Moab....thoughts, etc.

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09-07-2006, 05:55 PM
Storm11

Moab....thoughts, etc.

So I'm thinking I'm gonna head out to Moab a couple weekends from now to test out my new ride. I'm thinking Amasaback, Porcupine Rim and possibly Bartlets Wash (assuming I can find it). Any suggestions besides the obvious (i.e. slickrock, Behind the Rocks). I was also thinking about the new singletrack (I can't think of the name right now), but I'm kinda wanting some more downhill time. Any other 'lesser knowns' that might be better than Barlets or the Rim?

PS - if anyone wants to try and meet up in Moab and ride something, I'm all ears
09-07-2006, 06:15 PM
DerJaeger

Maybe kind of obvious, but how about Sovereign? That's a pretty fun ride (do as an out and back though, not a loop -- more fun that way).
09-07-2006, 06:28 PM
bagtagley

You'd be hard pressed to find anything better/funner than Porcupine in Moab. The 3 you listed are damn good choices and plenty to keep you busy.

If you're looking for more DH time, Sovereign's probably not the answer.
09-07-2006, 06:34 PM
beast

Swing by the chili pepper bikes shop - ask about dave's trail and chili pepper trail :eek: good fun
09-07-2006, 07:06 PM
bagtagley

Quote:

Originally Posted by beast

Swing by the chili pepper bikes shop - ask about dave's trail and chili pepper trail :eek: good fun

Oooh, forgot about those. Gotta hit those up in the coming weeks. You got any trips planned?
09-07-2006, 07:06 PM
DerJaeger

D'oh. My bad - I somehow missed the "more DH time" part. Yes, that definitely rules out Sovereign.

Porc Rim and Amassa Back would be my votes (although I haven't tried the ones Beast mentioned... I'm intruiged).
09-07-2006, 07:47 PM
lph

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagtagley

Oooh, forgot about those. Gotta hit those up in the coming weeks. You got any trips planned?

Forgot, huh? i think you been holding out on us! ;)

what are they like?
09-07-2006, 08:01 PM
bagtagley

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

Forgot, huh? i think you been holding out on us! ;)

what are they like?

Hold out? Moi?

Actually, I've never ridden them. I only know of them from beasts's Moab TR this spring.
09-07-2006, 08:03 PM
Big Blue

Dude, call me up. I live in Moab and am definitely looking to ride. PM me for my number.
09-07-2006, 08:05 PM
flowtron

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

Forgot, huh? i think you been holding out on us! ;)

what are they like?

Daves is a short, fun little bit (about 3 minutes worth) of flow from the ridge w/antennas thats between the Lions Back flats (think cattleguard and big gravel lot on the left on Sand Flats Rd across from landfill entrance when going up to Slickrock) down to town.
Chili Pepper goes from Hells Revenge (Slickrock trail-ish) down to where else? Longer, but it takes a bit more to access it. Fun, short locals trails.
09-07-2006, 08:51 PM
lph

wow, flow, given where they are located they must be REALLY short?!?!

oh, and Bags, i am glad to hear you weren't holding out on us Cali folk. I just KNEW it couldn't be true. ;)
09-08-2006, 01:27 AM
Ski Monkey

Per usual, yentna and i are planning on a couple fall trips to moab. She has the dates and is drunk in tahoe at the moment so I can't tell you when that is. I'm sure she'll be checking in though.
09-08-2006, 08:46 AM
flowtron

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

wow, flow, given where they are located they must be REALLY short?!?!

oh, and Bags, i am glad to hear you weren't holding out on us Cali folk. I just KNEW it couldn't be true. ;)

The Chili trail actually makes for an ok loop from town or evening shuttle since you have to ride out Slickrock a mile or two. I used to ride Daves alot because I lived right near the bottom and would climb the DH bike up the road to do a lap or two on the Practice Loop, then hit Daves on the way back to town. Good afterwork ride. We had weekly local races down Daves for while until somebody went 15ft to face in parking lot. That put the kibash on that event.
09-08-2006, 10:31 AM
rideit

Ahh, just drop into Negro Bill's from slickrock.

Better have your rebound dialed!
09-08-2006, 10:43 AM
flowtron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm11

So I'm thinking I'm gonna head out to Moab a couple weekends from now to test out my new ride. I'm thinking Amasaback, Porcupine Rim and possibly Bartlets Wash (assuming I can find it). Any suggestions besides the obvious (i.e. slickrock, Behind the Rocks). I was also thinking about the new singletrack (I can't think of the name right now), but I'm kinda wanting some more downhill time. Any other 'lesser knowns' that might be better than Barlets or the Rim?

PS - if anyone wants to try and meet up in Moab and ride something, I'm all ears

As far as other stuff to ride goes, you should def. check out the Amasa Back singletrack/Rockstacker for a little variation. Also the upper Porc Rim trails....ask in the shops to see if Hazard County is legit yet.
09-08-2006, 11:03 AM
brettf

Hazard County is now legit. Rockstacker is the poop.

Trying to get out there for a social weekend with a ton of folks and then sneak away for a couple of more interesting rides the weekend of Oct 20th if anyone is interested.

