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Hillary announced she is running today...shocker.
I love Hillary and the Clintons, but I have NO faith in the US population. If she or Obama get the nod to run, there is no chance that middle america will put a woman or a non-whitey in the house. I hope the Dems realize there is no way people are ready for that...I mean, 50% voted for Bush based on religion and fear while soldiers were getting slaughetered...
Do I have too little faith in America?
No, you're just a moron.
yea... what truth said... it sounded truthy
Touche...Quote:
Originally Posted by truth
Unfortunately this is the "Truth". Middle America has decided that the Repubes are Gods party and will vote with them regardless of how bad they have fucked things up. IMO the south has too many racist and sexist people for a minority and/or woman to win the Whitehouse. Its the sad truth. I hope I'm wrong about all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by cranked
A "non-whitey?"
Yeah, I suppose you're right. I'd prolly hafta give the nod to the split-tailed cracker before the uncle tom fool-actin' darkie.
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this is going to be all types of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by cranked
It's like chumming water :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
Man, I hate religion. Fucks things up.
I think Hillary Clinton is unelectable. There's no way in fucking hell that this mostly conservative country is going to vote for the person whose husband was impeached for getting a blowjob from an employee as the first Female POTUS. No way in hell.
She might make a good Veep.
If McCain runs and Hillary gets the nod this could be a very very very bad defeat for the Democrats in 2008.
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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
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I am so dissapointed.
I was expecting her to announce she's coming out of the closet.
running for Pres? meh.
carry on.
Does a snowball have a chance in hell? Those 15 seconds sure were good while they lasted.
Aw man, the bait's done spoiled and the hook's too small.
Man, I hate people. Fucks things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by adam
If Hillary gets the nod (and I think it's 2-1 at this point), she'll be lucky to get 45% of the vote.
We're so far off course I think a woman President would be good for the country; not necessarily Hillary.. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton covering more than 20 years history. It's not right. I can understand that a truly worthy and great candidate (Warren Buffet maybe?) would never want to be President.
we should stay in iraq forever
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Originally Posted by Diz_MT
I'm certain there will be a US military base there for decades.
On another note, is a guy named Barack Hussein Obama electable in middle America? I don't think the problem is necessarily that he is black, I think Colin Powell would be very electable, the problem is his Muslim sounding name. How many people are gonna check the box next to the guy who sounds like a cross between Sadomy Hussein and Osoma Bin Laden.
Don't get me wrong I kinda like the guy, I'd prolly even vote for him. But if the dems put him or Hillary on the ballot I think we're dooming ourselves to another rebumblican.
From the responses in this thread, it's clear most of you don't have any hope or faith that Hilary could be nominated for President. Suckers like you all are the reason she's fucked in the first place. (You are right, though - the South will never vote her in). However I will definitely vote for her if she gets the nod.
BSS - pipe down, he was just trying to make a point.
Personally, I would like to see Giuliani gut her on a national stage. He missed his chance a couple of years ago. We wouldn't even be talking about her right now if he hadn't gotten cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
I wish I could link SportsGuy's 13 levels of losing. Because when Hillary runs and loses it will be historic. For pure enjoyment I'd like to see Jeb Bush vanquish Hillary. It would be a great match up of legacy politicians.
I disagree. 3 years ago I would have agreed with you, but not anymore. Sure there is a staunch republican and a hypocrite right-wing conservative base out there, but I believe the moderates that blindly fell followed them are regaining their sight. Their vision isn't 20/20 yet but I think the people are sick of how the spend happy republicans decided being in debt is a much better way to run the economy. Just look at the recent election. They were soundly bitch slapped right out of office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
Now even the republicans and hypocritcal right-wing conservatives are actually considering supporting McCain when just six years age they were calling him a war criminal and traitor.
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Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
Why wish when it is possible?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...ype=page2Story
Jeb, scary.
Ahh yes, THE SOUTH. Where the racists come from. Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
There are more racists in Boston than anywhere I've ever lived. In the South it is just a little more in the open. You know what you are getting here. Up north are the real racists. Say one thing, do another. Which is worse? I've lived in both places.
Go on down to the DMV one day, and sit for one hour. Then reflect on the fact that that would be a segment of your voting pool, were you running for president. I think you would want to shoot yourself.
99% of the population...UN-DATEABLE. Seinfeld said it best. The general public is full of WT morons. This is not exclusive to our country, either.
Hillary has a snowballs chance, Obama has no chance. The toothless majority will literally think Osama is running. He needs to change it to Smith.
McCain is already being attacked by the left, after being their republican knight in shining armour for so many years. Seems like the Dems consider him to be their biggest problem right now, wonder if the Repubs are paying attention, I sure am. I find it fucking ridiculous.
This shit is so predictable, it really does get old. The Democrats are gonna hand this one away too. When are they gonna figure out how to play the game right?
That she is a woman is the least of my concerns. I don't like that she wants to socialize medicine. I also don't like the way she talks down to people. She is not a good condidate, and the Dems should recognize.Quote:
Originally Posted by divegirl
could not have said better myslef. good job sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
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Originally Posted by Tippster
moveon.org allready started their smear campaign against McCain, the ads just started airing.
I have a feeling Hillary will do alot better than I previously would have believed. But the Dems need someone electable, I agree. And I dont think Giulianni or McCain have it either.
I didn't want to sign up for insider.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush
What's so scary about Jeb? He's absolutely kicked ass in one of the most challenging states in the union to govern.
I can't wait to watch the political expediency olympics break out. With Edwards, Kerry(hasn't announced, but is there any doubt?), and Hillary in the same primary it will be absolutely mindblowing.
a clintonesque dark horse could be Bredesen from TN.
I have no problemo with a woman in the white house, hell, Nancy probably made more wise decisions than either Bush. I just don't see Hillary as the one. I would only vote for her if she were the lesser of two bad choices, which will likely be the case. The Dems are going to hand this one to the GOP on a silver platter.
Many people are forgetting one HUGE positive that would help obama.. his stance on illegal immigration (not for it)... i sure as hell know he has won over a lot of republicans in the chicago area and immigration will most likely still be a hot topic come election time... just my .02 cents...
Add Hillary to the "unelectable" list. To polarizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
Barak could do very well riding a surging anti-incumbent wave.
W can't run. Cheney is the only one that could loosely be termed an incumbent.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson
I REALLY hope DICK doesn't settle down in JH permanantly. Or Alta, (wy)as was a summer rumor.
Gosh I didn't know that:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
what wave will he be riding if none of his adversaries are incumbents?Quote:
Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson
just, you know...asking.
Oprah's Tsunami?
slap her on the thigh and ride the wave in?Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
acccckkkk. I just made myself throw up in my mouth.
Superstar Poonami
huh, what?
You have a point. I think people will be more concerned however when they find out that he was educated in a islamic madras in Indonesia when he was young.Quote:
Originally Posted by danimal's dead
The problem with Obama/Hillary is not their sex, race or religion... it is that the policies that they would enact would ruin the economy, and would leave our nation weak. Anyone who bases their vote for president on sex race or religion is a fool.
Wow.
So now there's a woman, a non-white male with a terrorist-sounding name, and a mormon running for pres. This definitely will be a most interesting election.