Hey all
I’ve gone through a bunch of touring boots…current technical scouts. Seems every boot becomes in flexible, just f’ing rigid when locked into ski mode. Is there a boot that actually skis like an RS 130 when locked out?
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Hey all
I’ve gone through a bunch of touring boots…current technical scouts. Seems every boot becomes in flexible, just f’ing rigid when locked into ski mode. Is there a boot that actually skis like an RS 130 when locked out?
Have you tried the Scarpa 4-Quattro Pro? I find their flex easy to engage, and it ramps up quickly. Kind of like what I experience with the Technica Firebird R but [much] less damp. I used to tour with the Lange XT3 Pro, and found their flex much more “on/off”—a bit more difficult to engage, and then more likely to bottom out. I skied both the Lange and Scarpa with a GFT liner.
Cool. I’ve got the gft’s in my scouts.
Hoji free 130 has to be close. Skis as well as my lupo 130 ti c. Nice to set in the flex and ive never blown thru the travel. Great deals out there if you can find your size
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Doesn't exist. Doesn't matter how fancy the walk mode is, lightweight thin plastic and carbon is just never going to flex like a proper alpine boot.
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Nordica strider, barely qualifies as a touring boot but they ski pretty great. Used a pair as my full time alpine boot for a while. If you want something that walks well the quattro is as close as i’ve found
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No. Quattro Pros have a firm but accessible flex unlike any touring boot I’ve tried, and are everything I could want for lapping steep powder lines in the backcountry, but there’s still a huge gap in performance compared to “real” ski boots.
This is where cabrio touring boots shine, the Lupo one thirty c has nearly the same performance as a Krypton one thirty.
Maybe look at a Roxa R three one thirty. They don’t ski like a touring boot but aren’t heavy like the Lupo
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Anything with BOA. It solves all problems....
J/K. If you find it, lemme know. I just ski the ZGTPs with Zips and it's pretty good. I don't really ski firm snow though..
I thought the XT3 was pretty good.
It is fair to say my Technica Cochise and my Rossignol alpine boot ski very differently.
newer hawx are made from same material as resort boot (PU) so I'd assume they have a very similar flex profile. You can also add a 'gnar bar' which replaces the walk mechanism to lock it in place.
I've got the cochise with some zipfit garas and a booster strap. It skis pretty close to an actual alpine boot.
I have the same setup, and agree it skis well, but when I stick the ZipFits into a pair of Mach1 130s, there is a noticeable difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by chedman
Oh definitely agree with you there, I havent tried the mach1 yet but for my style I don't think I would need a true stiff alpine boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeeze
I’m really loving how the Ridge skis. Have an intuition fx race in them. Once you figure out how to get them tight they ski so well.
For reference I ski a mach[emoji637] concept with powerwrap in resort.
Right, but he's asking for a touring boot that skis like an RS 130. Neither of those boots do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Oh I was just reading the thread title, touring boots that flex like real ski boots. So you can fuck off waxman.
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The biggest issue I see with trying to make a touring boot ski like an alpine boot is the weight, and the second is the walk lever. Even though most 50/50 boots are going away from superlight plastics, there are still weight saving measures in place.As for the walk lever, even something like the Tecnica T-ride or the Atomic FreeLock is still going to have play when compared to a bolt going straight through the back of both cuffs. In blisters review of the Atomic Gnar Bar, they even say that that is not a replacement for a dedicated fixed cuff boot. Long story short, you will always have a compromise in a touring boot.
I also think the XT3 is pretty good boot. No complaints other than the walk mode lever sucks. They do good inbounds and touring. For straight up inbounds it's going to be the old RS 130 plug. There is really no middle ground.
I have a xt3 120 25.5 if anyone is hunting PM
Ive been real happy w/ my Fischer TransAlp inbounds.
The hoji lock is really solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by skivt27
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Have the Cochise 130 with the T Drive spine and a Intuition Pro wrap in it and use it as my only inbound boot There really isn't much play at all in the walk mode link at all, but what I have noticed is the rivets have a fair amount of side to side play. I guess the effort to make the upper cuff move more freely w less resistance makes this part less solid than I would like. Other than that the boot skis great, but I haven't been in a Mach 1 or full alpine boot in a long time so maybe I'm missing outQuote:
Originally Posted by skivt27
Check to see if the cuff pivots are ovalized. Mine were and they replaced via warranty (I’ve had great experiences with Tecnica warranty). Took about 30 days of skiing to introduce a decent amount of slop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman
I’m happy enough with my Aromic Hawx Prime XTD with intuition pro wraps. Skis great inbounds and out. Not the best boot out there on the uphills, but light enough with the intuitions and tours fine
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Use a Lupo carbon/factory grilamid lower with a krypton PU cuff. Remove tongue for good forward ROM. No walkmode to introduce any play or break. PU cuff provides alpine boot ski quality. At least that’s my solution to this problem.
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Dynafit tigard, except you’re foot has to be as tall as it is wide for it to fit
Yeah what a weird fitting boot that is.Quote:
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Moron question time. How could you see if they were ovalized? They have fat black tape like smooth cover over the rivets on the inside of the boots, what did you do to actually see if the rivets were oval? And how easy was it to change the rivets?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeeze
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You will be able to rock the upper relative to the lower.
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This.Quote:
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They should be easy to replace. That said, I couldn’t find a single shop in Jackson or AK that felt confident doing it…
Most are not actually ovalized plastic, but the press rivets themselves having loosened.
Head raptor threaded cuff hardware apparently fits if they’re not too far gone.
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Yeah. That's what I have now. It's fairly mild and with the ProWrap in almost not noticeable,but with the liner out there is definitely play there.
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