · 04-10-2007, 04:50 PM

cool, ill see if I can dig up any of my vanilla rc pictures from forever ago

**Rontele** · 04-10-2007, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by kidwoo

I was making fun of your spelling, not your use of air shocks.

pechy: I'll take a pic of the thing and show it to you.

It's kind of a moot point though because I just got a new dh frame that uses a different sized shock. I'm actually pretty bummed about it.

will it fit my Dirtbag? i think it is the same shock size as the 6.6

I am so glad Phil is my friend. And honestly buddy, you are a freaking rocket scientist. I expect dessembling and assembling rear suspension to come easily to you.

**pechelman** · 04-10-2007, 04:54 PM

hah
you're funny
its just coincidence i work on those things

If you can turn a wrench and understand which direction loosens and which directions tightens, I promise I could show you how to rebuild your own shocks in like 30mins. Its stupid easy. Its like taking apart a ballpoint pen. Im serious.

**kidwoo** · 04-10-2007, 05:14 PM

ron: it's a dh shock......9.5 x 3. It won't fit.

**Rontele** · 04-10-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by kidwoo

ron: it's a dh shock......9.5 x 3. It won't fit.

heh. not even close. but I can relate to those dimensions

**reidhresko** · 04-10-2007, 08:50 PM

push it. those guys are personal friends and do a killer job. night and day compared to fox.

**rideit** · 04-10-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by pechelman

I dont have all my tools like I did a few years ago, but chances are its easier than you think to rebuild them.

.

I know, I owned a shop for years...(I still have a full on pro shop) but, the shock doesn't need a rebuild, it needs IMPROVEMENT. However, I don't know that there is anyway to up the performance, so I don't know that it is worth it to do anything at all...I believe that it performs to the best of it's abilities. I would rather disable the TALAS functions, and add some form of light (variable) platform.

Any suggestions on that?

**pechelman** · 04-10-2007, 10:05 PM

ive never screwed with one of those shocks and know nothing about its circuitry. short of taking it apart myself i cant really say, sorry.

by platform you mean for it to have nice smooth easy movement over small low speed type hits, yet have the ability to absorb bigger higher velocity ones? Ive never quite understood all the bike lingo on dampers.

if thats the case, reshimming the piston(s) should help out.
although its not very adjustable.

**Dromond** · 04-11-2007, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by pechelman

by platform you mean for it to have nice smooth easy movement over small low speed type hits, yet have the ability to absorb bigger higher velocity ones? Ive never quite understood all the bike lingo on dampers.

I think that he means the reverse. Less movement over small low speed compressions to reduce pedal bob.