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Full Frame B&W
http://photos-244.ak.facebook.com/ip...25244_4325.jpg
2
semitight crop B&W
http://uashome.alaska.edu/%7Ejnppm20..._files/web.jpg
3
Color almost full frame
http://photos-245.ak.facebook.com/ip...25245_4599.jpg
4
color crop
http://photos-246.ak.facebook.com/ip...25246_4914.jpg
http://www.always420forum.com/forum/...eberry_1_1.jpg
Cropping is for gapers who don't know how to frame a shot and there's no reason to run B&W when you have sickter alpenglow.
Still like the original the best. IMO, the mountains being out of focus on the crop takes away from the pic.
it needs more contrast. Force some more contrast out of that thing, and then I'll respond.
1.
The blown highlights in the upper-right are far less harsh in b&w.
The detail in the foreground is pretty cool.
The out-of-focus b/g isn't as bothersome when its further away.
the dankness is always the best crop....the alpenglow is the shit, but the mountains being out of focus kinda kills it for meQuote:
Originally Posted by BakerBoy
Maybe if you just croped it, it would look fine, but the enlargement adds to the distortion, especially of the mountains. I would go with the original.
I think a crop of him with an even bigger pack would be cool.
BobMc
Dude, you have milked the fuck out of that picture so much, that the only crop I want to see is the one that removes it entirely. I mean, for fucks sake, take at least one other picture that doesn't suck (because the picture in question does not suck), and ask about that one.
I only ask because I'm putting it in a show and I gotta figure out which edit will make me $$$
Tomacco.
It tastes like..... grandma.
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Originally Posted by BobMc
Don't hate, akpm's newest gf is in there.
Ha! I forgot about the AKPM packathon :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BobMc
The big orange one?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomw_n
number one = awsome shot
thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BakerBoy
I think I'd go for something in between one and two. The only problem with one for me is the skier is too centered. I'd try to move him a little left in the frame, but not cropped as much as two. Christ, check out the skier's profile in number two, he looks like sasquatch!
I won't post a pic of a shaved beaver.
However, I think all the pics are outstanding. 1 is my fav
nice shot.
yea, i say #1.
Got any more of the trailing cold smoke? I'd crop it sort of like this. Add even more left side if you have it to shift the skier further right. I'd like to see that framing in color and B&W.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...1&d=1173331666
I vote for #1. Solarization might look cool, too.
Option 1 with the black boarder.
number 3 all the way. the lighting is tits and the mountains are blurry in the crop.
#1 is definitely the best. And thanks for showing everyone where I'll be skiing on Saturday (probably minus the huge pack, though)
:D
you know the best thing about that day, we were gonna skin but the patrol director comes out to yell at us for skiing up the no skin zone (even when closed as it was that day) and then goes: "oh its you, we're gonna turn on the lift wanna do some runs" yup our own private alpenglow:FIREdevilQuote:
Originally Posted by akrdubbs
AKPM, I dig the first 3. They're all excellent images but the 1st version is the most powerful and well framed. I really dig the B&W. Nice work on the conversions.
I would go for numero 3, you don't see too many skiing photos with afternoon colors... BW is ok, but you lose points if you remove those colors
I am going with a lightly colord number 1, in photoshop try and play with the saturation of the image, maybe curves too. The cold smoke being there in the first shot is what really makes it, the others look incomplete and aren't "balanced" compositionaly.
There's a certain presence in #1. I don't think the alpenglow work for that image- it's too weak and only serves to distract.
Definitely number 2. You follow the rule of thirds there with your subject off-center. That's a better postion for him. And you see the great detail in the puffing smoke and his gear. With such a tight shot, the color - though I hate to say it - doesn't add much for this photo. And I usually always prefer color! If it had been shot from far away and you could see more mountains in alpenglow, then yes color. Also, you notice the blown highlights in the sky a lot more with the color. And he's a silhouette anyway so B&W is the way to go.
I voted for 1 too. Nice work Patrick.
I think the bws are the better photos but I dont like either crop particularly.
The first one puts the skier, the subject, dead smack middle in the frame.
If its going to be judged, youll probably get hurt Id imagine because of that simple feature.
I think the 2nd crop is more to what you should enter. Extend the crop boundaries down a little so as to place the subject in the upper left third.
Id also reccomend burning in the upper right sky highlights a tad, burn in the bottom left corner for some tonal balance, and hold back the exposure on the skier himself to remove such a high Dmax and maybe attempt to get some details in the Zone 9 exposure range. You've also got a highlight on the skiers glove which is a bit distracting and could use a quick burn in as well. You might also try holding back a little of the exposure on the smoke trail, see if you can get it to be more smokey and have more chunks of flying snow. (worth a shot)
anyway, its a good working negative\raw, has a lot of potential
a book id reccomend picking up is the Master Printers Workbook (i think thats the name). Has some great photos with all the printers notes on what he did and why. It will really change the way to print your shots.