Edit: Hazard v2.0 is much different than before... no mandatory airs over barbed wire fences...
09-08-2006, 11:09 AM
bagtagley

Is Rockstacker the singletrack that veers off Amasa Back at the pipeline?
09-08-2006, 11:18 AM
brettf

No - that's Jackson's Trail. Amasa - Rockstacker - Jacksons makes a great loop.
09-08-2006, 12:40 PM
rotorhead

This thread makes me want to get super tent cleaned up and put a spare rear derailer in my camelback.
09-08-2006, 03:06 PM
flowtron

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettf

Edit: Hazard v2.0 is much different than before... no mandatory airs over barbed wire fences...

I'll always miss v1.0. The jump out of the woods over the rock before the fence jump was my favorite. The fence jump was always interesting.

I am stoked theres a legit route up there now though.
09-08-2006, 04:34 PM
bagtagley

Anybody wanna tell me about Rockstacker, or is "no, you're wrong" all I'm gonna get? :D

I thought Jackson's trail went into Jackson Hole. The trail I was referring to goes in the opposite direction towards the road and to the creek below the parking lot.
09-08-2006, 04:40 PM
lph

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagtagley

Anybody wanna tell me about Rockstacker, or is "no, you're wrong" all I'm gonna get? :D

I thought Jackson's trail went into Jackson Hole. The trail I was referring to goes in the opposite direction towards the road and to the creek below the parking lot.

isn't that the singletrack that is only good to go after the water levels in the streams go down? have heard about it, sounds pretty technical.

isn't jackson's some sort of hike a bike? that goes down that cliff from into the valley?

also, pumped that hazard is good to go. is that the same ride as the 'whole enchilda'?
09-08-2006, 07:10 PM
Ski Monkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

also, pumped that hazard is good to go. is that the same ride as the 'whole enchilda'?

I think hazard is the start of the whole enchilada followed by kokopelli, ups, lps and porcupine.
09-08-2006, 10:04 PM
lph

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski Monkey

I think hazard is the start of the whole enchilada followed by kokopelli, ups, lps and porcupine.

yeah that is what i meant though didn't express it properly.

where is the shuttle drop off. someone told me it was the same as for UPS but then you had to pedal/climb to ride hazard, is that true?
09-08-2006, 10:42 PM
altasnob

www.utahmountainbiking.com has a decent section on moab.

Sack up and try to ride the entire Portal Trail without stepping off:

http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/trails/poisonsp.htm

http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/tr...s/b-pois05.jpg
09-08-2006, 11:00 PM
beast

ah - hazard county. I felt privileged to ride that about 5 years ago - too bad that now it's gonna pale in comparison to the original.
09-08-2006, 11:11 PM
Big Blue

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

yeah that is what i meant though didn't express it properly.

where is the shuttle drop off. someone told me it was the same as for UPS but then you had to pedal/climb to ride hazard, is that true?

I don't know exactly how to link it all together, but you can actually start at the top of burro pass in the la sals (elev. 11,000 ft or so) and ride all the way down to the bottom of porc (about 4,000 ft). If anyone knows how to do this and wants to show me or wants to come with me to try to figure it out I'd love to give it a go.
09-09-2006, 09:36 AM
flowtron

Quote:

Originally Posted by lph

yeah that is what i meant though didn't express it properly.

where is the shuttle drop off. someone told me it was the same as for UPS but then you had to pedal/climb to ride hazard, is that true?

Technically, the Whole Enchilada starts with Burro Pass. You drive up to the top of Geyser Pass, then ride around on the backside of the La Sals briefly and climb up and over Burro, which drops you into Hazard (with a little climbng)and so on.

Bags, Rockstacker is singletrack on the river side of Amasa Back above the original AB singltrack or "Jacksons Trail". You get on it by riding out towards Pothole Arch towards the top of Amasa Back.

The way I understand it, Jackson was some rancher dude who would bring his cattle up and over AB from town/Kane Creek rd to his "hole". The singletrack and the hike a bike is his route. Some people call the hike Jacobs Ladder, some call it Jacksons Ladder. When the rideable singletrack was officially recognized they called it Jackson's Trail.

The Amasa Back route that we ride up was originally built just to service the pipeline and the power wires that roughly follow Jacksons old route.

Edit: You can drive to the top of Hazard, I believe its Walker Lake Road. They built a parking lot there now.
09-11-2006, 05:55 PM
HobieTony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Blue

I don't know exactly how to link it all together, but you can actually start at the top of burro pass in the la sals (elev. 11,000 ft or so) and ride all the way down to the bottom of porc (about 4,000 ft). If anyone knows how to do this and wants to show me or wants to come with me to try to figure it out I'd love to give it a go.

That is one of the ones on my list when I get there in a week... I may have a (friend of a friend) guide, but I wouldn't mind just figgerin' it out...
09-11-2006, 06:07 PM
nesta

I haven't been to Moab in quite a few years, but another one in addition to some of the ones mentioned would be the Gold Bar rim connecting to the Portal on the Poison Spider Mesa trail to finish at Potash Rd. We shuttled a vehicle to the start of Gold Bar Rim ( Gemini Bridges parking lot???)
09-12-2006, 12:39 AM
brettf

Quote:

Originally Posted by flowtron

You can drive to the top of Hazard, I believe its Walker Lake Road. They built a parking lot there now.

I think it is Warner Lake Road that comes off of Lasall Mtn Road to Hazard's start. Here is some info on Hazard v2.0: MTBR Post...

Bags, PM sent...

Edit: link contains some interesting info on the legality of the trails there for those who are... uhh, interested.