Did I just miss them? One of you has to have gotten a pair. Any reviews out there not on the WNDR website?
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Did I just miss them? One of you has to have gotten a pair. Any reviews out there not on the WNDR website?
I’m super interested to see some reviews on their CCR versions for sure
Great to see a reverse camber option. Rare this days when everyone think they need camber.
No reviews, but...
Introducing WNDR Alpine
Bump.
Anyone getting out on these skis this year? I'm really curious about the Intention 110 as a dedicated CO ski.
Lots of people have them here. Sounds like the 110 with camber is universally loved. Many of them are coming from Hojis. The full rocker is hit and miss. Small balance point that some people can’t seem to find. Classic full rocker I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
We've got a review of the Vital 100 coming ASAP...stay tuned! And hopefully a review by women of the Intention 110 by mid-March. We have one tester on the cambered Intention 110s in VT and NH.... he's a big fan after 2 months of slogging around the Green Mountains and White Mountains.
Posted a review with pics:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...-100-2020-2021
Not to state the obvious but.... https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-intention-110
Any folks been on the Vital 100?
got some blems but haven't mounted em up yet. plan to get some laps on them this upcoming weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar
Nice, mounting them up with at or alpine binders?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey
I got the 110s this season and I love em.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
I haven't skied either version of the Hoji but compared to my Ravens they have a much larger balance point.
We got a couple feet of snow last weekend and they were awesome. Great float and super easy to shutdown even in snow up to my knees.
Edit: I'm on the first year 110s with reverse camber in 185 cm for anyone wondering
Here's a pic of the new Vital 100s next to their cousin the 4frnt Raven, clamped on the line for your pleasure.
Slight less tip splay, slightly more tail splay. The mount point is 84.5 from tail @ 183 vs 86 @ 184 with the Raven.
Gonna get out on them next week.
Anybody skied the Reason?
Not yet, but both the full rocker vital and intention are great, so I’m expecting great things for the Reason
Have four tours on the Vitals now and I like them more than the ravens in hard/variable snow, but less in soft snow. Overall, I was looking for better hard/variable performance so I'm happy.
Mount point makes them ski a bit more traditional than the ravens and the tighter tips take away some of the flapping in the breeze that would happen on the Ravens on the firmer days.
Looking forward to seeing how they handle the early morning volcano spring skin conditions coming very soon as it looks like winter is officially over in the PNW.
I'm assuming you are on the reverse camber Vitals? Anything else in your quiver to offset it? I've been torn between a Raven and Vital to pair with a Majesty Superwolf for Colorado skiingQuote:
Originally Posted by tdpdx
For other touring skis I still have the Ravens and also WNDR Intention 110, and yes I got the rev camber vitals.
For other skis I have... a lot.
Sold my Black Crow Corvus Freebird and replaced them with a rockered Intention 110's. Been touring on them about 10 days so far in the PNW and Whistler. I was looking for something more maneuverable and these skis excel at that. I mounted them with tectons and use them as a travel ski for Whistler. Although I wouldn't grab these for a dedicated inbound ski, they weirdly carve groomers incredibly well for a 110.
Skied the 190 Vital 90 and 192 Intention 110 camber for a few runs at the demo day at Alta last saturday. Not great conditions generally speaking. Didn't really jive with the vital 90, kind of felt a bit hooky, couldn't get it to really carve like I'd want a 190 90 underfoot ski to (current daily narrow ski is Kastle FX95 195). The Intention 110 was awesome. I really enjoyed this ski, its quite light and would love to try this out on a pow day at alta to get a really good understanding of how the light weight would preform in chop etc.
I have a friend who works over there, might try to get my hands on a set of Intention 110's and do a CAST or shift setup for a versatile setup in the future.
I was also at the Alta demo, only got to try the camber Vital 100 in 183 since the reverse skis were all gone every time I went by. I have the exact same feedback as Phall, it was a sticky spring day where reverse camber really shines so it felt great to get back on my reverse Volkls after I returned the Wndrs. The shape was meh but the construction seemed solid, very damp feel for a light-ish ski
is the Vital 90 a prototype?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
I think he means Vital 100. They are working on a 90 but didn't have any prototypes there (at least that I saw)Quote:
Originally Posted by f=ma
I believe it was the 100, but im easily confused.
