Naxo users, step right up and get your Torsional stiffeners...

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03-16-2006, 09:52 PM
XtrPickels

Naxo users, step right up and get your Torsional stiffeners...

I was talking with my engineer roommate, who has the ability to machine aluminum where he works, about making torsional stiffeners for the NX01's.

He thinks he can make a huge difference, we'll try it with mine first, but the offer is being extended to mags as well.

Cost will be around $30 (just planning, haven't gotten materials or set up the CNC) Getting a feeler for who might be interested.

The piece will either be along the lines of Lou Dawson's
OR
we might make a U frame or a box to go around the bars. This ought to be a stronger design (which nx21 users could use). It'll be about the same amount of aluminum, just in a different shape, so the same weight as the insert from Lou's idea.

whaddaya think? (we'd also need to know which bindings and your bootsole length)

http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-...-017-flex.html

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/nax...que-plate.html
03-16-2006, 10:29 PM
soul_skier

hell yes, sign me up
i'll send bootsole length stuff later
Edited for bootsole length, 317 for now, but may change later
03-16-2006, 10:35 PM
altasnob

I think allot of the flex of the Naxo is due to the roomy fit of the aluminum shaft into the plastic heal-lock part (i.e. the hotdog in the hallway effect). But I'm sure the modifications couldn't hurt.
03-16-2006, 10:41 PM
BLOODSWEATSTEEL

I'm in. ---315mm
03-16-2006, 10:57 PM
summit

$30? yeeash
03-16-2006, 10:59 PM
XtrPickels

Quote:

Originally Posted by altasnob

I think allot of the flex of the Naxo is due to the roomy fit of the aluminum shaft into the plastic heal-lock part (i.e. the hotdog in the hallway effect). But I'm sure the modifications couldn't hurt.

There's a fix for this on Lou's site as well, but we aren't going to manufacture 1 sided sillicon tape ;)

Summit, not sure what the actual price is going to be, I told him to throw out a number and he said it wouldnt be over $30. I don't want to tell you guys $15 then have to up it.
03-17-2006, 12:13 AM
FiveLarge

I'm interested, if they seem to work well for you. Medium binding, 320 boot sole on the boot I usually use with 'em, but as someone else mentioned, could change...
03-17-2006, 01:56 AM
summit

understood!
if $15 i would do. using two boots i think my shortest length is 296
03-17-2006, 03:29 AM
ulty_guy

i love this place.
03-17-2006, 10:12 AM
Magoo

Any idea how much this would beef up the nx21? Looks like it did a significant job for the nx01 (close to 50% stiffer), but I'm wondering if you'd see the same improvement on the nx21? If it did, then it'd be even better than the Dynafit (which was the stiffest tested).
03-17-2006, 10:28 AM
crashnburn'd

$30 isn't bad, but it sounds like you're friend is making it way to complicated if he's using CNC. You can buy really long lengths of 1" x 1/4" aluminum bar, run a router down the sides and cut it to the lengths you need. Or just use a manual mill, I bet you could make two stiffeners in 5-10 minutes.
03-17-2006, 10:49 AM
dirtybryan

Once you get the bar in there, what about welding it in place? Err, maybe a bad idea since the surrounding areas are plastic.
03-17-2006, 10:55 AM
72Twenty

wow. my old Naxo's are going places. all grown up. (sniff).

:D
03-17-2006, 10:56 AM
crashnburn'd

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtybryan

Once you get the bar in there, what about welding it in place? Err, maybe a bad idea since the surrounding areas are plastic.

I think the idea is to get it tight fitting enough that you wouldn't need anything. Welding really isn't an option, epoxy would be though.
03-17-2006, 11:15 AM
Son1cdeth

I'd be interested too.

NX01 (Second year).

bootsole to come later
03-17-2006, 12:09 PM
telechuck

Interested. Let me know how it goes. Bootsole is 300.
03-17-2006, 04:49 PM
XtrPickels

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72Twenty

wow. my old Naxo's are going places. all grown up. (sniff).

:D

Your old naxo's got mad at me and cracked their AFD:rolleyes2
conundrum came through though.
03-18-2006, 02:06 AM
weibo

I'd be in as well. 307 bootsole (I think). Let us know and thanks.
03-18-2006, 07:27 AM
skifishbum

Count me in for a nx21 stiffiner.
03-22-2006, 11:54 PM
FiveLarge

bump...any update?
03-23-2006, 11:28 AM
PNWbrit

Interested

varying boots sizes?

Wouldn't bar just need to be sized to binding size - small, medium and large? if not just shortest boot likely to be used?
03-23-2006, 12:32 PM
bc

Count me in for my NX01's (edit later for size/boot sole)
Maybe also for my NX21's...
03-23-2006, 01:29 PM
snorkeldeep

www.emachineshop.com
03-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Trackhead

Dynafit=lighter, stiffer, no mod needed. Something to consider.
03-23-2006, 06:14 PM
XtrPickels

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Interested

varying boots sizes?

Wouldn't bar just need to be sized to binding size - small, medium and large? if not just shortest boot likely to be used?

Basically, but the longer the bar the more rigid. So if no one is skiing a 286 bootsole, we won't cut those.

No updates, I've been using the Naxo's and he wants to take them to work to get measurements.
04-06-2006, 09:36 PM
FiveLarge

bump again...been a couple of weeks...any update?

I looked at emachineshop.com a little...if there's someone out there insterested in this with a little CAD experience, can figure out pretty quickly what the cost would be through them...
04-09-2006, 05:50 PM
upallnight

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtrPickels

Basically, but the longer the bar the more rigid. So if no one is skiing a 286 bootsole, we won't cut those.

No updates, I've been using the Naxo's and he wants to take them to work to get measurements.

My fiancee might want a pair (@285 boot sole...maybe 15mm shorter as she may switch boots)...depending on how the results are.
04-09-2006, 08:07 PM
wicked_sick

Quote:

Originally Posted by spthomson

bump again...been a couple of weeks...any update?

I looked at emachineshop.com a little...if there's someone out there insterested in this with a little CAD experience, can figure out pretty quickly what the cost would be through them...

I've got CAD/CNC experience, and I think for something as simple as this there is no need to go somewhere like emachineshop. It can easily be done by hand as it was at that link. Aluminum bar stock is relatively cheap, too.

Though if you were to do it with a CNC mill it would take all of 10 minutes to mill out.
04-09-2006, 08:24 PM
XtrPickels

i wish i had updates, but he hasn't taken my skis in yet. I'll start pestering him to get on it.
10-20-2006, 04:09 PM
BLOOD SWEAT STEEL

Bizzzzzzzzzzump. Tell him to get off his ass already. :)
10-20-2006, 05:28 PM
XtrPickels

Yeah, He dropped the ball and I got sick of my 01's so I sold them. Means he doesn't have anything to work with.
Should probably just let this thread diieeeee.
10-20-2006, 05:35 PM
davep

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtrPickels

Yeah, He dropped the ball and I got sick of my 01's so I sold them. Means he doesn't have anything to work with.
Should probably just let this thread diieeeee.

Heh, I made myself a pair of the alu stiffeners a la dobson to go in your (my) naxos, xtrpickels. Seem to work well based on a hand flexing. still waiting on the replacement afd from bca...

The only thing I'm hating about the setup is that I can't lift the tails off the ground... otherwise, the bros were a blast!
10-20-2006, 11:44 PM
summit

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLOOD SWEAT STEEL

Bizzzzzzzzzzump. Tell him to get off his ass already. :)

hah i was thinking about bumping this thread today but you beat me to it...

someone got the toolz?