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Prefer smith due to prescription insert. Cant see shit, have to throw out hands to get perception. Cant tell if i am floating on air or snow. Yes i could always ski side of trail but somehow it doesnt work that way.
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Smith Prophecy Lens: Blue Sensor Mirror not working
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Seriously, have you had an eye exam recently to rule out problems such as cataracts?
Unless you've got a medically repairable eye pathology e.g. cataracts , you're hosed. At 66 my storm chasing days are far behind me - flat light is un-skiable, shadows to be avoided if at all possible. There is no technology (yet) that will give you back your youthful, low light eyesight. Sounds cruel and inhumane, but there's still plenty of good skiing to be had - just on sunny days.
double ply clear lens. /thread
Develop your braille skiing. I have always loved storm skiing, and have found that developing the ability to ski based on what you foot and legs feel is of great help.
P.S. works great when you can see also.
Yellow or Rose lens work for me at 57. What also helps a lot is a really wide field of view (i.e. if you can see the frame, you need bigger googles). Smith's fan gizmo for venting also helps.
Julbo makes some light sensitive lens that are pretty nice and the optical quality seems better than most to me.
I switch between the Smith with the fan and Julbo's with the lens that pops open for venting. Skiing in the trees also helps a lot.
There are many lenses that claim to improve contrast in flat light. The reason there are so many is that none of them work.
Gotta have different goggles lenses to switch out or multiple sets, one for full Sun and other for flat light. Slow down, feel moar is what she said.
Will also second bbense on the Julbo shades, the Sniper is sweet for skin track oar high output XC.
What about in the trees? I definitely have vertigo in blizzards on the wide open bowls (is that an age thing?), but trees are okay for me. As long as I don't get too close...Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
I prefer the big-frame goggles like the VZ FishBowl. I am pretty sure most companies make something similar and probably with some new style of lens changing...clips, magnets. Plain rose tint is as light as I'll use, and forget about yellow unless you want to carry a darker lens. I have grown used to wearing the blackout lens with 6%vlt almost all days. They help reduce the noticing of floaters in my eyes.
Sick deals on Von Zipper....amazon search "veezee"
Sure, variable light conditions i.e. in tree shadows, will help ...... if. your eyes still work!! If they don't (sooner or later this will begin, usually between 55 and 65) there's absolutely nothing you can do by fussing with the incoming light if your eyes are weak and significantly compromised with age. If the cyborg overlords offered bionic eyes in exchange for eternal servitude, I'd be first in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDaddy
Thanks, approaching the big 6-0 soon... but fortunately, eyes are still pretty good. I see a lot of eyeware at family gatherings tho, so I think you're right, only a matter of time.
If they offer dental, I am in.Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
Dear OP,
Thanks for this thread. I thought my goggle game needed some low-light rose colored lenses. Due to low snow and not wanting to get sunburnt, a goggle geek-out took place today. I found a couple forgotten about roses and realized my dark, black lenses were suffering. Anyway, your thread lead to a futureproofing of my current system and a dabble into the new tech...like 75% off some consumerism goodness...3 frames and 4 lenses for less than one full price pair!
Sinseriously,
Perm
Smith yellow sensor mirror. Best low light lens I've come across.
If there's anything other than white anywhere to be seen keep your head up and focused on the dark, rather than staring at the snow in front of you.
Try and follow someone (particularly useful when skiing along the cat track at the top of Granite Chief with all the wind lips.
What makes flat light hard with age isn't just vision but also loss of balance, loss of proprioception (the sense of where your limbs are and what they're doing) and the strength and reflexes to absorb terrain with no warning.
Oakley's Hi Pink lens does a good job in low light..however Smith's goggles with changeable lenses are the way to go...particularly the goggles with room for any prescription lenses...
Truth, especially about it being more than just the eyes. Following someone has it's hazards however - I ran over the poor guy I was following because I couldn't tell how close he was/when he stopped. He "complimented" me on my mad skilz.Quote:
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Well that explains the slow speed double eject face plant into an unseen by me hole. A kid skied up and asked if I was OK. Told him I was just testing the binding heel release on my Dynafits.Quote:
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Those are big ones. Local knowledge helps a lot. ProP, there's a pill for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Permnation, please elaborate with details on choices and purchasing cheap.
Anyone try Chromapop? Does it work?
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Originally Posted by permnation
Amazon does a lot of the work for me. Here's a few examples, the 3rd pair was $52 and change yesterday...$200 retail, 2 lenses.
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I went off yesterday and purchased 2 fishbowl and a jetpack, 3 frames and 4 lenses, futureproof!
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Does Chromapop keep your retinas from scaring in bright reflected light - sure just like any other proven lens technology (not noticing any better contrast and color definition). Do they miraculously return your unavoidably deteriorating eye sight to when you were 30? Absolutely not.Quote:
Originally Posted by oftpiste
IME chromopop is no better than other lenses--I have the everydays and storms. The everydays do allow you to see the dark chemtrails IN FRONT of the planes laying down chemtrails behind them, so there's that (and some other interesting optical illusions).
For any lens to work there has to be some contrast to accentuate. In true white out conditions there is none. There's a reason they scatter pine needles on race courses. I was skiing in Wolverine Bowl at Alpine a couple years ago in flat light--a patroller took it upon himself to scatter pine needles along the groomer.
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Originally Posted by old goat
Until Google releases their augmented-reality radar, terrain mapping goggles [Goggles by Google (tm)] I'll keep using a nearly clear green lens [80-90%VLT] and a dark 20% VLT. But I spend most of the time in the green. Until it's really quite bright [mostly sunny] I stay in the very high VLT lens. While I'm a quite a ways short of 60, my eyes have really taken a beating the last year or two.
Finally, as for cheap goggles - try Outdoor Master Pro on Amazon. (They appear to be Anon knock-offs.) I've been using them the last couple of years. Magnetic lenses I really quite like. Pricing is less attractive now, but when I went that route, I got two complete frames and lenses [light and dark] for ~ $50. IMO, there's no "magic" around any lens formula or color - so no need to chase unicorns and pay big bucks for a brand, if the fit and quality is reasonable.
Good to know. I'll stick with my Blue Sensor Mirrors for now.
I got chromapop everyday and storm. They work all right. In full sun the everyday get a bit overwhelmed. The storm are all right but not as good as old Oakley amplification ones. I need the fan though so it’s Smith. Plus they replaced my last two pair under warranty when foam collapsed. So the low light yellow amplifier Oakley were best I ever used.
Yellow sensor is quite a step up over the blue for flat light storm skiing.Quote:
Originally Posted by oftpiste
I tried looking though yellow sensor vs. blue sensor and the difference to me wasn’t worth paying for one over the other. Also didn’t seem worth having both. If you already have one, then go ski.
Said it before, I'll say it again. Clear fucking lens.
There is no substitute in flat light.