Suit, please?
Troll, I'm not gonna bump your "Concerned Maggots" shit but you have got to be fucking kidding me. I suppose using an alias your way of modeling full disclosure. What was up with DW is NONE of our business. Doug's grief and supporting him however we choose to is.
Yeah, that thread is wrong on so many levels. Probably reopens the discussion as to allowing ALIAS'.
Agreed. Terrible Taste....delete it.
And while you're at it.
Out them.
Period.
The alias BS has gone too far.
out them and delete it! that thread is so unacceptable on so many levels
I really enjoyed the DefJef photoshop thread so please out the alias and let the fun begin.
Unfortunately, Suit is fast asleep I'm sure so this will sit and fester until tomorrow. I for one apologize for bumping that thread, I just had to comment.
Jay
I agree, that thread is in bad taste. I wanted to voice my opinion but not bump that other piece of shit thread. DELETE IT!
Just because we donated $$ to Shmoe, does not give us "movie rights" to the "story." I just got really pissed thinking about this. Its like the paparazzi, or Entertaiment Tonight. I hate that shit. Fucking Bullshit.
Stay strong Shmoesmith.
i'm not touching that other thread with a pole of any length. i suggest we all do the same.
Delete the thread. I gave money with no stipulations. If shmoe wants a beer and a smoke, I'm sure he could use it more than me, regardless of anything.
Lynch the douchebag. Poor taste indeed.
I gave Doug money to do whatever he wants with it. He can buy a LS9000 with it for all I care. Maybe buy some tacos. Maybe some of AKPM's photos. Maybe a case of beer. Maybe as simple as fuel for his car.
Ya'know like anywhere there's alot of good people on here and than theres the few fuckwads.
free speech. let it roll. Altachic is in somewhat of an agreement here, and she wouldn't do wrong (or something). Lots of money and trust here, let's make sure the truth is the truth...
This is going to get VERY ugly. Please Suit delete and let this all blow over!!!
Jay
Maybe there's something behind it. Quality mags backing it up.
Quit whining to the suit all the time.
Come on, whoever posted it, delete it.
You sound pretty rational, like you wanted to get a feel for what people think. We want it GONE.
If you want to inquire, ask Doug privately.
bullshit. It was posted, he has the right to see it. Deleting it would be a move done behind his back.Quote:
Originally Posted by altagirl
I'll agree with the "delete it" crowd. On some level I regret having dignified it with a response, but feel that questions (not about the past donation, but about future ones) should be addressed before a similar situation arises again.
Z-You seem to be all for the nitty gritty. I'm just wondering.. Did you donate? Or are you just along for the ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
One quality Mag backing it up, and an "mystery" maggot. Again, Doug is answering his PM's and phone and if there was really a "Concerned Maggot" they would have had the decency to PM Doug directly. Like I said this is going to get ugly, and trust me Jong, you haven't been around long enough to know how ugly this can get. We're asking Suit to step in and take this off the public board to where it belongs, in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by GI JONG
Jay
this is sad... already the damage is done - people will now be less likely to give. I sincerely hope that trust is not lost here, that is one of the things that has been so amazing to see/participate in, in my short time here...
April 2006 huh? You're old skool dawg.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnflyfish
This place lives and dies on being self-regulating. It'll regulate this mess as well.
I'm with Z, all you wannabe censors are on the wrong forum.
Fuck deleting shit. Dude can answer or not.
I am on the Thread originator should delete bandwagon.
Thanks for starting this thread Monique.
Again, all the dirty little details just don't matter to me.
Even if every suggestion made there was true, I just don't care.
Seven days after the funeral!!, I think the thread is cruel
Along for the ride. Barely in the position to donate to myself. However sometimes I think our generosity can go too far, too easily. I really don't think thats the situation here, but were talking alot of money here. I bet this alias someone respected here, and since the community donated, its the community's right to hear it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the Mad
Also, I think deleting this thread behind shoe's back is not cool. He should atleast see it, answering it is totally up to him. It was posted, it should stay.
while I disagree with the thread, Z is right--i'd guess enough people have seen it to qualify as "published" under the libel standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
No, but his awesomness isQuote:
Originally Posted by stump832
For the record, my post was to the "concerned maggots" alias. THEY should delete it. It's not like they're not reading this.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
edit: however it's probably way too late at this point.
yeah, there are several questions that don't seem necessary... this seems weird to say the least. If this is just about $$$, why not just ask the last Q, and dispense with the dirty laundry???Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
I didn't donate because, well never wanted to be involved with the kind of crap in the other thread. The thread in question seriously stinks.
That's fine, sorry, but Monique called in The Suit in the thread title, I was more focused on that. People calling for the Suit every time they don't like something is just bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by altagirl
Didn't mean time served, but what is brought to the table. Pretty easy for a lurker not adding to the group with a whopping 75 posts to throw stones. As for old skool, yeah I'm old you got that part right.Quote:
Originally Posted by truth
Jay
i dunno about you guys, but when i'm in public and i see something personally distasteful, i either look away FAST or make fun of it.
i don't go crying to some authority demanding someone censor the offensive and objectionable material.
I agree. I don't think shmoesmith "owes it to us" to answer any of these questions, but someone here obviously does and they have a right to air their opinion. It's a little cowardly to express this opinion using an alias, but if that's what floats their boat...Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I've spent ALOT of time with doug over the last few days.
He smiled yesterday, learning to tele-turn up at snowbird (and going *JONG!* a few times in the process!!).
The first one I've seen out of him in a while.
I am disgusted and sickened with the 'alias' posting their thread.
However.
They do have a right to say it.
But only if he or she signs their post's up with their real name.
-Only cowards hide behind masks.
Otherwise, this person's alias, and thread, belong in the trash can.
James Henry
Since the other thread stands a chance of disappearing I'll cross post my thoughts over here:
As one who donated to the fund, I can tell you without hesitation that the details are irrelevant to me. Shmoe didn't ask for the help. My choice to give and his choice to accept that gift, in no way obligates him to disclose any information.
If anyone gave to the fund, it was a gift. That gift didn't buy any access to information or details. If you thought it did, you were mistaken.
We choose to give. He didn't ask. If he had come peddling for it, then yeah, an explanation would be in order, but he didn't.
All the questions asked by "cm" ran through my head as well because I know a few people who are toying with that lifestyle, but none of it mattered/matters in this situation, and Shmoe doesn't owe anyone on this board an explanation because we choose to help him.
If he had presented the situation as one way and then people gave and it turned out to be something different from what he had originally said, then I could see why questions might need to be asked. But that's not what happened. The giving started before we knew anything and Shmoe has been more forthcoming than I think I would have been in the same situation.
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Thanks! I'm glad someone's taken notice, finally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontele
I agree, but I don't think any of the "deletion posters" were looking for personal censorships, they were looking to protect somebody. Though at this point, that is likely a lost cause. Per my orginal post...my gripe is the fact that the questions are posed under an alias. I would think being forthcoming with your identity is the least the CM could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by 13
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Originally Posted by Z
Fair Enough.
Cheers.
My productivity has turned to shit. I have to get 3 ads out tomorrow, but all I can do is hit refresh.
This thing is almost too heated to have an opinion, but.... I'm in the Z and AC camp. I've read that post quite a few times. The matter at hand certainly sucks, but the poster doesn't appear to have a hidden agenda... unless 13 was right about them having some other type of connection to DW and shmoe. Either way, my night just got hi-jacked.