A vital 90 (say 1700 ish grams) reverse camber would be unique and hard to resist
WNDR released their new Intention 108 today. Here. Looks like they changed up the lengths to 6cm increases, with a 182, 188 and 194 in TGR sizes. Other changes are a slightly stiffer flex profile, longer turn radius, small weight decrease, and a new binding plate that they claim has similar retention strength to inserts.
Anyone got any time on the new reverse camber 188 version? Going to need a new daily driver touring ski next season and the old 110 185cm reverse camber was on my short list.
I think this new Intention 108 looks like a nice contender for a DD touring ski. The 110s would come in through our shop but felt too soft IMO.
What does Blister have to say? https://blisterreview.com/flash-revi...-intention-108
Bump, anyone tried a reverse camber 108? Consolidating the skinnier side of the backcountry quiver to a single ski. 187 Protest is my mid winter pow ski, looking for something else to fill the all other days/spring category. Or would you go Vital reverse camber? Tahoe/Sierra snowpack mostly, some Wasatch and Teton trips.
I was on a 192 108 RC for a couple years and liked the shape and construction but they were too light for a daily driver in wet snow, seemed to deflect more than I’m used to. I got along much better with the old Dynafit Chugach with metal layup and have since moved back ON3P BG110Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar
For backcountry use? And I thought the 108 was “new” for this season, essentially an updated 110.Quote:
Originally Posted by benk
Not a ski but I own and have around now 3 months time on WNDR's splitboard, the Belle Tour. I like it but don't love it, the touring brackets are placed pretty far back on the split skis which makes it very nose heavy, especially annoying when doing kick turns in soft snow as you have to really exaggerate the hip lift and kick to keep the tips from burying. Also the split halves are already now not meshing together as well as new after just 3 months. The pluses are it has good uphill grip and drive and rides in soft/deep snow much better than one would expect given the shorter overall length. I've decided to relegate it to my powder/trees/low angle board as it excels in that but isn't super great/stable on steeper/higher speed stuff. Durability seems very good so far.
Sorry, it was the 2020 model, 110 Intention RCQuote:
Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar
All good, Blister seems to think they’d ski very similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by benk
Any other Vital 100 Reverse Camber reviews in the TGR world? Juggling between it and the Raven and leaning towards the Vital.
I’ve been skiing the Intention 108 188cm reverse camber for the past ten days or so and I’ve been really impressed so far. It’s light enough for long tours, yet skis like a real ski. Damp, playful and energetic are words that come to mind. I’ve mainly been skiing it in powder 30-50cm ski penetration and in variable terrain from glades to open alpine and a bit of pillow popping. I enjoy it’s agility in tight spaces and also it’s stability under speed. I am pretty sure I’ll spend the majority of my season on these skis.
I skied a number of seasons on the Intention 110 191cm and 185 cm reverse cambers and really enjoyed them too. However I feel the 108 may be my new favourite. I’ve only skied on piste for one run, but it rode well, held an edge nicely and liked super g turns.
I’ve been skiing the Vital 100 190cm for low ski pen days and the 183cm camber for firm spring conditions and traverses. They are both fast turning carving mobiles.
Awesome, thanks for the input.
Intrigued by the new Nocturn 88... looks cambered only, free-mo ski, 117-88-108, 1500 gr in 178 cm and all wood, wish that longer radius than 19m tho. Thats legit longer day bc light
Had a pair of the shorty Nocturn (I think they were even shorter than the 166cm size on the website) come through my shop towards the end of the season. They came out to around 1550g with ATK world cup bindings on them, but they were a prototype build according to the customer.
The build quality looked great and I have been meaning to ask the customer how her trip with them went. They were worried that the ski was too heavy for the intended purpose. It is basically a phat skimo design, but with a full wood build and no carbon. I'm not convinced they will sell many of these, but for the skier who hates how carbon skis feel but wants something reasonably lighter for long missions this will fill a hole in the quiver.
I think they make a reverse version of the Nocturn 88, I saw one of their athletes using it this spring. I am happy because as far as I know it is the lightest reverse camber ski you can buy new right now and get delivered, but I don't see any reason to own a 1500g 88mm wide ski. There are a lot of wider skis at the same weight available that ski very very well in all snow conditions.
I am with you on that. It really needed to come in closer to 1250g at that waist width imo. The 1500g category is loaded with good skis right now and an 88mm ski just doesn't fill a need for most who are looking in that range. You can buy a Zero G 105 for the same price at that weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10